Serenity

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Am I the only one who thought this movie was garbage? The reavers were dawn of the dead knock-offs, the guy with the sword was the shallowest main character Ive ever seen, the captain of the serenity was again a knock-off this time of Han Solo, and the 'super karate girl' was just annoying.

Missing the point a little, it wasn't supposed to be original on the whole sci-fi inventions front. It was about the story and the dialogue, not an attempt to outdo Star Wars (although funnily enough, it did). And the guy with the sword wasn't the main character, and I fail to see why he was ''shallow'', the movie spent a good deal of time on his character.

Zombies aren't movie specific characters btw, so Serenity has just as much right to use those types of creatures as any other.

Originally posted by Deathblow

Zombies aren't movie specific characters btw, so Serenity has just as much right to use those types of creatures as any other.

They weren't even zombies to begin with. 😬

Yeah, but they were very obviously based on them. And that's not the point anyway.

Originally posted by Deathblow
Missing the point a little, it wasn't supposed to be original on the whole sci-fi inventions front. It was about the story and the dialogue, not an attempt to outdo Star Wars (although funnily enough, it did). And the guy with the sword wasn't the main character, and I fail to see why he was ''shallow'', the movie spent a good deal of time on his character.

Zombies aren't movie specific characters btw, so Serenity has just as much right to use those types of creatures as any other.

Its okay if the movies not revolutionary, but the whole movie was cut and paste work and sloppy at that.

Over all impression was impressive. However, some parts lacked a dramatic feeling you might associate to some of this movie. At least it doesn't overdo that, like the Star Wars prequels did.

7/10

I'm not sure I understand complaints about the Operative. He's an idealist whose worldview is shattered in the end. His motives and personality are explained fairly well, so what more is expected of him? Most movie antagonists aren't so well developed.
It's a mistake to define Mal as a copy of Han Solo. They're both rogues of a sort who are both essentially moral individuals, but beyond that? Mal is a far more conflicted character, his experiences are the opposite of Han's (while the latter goes from being a smuggler who's out for number one to believing in the rebellion, the former has lost faith after his rebellion failed and circumstances force him to look out for number one). Do they fit the same general description? Yes. There are only so many different types of characters and none of them are "original" anymore, so to make similarities or influences out to be knock-offs is unjustified.
As for the Reavers, keep in mind this was created as something of a space western. The Reavers were created as the incomprehensible and violent "other" that Indians were used as in Westerns: the boogeyman out on the edge of civilization, keeping settlers scared, not zombies. The revelation of their origins was more akin to the revelation of Nazi concentration camps than anything: the side effect of trying to make a brave new world.
If an actual criticism had been made of River I might attempt to respond to it. "She's annoying" does not apply.

Beautifully stated Zarathustra, I couldn't agree more. Joss Whedon's movies/tv shows are deeply rooted in his characters and plot lines, and he tackles complex philosophical issues (violence in heroism, autonomy vs. society) with much more care and subtlety than George Lucas ever did. His characters are flawed, human and compelling when compared to the automotons in the SW prequels. I'm a huge fan of the tv show as well, which is equally well done.

All I know is that the little girl who was more than she seemed was absolutely awesome! She kicked ass. And I mean that on a galactic level. I can't wait to see the Firefly dvds.

Perhaps since its been so long since we have had good sci-fi in cinema, you people have forgotten...

I thought it showed lot of zest,
I mean, to release a film in the wake of a known block buster.
They gave the longest trailer (an actual piece of the movie) that I’ve seen.
How about the demographics of the fan base?
In all, it gives us more scifi sustenance,
Bravo to Serenity.

Just got the Firefly series.

I love it.

I just finished the Firefly series and I loved every bit of it. By the way, the Reavers were more like 'Space Orcs' than zombies, and I loved every bit of that as well. It's a shame this series has been cancelled. The stories and characters were awesome! I can't wait to see the movie again. I saw the movie before I saw the series, and now the movie will be even better since I know more about the background of the events and characters from watching the series.

Originally posted by Tired Hiker
I just finished the Firefly series and I loved every bit of it. By the way, the Reavers were more like 'Space Orcs' than zombies, and I loved every bit of that as well. It's a shame this series has been cancelled. The stories and characters were awesome! I can't wait to see the movie again. I saw the movie before I saw the series, and now the movie will be even better since I know more about the background of the events and characters from watching the series.

Same here 👆

Originally posted by Mando
Same here 👆

What was your favorite episode? The one that stands out for me was 'Jaynestown' and the very last one with that guy 'Early', where River snuck into his ship! Loved it!

Originally posted by Tired Hiker
What was your favorite episode? The one that stands out for me was 'Jaynestown' and the very last one with that guy 'Early', where River snuck into his ship! Loved it!

I'd say "Out of Gas".

That episode is done so well I loved it. It's better than most MOVIES out there.

Originally posted by Mando
I'd say "Out of Gas".

That episode is done so well I loved it. It's better than most MOVIES out there.

Oh yeah, that was great! The way they jumped around in time was done very well. I forgot about that one. Damn, they were all soooooooo good, it's hard to say. I also liked that one where Mal and what's his name, the pilot guy who is married, go on that mission and get tortured! That was some great character development.

i hate you people with the firefly series, but probably just because i don't have it. Serenity was awesome, but i don't have cacble so i can't watch firefly on TV, i think the best part was when they were comeing out of the reaper territory. the sad part is that i called it even before they went into it after leaving the planet.

Yeah all and all it was a good movie. The series was not as great as I hoped. I can kind of see why it didn't do as great on the television. Besides, I don't see how the show could of continued with the pilot of Serenity dying in the movie. I thought that was kind of a low blow. But hey, shows come and show go.

i think the movie was supposed to be after the series though, but i didn't really research it, because i didn't really care that much about it. but if it was supposed to be during the series, than the director is a total idiot.

Originally posted by Tired Hiker
Oh yeah, that was great! The way they jumped around in time was done very well. I forgot about that one. Damn, they were all soooooooo good, it's hard to say. I also liked that one where Mal and what's his name, the pilot guy who is married, go on that mission and get tortured! That was some great character development.

I think That episode was called "war stories". And he was tortured with Wash.

R.I.P. Wash

Originally posted by Revanall
i think the movie was supposed to be after the series though, but i didn't really research it, because i didn't really care that much about it. but if it was supposed to be during the series, than the director is a total idiot.

It was after. Because Anara didn't leave the ship until after the series ended. And neither did Shepp.