Guns!!!

Originally posted by Ken Kenobi
By "drage me into this" I meant in the fact that it someone threatening to kill you "forces regular people" to buy a gun. I've had a death threat before. Did I go out and buy a gun? No. So your statement is made false because not all "regular" people will be forced to buy a gun. You're generalizing.

What makes you think we're not buds? All I am doing is pointing out the mistakes in your argument and you don't like me disagreeing with you. So therefore we are not friends because I have a difference of opinion?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
when i was your age and single, i thought just like you did. i felt no need to arm myself, i was capable of defending myself with my fists.

Then don't be hypocritical of other people's views.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
let me ask you this. a while back, you were invlvoed with someone, remember that? well, what if you guys lived together now and were engaged. you are responsible for her now. if something happened to her that you could have prevented had you been armed, would you hate yourself forever for not being armed? think hard and long on this before answering, ken, i implore you.

I was involved with someone, that is true. I cared the world of her, that is true. If something had happened to her then yes I would have hated myself. But there are other ways of being prepared other than owning a firearm. Like I said already, baseball bats would work. You can come up with many common household items as well.

Think about this...you wake up in the middle of the night after hearing a loud sound. You quickly pull out your gun and go off to investigate. You're scared shitless and didn't even check to see if FJ was sleeping soundly. You see a shadowy figure approach up the stairs quietly. You fear for your life and you shoot. What if that was FJ? People are careless with guns, no matter how much they say they aren't. In the heat of the moment you don't think rationally.

I do not like guns, they are too dangerous. I constantly have children in my home and I do not want to be responsible for accidents. Sure accidents can happen with a baseball bat too, but at least it wouldn't be lethal.

Maybe you trust yourself enough with a gun, but I don't.

Originally posted by Ken Kenobi
Then don't be hypocritical of other people's views.

I was involved with someone, that is true. I cared the world of her, that is true. If something had happened to her then yes I would have hated myself. But there are other ways of being prepared other than owning a firearm. Like I said already, baseball bats would work. You can come up with many common household items as well.

Think about this...you wake up in the middle of the night after hearing a loud sound. You quickly pull out your gun and go off to investigate. You're scared shitless and didn't even check to see if FJ was sleeping soundly. You see a shadowy figure approach up the stairs quietly. You fear for your life and you shoot. What if that was FJ? People are careless with guns, no matter how much they say they aren't. In the heat of the moment you don't think rationally.

I do not like guns, they are too dangerous. I constantly have children in my home and I do not want to be responsible for accidents. Sure accidents can happen with a baseball bat too, but at least it wouldn't be lethal.

Maybe you trust yourself enough with a gun, but I don't.

I agree 100 percent here,after all kmcdude dont need a gun.................................................when he has a big badass baseball bat 😄

see this is why america has the highest muder rate with guns... everyones carrying one.. so when people have arguments... instead of just having a fight and one guy ending up with a black eye... you draw guns and shoot each other.. and everyone dies...

Personaly I think your asking for more trouble carrying a gun then without one...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
see this is why america has the highest muder rate with guns... everyones carrying one.. so when people have arguments... instead of just having a fight and one guy ending up with a black eye... you draw guns and shoot each other.. and everyone dies...

Personaly I think your asking for more trouble carrying a gun then without one...

✅

I still don't like guns

GUNS ARE FOR WIMPS 😐

i only like them when ur on ranges ✅

Originally posted by Ken Kenobi
First off. If I saw, heard them coming...I have a baseball bat that can do just as bad of damage while also being non leathal (in most cases). Let the jerkwad suffer in prison. Plus it's safer for everyone in the house, cheaper too. 😉

Secondly. I don't live in Las Vegas. I live in a small town 40 miles away from Vegas. The whole time I've lived here we have not had one single home invasion. I've lived here for 2 1/2 years.

Originally posted by DarkC
I assume that RJ here would probably not pull the trigger unless he absolutely had to. He'd probably be decent enough to at least attempt disarm the convict harmlessly before resulting to further action.

Judging by his earlier comments I would think otherwise. His strategy seems to shoot first before the other person can do the same.

Originally posted by DarkC
I assume that RJ here would probably not pull the trigger unless he absolutely had to. He'd probably be decent enough to at least attempt disarm the convict harmlessly before resulting to further action.

Really? No disrespect meant, but like an example already posted here: If you are awakened in the middle of the night by sounds coming from the house indicating someone breaking in? So you grab a gun and start investigating with your heart pounding, not knowing what to expect and pretty jumpy. You encounter someone in the house with bad intentions and stealing your stuff might be the least. Say the guy turns on you and attacks, with or without a weapon himself.
It would take a great deal of selfcontrol, confidence and reason to lay the gun aside and try to overpower the guy by hand.
Shit ain't like that! When you face a situation like that and you have a gun in your hand as this guy comes for you, you don't think of the consequences of your actions anymore but only about saving your butt at that very instant. So if you're not a experienced soldier, cop, fighter or whatever, you will most likely fire the gun at him. And being panicked, you might even empty the gun on the guy, probably killing him for sure.
This happens all the time, people killing because they fall back on weapons to defend themselves but not really estimating the destructiveness of these weapons.

Originally posted by Ken Kenobi
Judging by his earlier comments I would think otherwise. His strategy seems to shoot first before the other person can do the same.

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Really? No disrespect meant, but like an example already posted here: If you are awakened in the middle of the night by sounds coming from the house indicating someone breaking in? So you grab a gun and start investigating with your heart pounding, not knowing what to expect and pretty jumpy. You encounter someone in the house with bad intentions and stealing your stuff might be the least. Say the guy turns on you and attacks, with or without a weapon himself.
It would take a great deal of selfcontrol, confidence and reason to lay the gun aside and try to overpower the guy by hand.
Shit ain't like that! When you face a situation like that and you have a gun in your hand as this guy comes for you, you don't think of the consequences of your actions anymore but only about saving your butt at that very instant. So if you're not a experienced soldier, cop, fighter or whatever, you will most likely fire the gun at him. And being panicked, you might even empty the gun on the guy, probably killing him for sure.
This happens all the time, people killing because they fall back on weapons to defend themselves but not really estimating the destructiveness of these weapons.

Yes, better. If he would take his time to cool down before running down the stairs, reviewing possible scenario's. Then, if he can sneak up on, or atleast surprise the invader and so turning the tables, it is possible.
In that case, having a gun will most likely get the guy running like hell. Or making him freeze, allowing you to plant a foot in his face, both good. But you still can't be sure about how desperate the invader is and what he is capable of...

First sign of the other drawing a weapon, any quick movements, blow 'em away.

Right. So you can go to jail for 10 years, leaving your girl unprotected. Smart thinking

It's pretty much a life/death situation if they try to draw a weapon on you, have you realised that? Better 10 years in jail than a large hole where your forehead used to be.

We were at the point of discussion at which there is the possibility to surprise the invader, like smacking the bastard with a chair instead of adding some extra holes.
In fact, the best thing you can do is just stay where you are, the bedroom. What do I care, I have good insurance. Stand next to the doorway with a club (which I do have under the bed) and be very very quiet. But never go after a burglar; even if you smack him, you're in for trouble in court alone. Atleast, that is how shit goes down here.
If the guy does enter the room, hit him once, but hard. That can be defended as self defence and might get you of the hook.

Originally posted by Pandemoniac
Right. So you can go to jail for 10 years, leaving your girl unprotected. Smart thinking

also, the first thing i would do is check on FJ. this is a no brainer, brainiac.

guns are for wimps? guns are a necessity in the world we live in, KMC dude. when you get older, you will understand this.

I wouldn't mind letting my guy have a gun..but only for when he needs it for like safety or whatever..not like hunting or anything like that.

Originally posted by DarkC
I assume that RJ here would probably not pull the trigger unless he absolutely had to. He'd probably be decent enough to at least attempt disarm the convict harmlessly before resulting to further action.