Storm Vs. Magneto [with a catch]

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
A large ferrous asteroid... tidal waves, dust cloud blocking the sun, mass extinction etc.

Some of that is not direct destruction caused by their powers. Only direct destruction counts here im afraid. Given classic Mags powers it would take time for him to manipulate a large enough mass of metal, please recall that his known limit is around 30, 000 tons. He would then have to plough that around the planet. The characters dont get tired but they have limits to what their abilities can do. Its not as effective in terms of sheer destruction or as wide ranging as Storms hyperstorm given the circumstances of this thread (only surface damage and direct destruction), and the more precise nature of Magnetos power.( i.e manipulating a mass of metal to destroy at given points as opposed to waves of destruction over a wide area.)

He says he's limited to classic powers but not classic limits.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
He says he's limited to classic powers but not classic limits.

He's never been shown to be past that classic limit of 30 ,000 tons so the advantage you were trying to gain for Mags is lost.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Or he could make a giant balls of it and send it into orbit and let it fall back to the ground.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Despite this being like teabagging on the highest scale for the planet . . if you take the balls into orbit and just let them go. . . they're just going to well. . . Orbit. . .

Cresh is coming up with the goods today 😉

He could just do this to every city on Earth.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Despite this being like teabagging on the highest scale for the planet . .

if you take the balls into orbit and just let them go. . . they're just going to well. . . Orbit. . .

This also reminds me of Todd Glass talking about George Carlin with his "I'm getting IN the plane!" stuff.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He's never been shown to be past that classic limit of 30 ,000 tons so the advantage you were trying to gain for Mags is lost.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He could just do this to every city on Earth.

As per the threadmakers rules he's not permitted to unfortunately 🙁

Uh... that's classic Magneto doing something with his classic Magneto powers.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

How big was Astroid M?

Magneto never wielded Asteroid M as a weapon. Big difference.

Gathering the masses of metal required for your scenario would take time and wielding such a huge mass around like a weapon is beyond classic mags capabilities. Not only that but such a weapon can only cause destruction at precise points. Thats less efficient given the terms of the thread than the large scale waves of destruction storm is capable of. They have a week.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Uh... that's classic Magneto doing something with his classic Magneto powers.

Uh but thats classic Mags NOT limited to causing surface damage

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Magneto never wielded Asteroid M as a weapon. Big difference.

Gathering the masses of metal required for your scenario would take time and wielding such a huge mass around like a weapon is beyond classic mags capabilities. Not only that but such a weapon can only cause destruction at precise points. Thats less efficient given the terms of the thread than the large scale waves of destruction storm is capable of. They have a week.

Nor does it stop him from making his own hurricane out of buildings and scrap.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Uh but thats classic Mags NOT limited to causing surface damage

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
But that doesn't mean he couldn't. You have all the x-men comics, how big was asteroid m?

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That doesn't stop him from dropping meteors on fault lines to cause quakes/open fissures maybe or using them to cause tsunamis.

Nor does it stop him from making his own hurricane out of buildings and scrap.

The thread creator says they're going for surface damage but doesn't say they're limited to surface damage. It's just the surface damage that counts.

I know Asteroid M was big but he didnt use it as a weapon he merely levitated it into orbit and that took extreme effort and concentration. He simply wouldnt be able to (or at least hasnt been shown to be able to) gather such a huge mass of metal to use as a weapon. Doing that would take a lot of time and its still just destruction at precise points as opposed to destruction over a wide area.

The whole point of this thread like the whole one was about who can exact the most surface damage. The threadmaker then gave examples of what he meant such as the destruction of cars building etc. It was made very clear stop trying to get around it. Creating a volcano in the middle of the city is not him limiting his actions to the surface and surface damage and therefore isnt included.

I don't recall Asteroid M staying in orbit of it's own accord.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't recall Asteroid M staying in orbit of it's own accord.

It was held together by Magneto but Magnetos hardly going to be supporting its weight if its in space is he? 😉

u know, magnetism doesnt just affect metals, at extremely high levels, its just a force that influences all matter.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
u know, magnetism doesnt just affect metals, at extremely high levels, its just a force that influences all matter.

If you read the threamakers thread (which is something you should always do before you contribute 😉 ) you'd know that magneto isnt allowed to delve into those territories with his powers.

Metal. Hurricane.

http://www.armageddononline.net/asteroid.php

"A near earth Object (NEO) does not need to be large to devastate. One the size of a small garage would annihilate a large city. One big enough to leave a 10km crater, still nowhere near the size of the biggest (there is a 300km crater on Earth), would have the destructive force of every one of the world's 10,000 nuclear warhead combined. "

Magneto could easily construct a mass of metal that large, bring it into orbit and in launch it right into a highly concentrated area, or along fault lines, or into the pacific and wipe out 25% of the population instantly.

GS's 30,000 ton "limit" is bullshit. Magneto's bio said that before Magneto's powerup, he lifted a 30,000 ton freighter over some distance. It said absolutely nothing about that being his limit, and in the actual issue where that took place, Magneto did it casually. Not a hint of strain whatsoever. In the comic book, there's been no limit shown to his ability to lift a metal object. But Asteroid M, which is also lifted and shielded with his own power, is going to be MUCH heavier than 30,000 tons.

So the point stands: Magneto can combine all the skyscrapers and bridges and cars and planes in NYC into a giant megaball (which in itself will kill millions), then launches them into space, then yanks it back down in the northeast US. Then repeats it like it's a bloody yo-yo until the entire planet is done.

Out of curiosity, how big Asteroid M? Was it like a full city or what?