Really though, how mad can one get? there has to be a limit to rage, or there would be no mindless Hulk. When Hulk was so called "mindless" Jean Grey had removed everything from his mind until all he felt was rage, thus he was mindless. Doesn't that mean that he does in fact have a limit to his strength? When one only feels rage, to the point where they can feel nothing else that is there limit.
Besides that, he would have lifted that mountain with ease, especially since they were intentionally trying to make him angry?
Originally posted by Soujaboy
How much does the earth weigh?
Trick question. The "weight" of an object is simply a function of the particular gravitational field that the object is in. That is why a person would weigh less on the moon than they would on the earth. The earth has more gravity and thus object weigh more than they would on the smaller moon. As such the question of what the earth weighs is moot.
Now the mass of the earth is 5.9736×10^24kg.
To figure out the force needed for Superman to be able to move the moon (that has a mass of 7.36 × 10^22 kilograms) we can use the old F=ma or force equal mass times acceleration formula and let us assume for the sake of simplicity that Superman only wants to accelerate the moon to a speed of 1 meter per second (or 2.24 miles per hour).
Rather easily we can tell that Superman would need to exert 7.36 x 10^22 Newtons of force on the moon. In English units this would be approximately equivalent to:
827,296,899,200,000,000 tons of force (US)* exerted by Superman on the moon.
*Note that these types of calculations are difficult to do using Internet based calculators, so I'll double check the numbers when I get home and can use my own.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Supermans strength feats are superior to Hulks, but thats just me.I don't think Hulk could hold a black hole in his hands.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Really though, how mad can one get? there has to be a limit to rage, or there would be no mindless Hulk. When Hulk was so called "mindless" Jean Grey had removed everything from his mind until all he felt was rage, thus he was mindless. Doesn't that mean that he does in fact have a limit to his strength? When one only feels rage, to the point where they can feel nothing else that is there limit.Besides that, he would have lifted that mountain with ease, especially since they were intentionally trying to make him angry?
Hulk's done much greater feats that simply dwarf the mountain feat.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Really though, how mad can one get? there has to be a limit to rage, or there would be no mindless Hulk. When Hulk was so called "mindless" Jean Grey had removed everything from his mind until all he felt was rage, thus he was mindless. Doesn't that mean that he does in fact have a limit to his strength? When one only feels rage, to the point where they can feel nothing else that is there limit.Besides that, he would have lifted that mountain with ease, especially since they were intentionally trying to make him angry?
Speculative. Let's not forget the fact that Hulk is no ordinary human. Hell, he isn't even an ordinary super human. He's a man-monster, a physical embodiment of intense anger and frustration. I see no reason for Hulk to have a limit to his anger, as he's basically anger itself. Besides that, he was still getting angrier and still able to speak. So he wasn't Mindless Hulk, because he can't speak.
As for the mountain, that was Banner-Hulk. He broke his leg during the Secret Wars, which healed instantly when the Savage Hulk Reemerged during a fight with another Hulk creature.
Originally posted by Accel
Read the "who's Stronger: Superman or Hulk?" thread and you''ll see that's not true.We've already established that his strength is not completely dereived from his rage. Besides, there's no indication whatsoever that his rage had a limit. If you hit him, he'll get angry. hit him again and he'll get even angrier. Hit him again and he'll get angrier than that and so on and so forth.
Hulk's done much greater feats that simply dwarf the mountain feat.
You really actually don't know that Hulk's rage derives from anywhere but his rage. From Marvel comics, and bio's I've learned that as the Hulk gets angrier he gets stronger.
I have also learned from Marvel Comics that Hulk apparently does have a limit to how angry or strong he can get. When you take everything away from a person until all they feel is rage, to the point where the are already in a mindlessly enraged state, how do they get any more enraged?
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Speculative. Let's not forget the fact that Hulk is no ordinary human. Hell, he isn't even an ordinary super human. He's a man-monster, a physical embodiment of intense anger and frustration. I see no reason for Hulk to have a limit to his anger, as he's basically anger itself. Besides that, he was still getting angrier and still able to speak. So he wasn't Mindless Hulk, because he can't speak.As for the mountain, that was Banner-Hulk. He broke his leg during the Secret Wars, which healed instantly when the Savage Hulk Reemerged during a fight with another Hulk creature.
Actually, Midless Hulk couldn't speak.
To unleash nothing but a mind consumed of Rage. That implies that Savage Hulk indeed does have a limit to how angry he can get, for if he didn't his mind wouldn't be wiped so that all he can feel is rage. Either that or Savage Hulk cant reach his potential because of the "emotional baggage" that haunts him.
Consumed by rage doesn't necessarily mean completely enraged to da maxxorzz!!1! Rage is the main trait of Savage Hulk, so he should be able to increase his rage. Otherwise Marvel might as well have organized his rage-strength efficiency a little differently. They clearly intended the Hulk to be the strongest non-cosmic physical being, they just decided to develope him in a different way. Instead of giving him immediate acces to unlimited strength, they balanced it a bit. A wise decision, because it made the Hulk recognizable and different from other mainstream powerhouses. But the results are largely the same: an ungodly amount of strength and strength potential. So my guess is that Hulk can alway, ALWAYS become more angry/dissatisfied.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
You really actually don't know that Hulk's rage derives from anywhere but his rage. From Marvel comics, and bio's I've learned that as the Hulk gets angrier he gets stronger.I have also learned from Marvel Comics that Hulk apparently does have a limit to how angry or strong he can get. When you take everything away from a person until all they feel is rage, to the point where the are already in a mindlessly enraged state, how do they get any more enraged?
And if you feel nothing but rage, how does that imply you have a limit to how mad you can get? If one is just feeling rage ad nothing else, then that would imply unlimited rage. Again, if you hit Hulk, he'll get angry, hit him again and he'll become even angrier, etc.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
Based on.....what? The Hulk can't fly so he wouldn't be able to come close to one. And without flight, Superman wouldn't be able to "hold" a black hole in his hands either. Restist the gravitational forces, yes, but not "hold" it, whatever that means.
Actually, he was on land when he held it in his hand. The JLA was right behind him when he did it. 😉
Originally posted by Soujaboy
To unleash nothing but a mind consumed of Rage. That implies that Savage Hulk indeed does have a limit to how angry he can get, for if he didn't his mind wouldn't be wiped so that all he can feel is rage. Either that or Savage Hulk cant reach his potential because of the "emotional baggage" that haunts him.
When your mind is completely consumed by rage you cant get any angrier, because your mind is already completely consumed by it.
Picture a room. Now the room is all bright right? Now close the door and enclose darkness in the room. When the room is completely consumed by darkness, how can it get any more dark? it can't.
Now when there's is nothing but rage left withing your mind, there is no way you can get anymore enraged.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
When your mind is completely consumed by rage you cant get any angrier, because your mind is already completely consumed by it.Picture a room. Now the room is all bright right? Now close the door and enclose darkness in the room. When the room is completely consumed by darkness, how can it get any more dark? it can't.
Now when there's is nothing but rage left withing your mind, there is no way you can get anymore enraged.
Again, nothing but rage just means that Hulk's strength came even quicker. It wasn't that he felt a limited amount of rage, it was that he felt nothing ELSE (no happiness, no cockniess, no pride, etc). With no other emotions to focus on, all Hulk had to work with was rage, so it increased at a much greater rate than it normally would have.
Originally posted by Accel
Yes you can. The mind works MUCH differently than a room with lighting.Again, nothing but rage just means that Hulk's strength came even quicker. It wasn't that he felt a limited amount of rage, it was that he felt nothing ELSE (no happiness, no cockniess, no pride, etc). With no other emotions to focus on, all Hulk had to work with was rage, so it increased at a much greater rate than it normally would have.
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