Originally posted by peejayd
* there's no need for Cyke to destroy a mountain as proof for you, dude... it just tells you how powerful Cyke's blasts are...* and with that kind of premise, no Bishop can withstand a blast like that, maybe Hulk... but Bishop ain't Hulk, you know...
He never destroyed a mountain or did anything resebling such then how do come up with that?
The only time Cyclops has mentionedanything like that was after he had been sunbathing for the btter part of a day essentially absorbing more power and I can't remeber who showed up, but Cyclops said somethingalong the lines of "right now I can punch a hole through a mountain".
That isn't proof of anything, it just means he feltreally powerful at the moment.
Bishop doesn't withstand Cyclop's blast because he is really tough. He absorbs it because it is his mutatn ability to absorb energy, including kinetic. Just like Sabastian Shaw. He was getting so powerful that he no longer needed to abosrb a beam or explosion but could power himelsf by aborbing the energy realsed by the moving around.
Also Onslaught's blast were knocking around powerful people like Iron Man and Thor but as you saw Bishop was able to abosrb that energy, so unless Cyclops is suddenly more powerful than Onslaught then Bishop absrob's his blast.
Originally posted by Warmonger
He never destroyed a mountain or did anything resebling such then how do come up with that?The only time Cyclops has mentionedanything like that was after he had been sunbathing for the btter part of a day essentially absorbing more power and I can't remeber who showed up, but Cyclops said somethingalong the lines of "right now I can punch a hole through a mountain".
That isn't proof of anything, it just means he feltreally powerful at the moment.
Bishop doesn't withstand Cyclop's blast because he is really tough. He absorbs it because it is his mutatn ability to absorb energy, including kinetic. Just like Sabastian Shaw. He was getting so powerful that he no longer needed to abosrb a beam or explosion but could power himelsf by aborbing the energy realsed by the moving around.
Also Onslaught's blast were knocking around powerful people like Iron Man and Thor but as you saw Bishop was able to abosrb that energy, so unless Cyclops is suddenly more powerful than Onslaught then Bishop absrob's his blast.
Ur exactly right...its just hyperbole
Cyclops can blow a hole in a mountain
Blob is unmovable
Juggernaut is unstoppable
Hulk is the strongest
Storm is a goddess
doesnt really mean anything though
Originally posted by peejayd
* there's no need for Cyke to destroy a mountain as proof for you, dude... it just tells you how powerful Cyke's blasts are...* and with that kind of premise, no Bishop can withstand a blast like that, maybe Hulk... but Bishop ain't Hulk, you know...
here you ****ing idiot. here is a picture of Bishop absorbing Onslaught's energy.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5161614
Bishop wins this handily. He is the more skilled combatant, can absorb Scott's blasts, and has technologically advanced weapons.
now a fight I'd like to see again, is Bishop vs. Cable..can't get enough
Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
here you ****ing idiot. here is a picture of Bishop absorbing Onslaught's energy.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5161614
Bishop wins this handily. He is the more skilled combatant, can absorb Scott's blasts, and has technologically advanced weapons.
now a fight I'd like to see again, is Bishop vs. Cable..can't get enough
* purely insane, dude... and BTW, you got manners?
* LOL just look at the funny wince on Bishop's face when doing so, LOL 😆
* Cyke still wins, dude... see this pic of Cyke blasting the hell of Onslaught, resulting a crack on a reborn Onslaught's armour...
Originally posted by Beyonder
Cyclops 5-6/10.Cyke opens a wide area attack and Bishop ain't going to absorb it.
Cyke plays smart and blows the ground under Bishop; Bishop can do the same.
Both also have the option of blows things onto the other one. It's an option Cyke has if he doesn't want to go full area blast on Bishop.
Why can't Bishop absorb a wide angle attack?
If he blows something at Bishop Bishop abosrbs it if its energy if its not he draisn the energy out of it and it stops.
Originally posted by peejayd
* purely insane, dude... and BTW, you got manners?* LOL just look at the funny wince on Bishop's face when doing so, LOL 😆
* Cyke still wins, dude... see this pic of Cyke blasting the hell of Onslaught, resulting a crack on a reborn Onslaught's armour...
I agree there is no need for abusive language.
I fail to see how this proves that Bishop can't abosrb Cyclops blast. In order to prove that you would have to be able to prove that Onslaught's Blast couldn't punch a hole in his own armor.
Force vs Energy. Continuous rapid generation of kinetic energy upon impact as opposed to unitary burst of energy. He isn't constantly absorbing kinetic energy otherwise he wouldn't be able to move around. Rate of absorption slower than rate of generation upon impact considering speed and power of beam.
Originally posted by WarmongerCyclops blasts don't affect him because his body has a field which shunts the force back to it's extradimensional point of origin.
He absorbs energy Passively. Yes he wouldn't bea ble to move but Cyclops head should shoot off everytime he opens his eyes as well. Thats part of the suspesion.Also you would have to prove taht Onslaught's blasts don't produce kinetic energy.
If I fire bullets at him he has to actively absorb the kinetic energy upon impact to prevent the bullets from piercing him. This is not a bullet however this is a continuous stream of much greater force moving at a much faster rate.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Cyclops blasts don't affect him because his body has a field which shunts the force back to it's extradimensional point of origin.If I fire bullets at him he has to actively absorb the kinetic energy upon impact to prevent the bullets from piercing him. This is not a bullet however this is a continuous stream of much greater force moving at a much faster rate.
then why does his visor block his beams? If its pure force then it should shoot of of his head whne he opesn his eyes. Instead it filters through teh crystal. So that must mean that it is enough engergy that the crystal cna contain it, yes?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The visor is composed of Ruby Quartz, substance synchronous to the resonance of the field. It acts in the same manner. The visor opens to allow the force through.
Except that the visor alows him to open his eyes and have it not shot off. That means it is converting the force into some sort of inert energy. Basically the visor is able to absorb Cyclops energy blast because i=of its properties. Bishop's powers are to absorb energy if it hit him he would convert it as well.
Also how could absorbed sunlight convert into pure kinetic force?
Also in relevance to the fight, we saw Onlsaught's Blast knocking around guys like Iron Mand so ti is obvioulsy composed of kinteric energy as well but when he hit bishop he didn't go flying so he can absorb the force jsut fine.