Who cares the villains? It will be man spider 3 again.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
1.are you next going to tell me that you believe Bob Kane's B.S that he really thought Batman and Robin was the best Batman movie? if so,the logic of the man-spider fans is really getting to you and you been hanging around with them too much. 😄

Will you stop comparing Stan Lee to Bob Kane. They are two completely DIFFERENT people.

Don't taint Stan with Bob Kane's brush.

2.Of course ONLY Stan knows.Thats my point all along,you got to take in what Stan says about liking them with a grain of salt,can you post me a link where he ever blasted another bad marvel comicbook movie such as The Hulk? If you can show me one of those,I might be able to take him seriously but I dont think he has ever publicly bad mouthed a marvel comicbook movie.

Why would Stan blast the Hulk??

And I'll say again, Stan is not a dirty sell out. He's not that shallow that he'll say a compete BS interpretation of his character is good.

3.see above post.

I did. It's BS.

4.again see post number 2.

Also BS.

5.I just know that you got to take in what he says with a grain of salt after learning Bob Kane said Batman and Robin was the best batman movie and that before each Batman movie was released,he said it was better than the previous ones and that continued as well with Batman and Robin.That would be just plain ignorant for anybody to believe that Bob Kane was REALLY being honest with his thoughts on what he said about Batman and Robin.

Will you stop comparing Stan to Bob Kane.

Jesus Christ, they are two different people. Are you trying to say all people in the comic book industry are shallow sell outs?? 🙄

Why should I believe Stan is any different?

*Gasp* Because Stan is not Bob Kane. He's Stan Lee.

Ok, I would've liked to seen the webshooters in the movies, but you know, all this talk about how believable organics or a kid genius inventing webshooters in a fantasy world is relative.

Peter develops spider-powers after getting bitten. Ok that's farfetched, but only because you're comparing it to the real world. But in the context of his fantasy world, he's still an average teenage kid, just a bit smarter than his peers. So for him to develop webshooters is relatively strange, because it's not like he developed a super-spider BRAIN. Sh*t, I have a hard time believing he could even sew that suit of his so well. In fact in one of the recent Marvel Knights issues, I think Norman was saying how disappointed he was in Peter since if he's so smart at an early age, why is he "wasting" his talents on simply being a high school teacher? Kind of a self-mockery of Stan's origin story....because it simply doesn't make much sense. Of course, Peter criticized Norman saying "u're so smart too, u could've cured cancer by now!"

It's easy to just dismiss this argument with "it's a fantasy world, if he can develop spider-powers then he can certainly invent webshooters!" But if that's the case, then Aunt May can certainly be the herald for Galactus in the next movie, because it happened in the comics so since it's all science fiction, it can happen on the big screen too. A bit of an exaggeration yes, but do you see what I'm going for here?

It's all relative. The organics didn't kill the movie, but it did make Peter out to be very icky....shooting protein out of his wrists and all that. In fact, wasn't that how Peter got Venom to become weak once by overshooting his symbiote? It's like he's blowing his nose or ejaculating every time he webslings. 😎

One more thing I did find annoying and I have to agree with Parker is that the spider that bit Peter got away. They never showed it dying so it can simply bite others and make them into spider-men as well. On top of that, weren't there other super-spiders in that terrarium? All genetically engineered to make spider-men. What about the fate of those?

I enjoyed this movie immensely but there's always room for criticism.

I have to agree with Spy on this one. But oh well...

And yeah, STOP comparing Stan Lee with Bob Kane. Bob Kane's a hack! He had ghost writers doing half of his work, while he got all the credit!

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Will you stop comparing Stan Lee to Bob Kane. They are two completely DIFFERENT people.

Don't taint Stan with Bob Kane's brush.

Why would Stan blast the Hulk??

And I'll say again, Stan is not a dirty sell out. He's not that shallow that he'll say a compete BS interpretation of his character is good.

I did. It's BS.

Also BS.

Will you stop comparing Stan to Bob Kane.

Jesus Christ, they are two different people. Are you trying to say all people in the comic book industry are shallow sell outs?? 🙄

*Gasp* Because Stan is not Bob Kane. He's Stan Lee.

See I dont see Stan as a shallow sellout .I see him as someone who merely did something good for himself by promoting his most famous creation since he knew there was countless of money to be made from the success of the movie. AGAIN you got to take in what he says with a grain of salt because of course he is going to want to promote it and say nothing but good things about his most famous creation.

I ask you for a link to a time that Stan has ever publicly trashed another marvel comicbook movie and the ONLY answer you have for me is-Why would Stan blast The Hulk? All that answer does is just reinforce what I have been saying all along that he is too much of a nice and classy guy to go out and publicly trash a marval comicbook movie that he is unhappy about. No its not B.S.I ask you for a link showing me a time when he has publicly badmouthed another comicbook movie and you dont have one for me.Until you can post me a link where he has publicly badmouthed another bad marvel comicbook movie in public before in the past then again,that just shows you got to take in everything Stan says about the movies with a grain of salt.We have had this conversation before and it goes nowhere so I see no point in continuing it,that is unless you can post me that link that I asked for.Otherwise if you dont have one and dont have something NEW talk about such as the topic spyspider brought up,no sense in continuing this discussion about this topic because its just going nowhere.

Stan Lee is just as bob kane . Both have to promote the movies based on their creations , and they have to talk well about it even if they think in a totally different way. Do you think what could happen if Stan Lee would blame the organics before the relase of man spider? Or Kane bashing keaton as batman before the release of the tim burton film? This is show bussiness, it means a lot of lies to get money.

**** off

mr parker and bakeryboy have really good points. If stan lee said he wasnt happy about the organics and talked, slightly below perfection about the movies, it wouldnt have made as much $$$

These days its just business. Think about it. pretend you're stan lee. They changed the foundations of my character, the webshooters impacted how spiderman fights, he doesnt always kick the villain's arses, sometimes he has to run...or joke his way out since he ran out of webbing...etc

Originally posted by Silverstein
mr parker and bakeryboy have really good points. If stan lee said he wasnt happy about the organics and talked, slightly below perfection about the movies, it wouldnt have made as much $$$

These days its just business. Think about it. pretend you're stan lee. They changed the foundations of my character, the webshooters impacted how spiderman fights, he doesnt always kick the villain's arses, sometimes he has to run...or joke his way out since he ran out of webbing...etc

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You know what I learned from this thread?

Mr. Parker has really, really bad grammar. dontgetit

I've learned that people worry too much about stuff that doesn't matter that much. I think that if someone hates the way a super hero is made in a movie, that someone should watch the first one, state their opinion and let it go. Here's the famous cheesecake example: I love cheesecake but I tried Mcdonald's new cheesecake and I hate it. I won't go and complain to them about how much their cheesecake sucks and is a disgrace to every good cheesecake since it's just a freaking cheese cake, although it does make me really happy when I have some...Back to Spidermovies. It's entertainment. You won't die if you are not entertained. Complaining over and over again is useless. While you are complaining, you could have a pleasant time with a woman or just go out with your friends.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
You know what I learned from this thread?

Mr. Parker has really, really bad grammar. dontgetit

and like other people on here dont? whatever. 🙄 typical of a man-spider fan.they dont know anything but insults.

Stan lee could have talked trash about it and the sales would have been fine. Comic books dont sell well. Comic book fans are not what made that movie big.

Stan Lee was not paid off to say good things. Stan lee probably just didnt care as much as you do. That should say something about yourself.

the stuff we talk about here are pretty important. The cartridge webbing would affect Spider-man's actions. You have to try loyal to the comicbooks. It's like if they changed Superman's powers; Superman cannot fly, he can only jump really far, or something like that. They are just dumb-ifying the spiderman movies for people...one less thing to focus on.

The things that doesn't matter much is like; the actor's hair looks a tad wrong, or the navy flare/cowboy boots Eddie Brock i guess. I remember people in the Superman forum complaining that Brandon Routh's face was not masculine enough and too feminine, etc. And the S symbol was too small, the colours were all wrong in their opinion etc, and yaaahh.

Originally posted by Yarr
Stan lee could have talked trash about it and the sales would have been fine. Comic books dont sell well. Comic book fans are not what made that movie big.

Stan Lee was not paid off to say good things. Stan lee probably just didnt care as much as you do. That should say something about yourself.

That is a very accurate statement in what you said about comicbook fans not making the movie big.Very true,it didnt.It was kids that made it Big.Without spidey being the extreme popular icon figure that he is and the huge well built in fan base he has,no way is it the blockbuster at the theaters that it was.you know it.I know it.

Originally posted by Silverstein
the stuff we talk about here are pretty important. The cartridge webbing would affect Spider-man's actions. You have to try loyal to the comicbooks. It's like if they changed Superman's powers; Superman cannot fly, he can only jump really far, or something like that. They are just dumb-ifying the spiderman movies for people...one less thing to focus on.

The things that doesn't matter much is like; the actor's hair looks a tad wrong, or the navy flare/cowboy boots Eddie Brock i guess. I remember people in the Superman forum complaining that Brandon Routh's face was not masculine enough and too feminine, etc. And the S symbol was too small, the colours were all wrong in their opinion etc, and yaaahh.

yes THOSE kind of things those fanboys in the superman section were complaing about are minor things that dont affect his character.The mechanical shooters ARE a major change that affects his character.thats the biggest lie of the century when people say its a minor change and that the film was true to his character.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
That is a very accurate statement in what you said about comicbook fans not making the movie big.Very true,it didnt.It was kids that made it Big.

Yeah, I wonder what you'd say if I said kids made Batman Begins big too 🙄

Not that BB made anywhere near the kind of money the Spidey movies have 😉

Originally posted by Yarr
Comic books dont sell well. Comic book fans are not what made that movie big.

Have you ever seen the sales figures for comic books???

Believe me, the fans were major contributors. The bitter ones like to think it was swarms of little kiddies that generated the 1.5 billion dollars these two movies have made.

But if you use the kids excuse on a superhero movie they like, and they'll try with all their might to tell you it wasn't 😄

Originally posted by Doc Ock
Yeah, I wonder what you'd say if I said kids made Batman Begins big too 🙄

Not that BB made anywhere near the kind of money the Spidey movies have 😉

Well I've been around on this block with you several times before so Im not going to repeat something to you that I have already discussed with you countless of times before. 🙄 that would be just beating a dead horse