Superman vs. Hulk

Started by bigbran444 pages

Originally posted by xmeat
You sound very stupid thor was involved as well the son of odin who has fought thanos, zeus, loki, and expecially hercules.
DUH dummy!
I never said Thor wasn't involved! Zeus would stomp Onslut. Thanos would beat him. Loki/Hercules would lose, but he obviously wasn't a threat to Loki/Hercules, was he?
Also, Thor's enemies have different powers than Thor, and they are irrelevent to this debate.

It doesn't matter who he fought, because I never said anything about powers.

He obviously wasn't a threat to the people I mentioned if they didn't fight him!

You said he was a threat to almost everyone, obviously he wasn't!

Anyway, Darkseid erases Onslut from existence.

Superman destroys Hulk.

sooo can someone tell me why this fight is going on?.....i mean by now hulk has lost and superman i layin back watchin tv untill the next big fight 😎

Originally posted by MrMordrid
"bloodlusted superman" what the hell is that? Im assuming another suped up version of Supes? if this was the case than how come Supes wasn't Bloodlusted when he fought Doomsday?

Please read the versus forum rules. I'll post the link and copy the part about bloodlusted. These rules are located at the top of the versus forum. 😐

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/308157_1-forum-rules-read-me

Bloodlust

It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first picosecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

Originally posted by Magnus Lensher
sooo can someone tell me why this fight is going on?.....i mean by now hulk has lost and superman i layin back watchin tv untill the next big fight 😎

Because n00bs can't grasp the forum rules.

supes aint beating hulk when he struugles with other heavy hitters who could hulk could beat.

Originally posted by xmeat
supes aint beating hulk when he struugles with other heavy hitters who could hulk could beat.
You really do have some bs logic pal. Its nothing to do with who each character has beating, its all about feats and not high end ones for hulk and low for Superman, get a clue plz.

Originally posted by xmeat
hulk wins lobo fought an even match with supes so hulk should have no problem.

You mean this Lobo? 😕

😉

Originally posted by xmeat
supes aint beating hulk when he struugles with other heavy hitters who could hulk could beat.
OK... so Hulk could beat Doomsday, Darkseid, Dominus?

Hell whatever, T-Vo. There is absolutely no way that Hulk has any defense against that!
You can argue all you want against something that already made no sense, but Hulk has no defense what-so-ever against that!

Your logic makes no sense.

You only see a strength battle, but what you don't see is Superman's ability to speedblitz, go over lightspeed, super fast fighting reflexes, heat vision, freeze breath, duribility (that is enough to take a planet buster without him really knowing), he has actual fighting skills, etc.

If Superman doesn't go in for h2h, then he can just stand back and blow a hole through Hulk with his HV, or freeze him, and throw him into space, far, far away.
Superman can just speedblitz him, with his super strength and super speed.
Superman can just fly him to the sun, and Hulk is doing nothing.
Superman can also go h2h, and avoid every single attack, while beating his face in.
And if all else fails, T-Vo.

Superman has way to many options, while Hulk has one:

Superman forgets his ability to fly, he loses his super strength/super duribility, he forgets about his HV/Freeze breath/Blow breath, he forgets his fighting skills, he forgets about T-Vo, he forgets he can run at over lightspeed, he loses his bio aura, and by the way you guys explain it, he will just leans out his jaw, and lets Hulk have one good crack that somehow kills him...

Please, no one in this thread has given proof, or a reasonable explaination as to why Hulk will ever beat Superman, and every Hulk supporter in this thread that I have seen, has ignored every shred of evidence, and reason in here.
So if you actually think Hulk can beat him, then your going to have to start at this simple question:

How is Hulk going to hit him?

If you can't answer that, then back off.
That is also just the first question, and is a requirement for how Hulk will beat him.
If he can't hit him, then he can f*cking forget it.

Plus, Hulk is afraid of death, so why would he fight Superman?

So to illiterate:

Superman doesn't have to take one hit in this whole fight. Even if he does, he can take it... with ease.
Superman has other options than to go physical (the only chance Hulk has, which is still a no go), like, HV, freeze him and throwing him in space, T-Vo.
His physical options are also easy (again without taking a hit), punch him a thousand times repeatidly, keep hitting him while avoiding every attack to also take Hulk's confidence down, just take him to the sun, use a lot of his speed and focus up one big ass punch (if it doesn't KO him, it is going to bfr him), etc.

Hulk's options:
Punch him... 😐
That might be believable if Hulk could hit Spider-Man/Iron Fist, let alone Superman.

So no, Hulk CAN'T win, there was never any reason, and I probably won't ever see one.

Superman 10/10.

Originally posted by MrMordrid
"bloodlusted superman" what the hell is that? Im assuming another suped up version of Supes? if this was the case than how come Supes wasn't Bloodlusted when he fought Doomsday?

Considering that was 13-14 years ago, and Superman has gotten more and more powerful every year since his revival....

That's not exactly the most sound logic to use.

Originally posted by bigbran
OK... so Hulk could beat Doomsday, Darkseid, Dominus?

Hell whatever, T-Vo. There is absolutely no way that Hulk has any defense against that!
You can argue all you want against something that already made no sense, but Hulk has no defense what-so-ever against that!

Your logic makes no sense.

You only see a strength battle, but what you don't see is Superman's ability to speedblitz, go over lightspeed, super fast fighting reflexes, heat vision, freeze breath, duribility (that is enough to take a planet buster without him really knowing), he has actual fighting skills, etc.

If Superman doesn't go in for h2h, then he can just stand back and blow a hole through Hulk with his HV, or freeze him, and throw him into space, far, far away.
Superman can just speedblitz him, with his super strength and super speed.
Superman can just fly him to the sun, and Hulk is doing nothing.
Superman can also go h2h, and avoid every single attack, while beating his face in.
And if all else fails, T-Vo.

Superman has way to many options, while Hulk has one:

Superman forgets his ability to fly, he loses his super strength/super duribility, he forgets about his HV/Freeze breath/Blow breath, he forgets his fighting skills, he forgets about T-Vo, he forgets he can run at over lightspeed, he loses his bio aura, and by the way you guys explain it, he will just leans out his jaw, and lets Hulk have one good crack that somehow kills him...

Please, no one in this thread has given proof, or a reasonable explaination as to why Hulk will ever beat Superman, and every Hulk supporter in this thread that I have seen, has ignored every shred of evidence, and reason in here.
So if you actually think Hulk can beat him, then your going to have to start at this simple question:

How is Hulk going to hit him?

If you can't answer that, then back off.
That is also just the first question, and is a requirement for how Hulk will beat him.
If he can't hit him, then he can f*cking forget it.

Plus, Hulk is afraid of death, so why would he fight Superman?

So to illiterate:

Superman doesn't have to take one hit in this whole fight. Even if he does, he can take it... with ease.
Superman has other options than to go physical (the only chance Hulk has, which is still a no go), like, HV, freeze him and throwing him in space, T-Vo.
His physical options are also easy (again without taking a hit), punch him a thousand times repeatidly, keep hitting him while avoiding every attack to also take Hulk's confidence down, just take him to the sun, use a lot of his speed and focus up one big ass punch (if it doesn't KO him, it is going to bfr him), etc.

Hulk's options:
Punch him... 😐
That might be believable if Hulk could hit Spider-Man/Iron Fist, let alone Superman.

So no, Hulk CAN'T win, there was never any reason, and I probably won't ever see one.

Superman 10/10.

Great post. 👆

Originally posted by batdude123
Great post. 👆
Thanks. 😄

Originally posted by bigbran
OK... so Hulk could beat Doomsday, Darkseid, Dominus?

Hell whatever, T-Vo. There is absolutely no way that Hulk has any defense against that!
You can argue all you want against something that already made no sense, but Hulk has no defense what-so-ever against that!

Your logic makes no sense.

You only see a strength battle, but what you don't see is Superman's ability to speedblitz, go over lightspeed, super fast fighting reflexes, heat vision, freeze breath, duribility (that is enough to take a planet buster without him really knowing), he has actual fighting skills, etc.

If Superman doesn't go in for h2h, then he can just stand back and blow a hole through Hulk with his HV, or freeze him, and throw him into space, far, far away.
Superman can just speedblitz him, with his super strength and super speed.
Superman can just fly him to the sun, and Hulk is doing nothing.
Superman can also go h2h, and avoid every single attack, while beating his face in.
And if all else fails, T-Vo.

Superman has way to many options, while Hulk has one:

Superman forgets his ability to fly, he loses his super strength/super duribility, he forgets about his HV/Freeze breath/Blow breath, he forgets his fighting skills, he forgets about T-Vo, he forgets he can run at over lightspeed, he loses his bio aura, and by the way you guys explain it, he will just leans out his jaw, and lets Hulk have one good crack that somehow kills him...

Please, no one in this thread has given proof, or a reasonable explaination as to why Hulk will ever beat Superman, and every Hulk supporter in this thread that I have seen, has ignored every shred of evidence, and reason in here.
So if you actually think Hulk can beat him, then your going to have to start at this simple question:

How is Hulk going to hit him?

If you can't answer that, then back off.
That is also just the first question, and is a requirement for how Hulk will beat him.
If he can't hit him, then he can f*cking forget it.

Plus, Hulk is afraid of death, so why would he fight Superman?

So to illiterate:

Superman doesn't have to take one hit in this whole fight. Even if he does, he can take it... with ease.
Superman has other options than to go physical (the only chance Hulk has, which is still a no go), like, HV, freeze him and throwing him in space, T-Vo.
His physical options are also easy (again without taking a hit), punch him a thousand times repeatidly, keep hitting him while avoiding every attack to also take Hulk's confidence down, just take him to the sun, use a lot of his speed and focus up one big ass punch (if it doesn't KO him, it is going to bfr him), etc.

Hulk's options:
Punch him... 😐
That might be believable if Hulk could hit Spider-Man/Iron Fist, let alone Superman.

So no, Hulk CAN'T win, there was never any reason, and I probably won't ever see one.

Superman 10/10.

In other words:

Originally posted by bigbran

idiot supes isn't blowing a hole through hulk with heat vision he's taking far worse than that.

If Superman doesn't go in for h2h, then he can just stand back and blow a hole through Hulk with his HV, or freeze him, and throw him into space, far, far away.
Superman can just speedblitz him, with his super strength and super speed.
Superman can just fly him to the sun, and Hulk is doing nothing.
Superman can also go h2h, and avoid every single attack, while beating his face in.
And if all else fails, T-Vo.

Superman has way to many options, while Hulk has one:

Superman forgets his ability to fly, he loses his super strength/super duribility, he forgets about his HV/Freeze breath/Blow breath, he forgets his fighting skills, he forgets about T-Vo, he forgets he can run at over lightspeed, he loses his bio aura, and by the way you guys explain it, he will just leans out his jaw, and lets Hulk have one good crack that somehow kills him...

Please, no one in this thread has given proof, or a reasonable explaination as to why Hulk will ever beat Superman, and every Hulk supporter in this thread that I have seen, has ignored every shred of evidence, and reason in here.
So if you actually think Hulk can beat him, then your going to have to start at this simple question:

How is Hulk going to hit him?

If you can't answer that, then back off.
That is also just the first question, and is a requirement for how Hulk will beat him.
If he can't hit him, then he can f*cking forget it.

Plus, Hulk is afraid of death, so why would he fight Superman?

So to illiterate:

Superman doesn't have to take one hit in this whole fight. Even if he does, he can take it... with ease.
Superman has other options than to go physical (the only chance Hulk has, which is still a no go), like, HV, freeze him and throwing him in space, T-Vo.
His physical options are also easy (again without taking a hit), punch him a thousand times repeatidly, keep hitting him while avoiding every attack to also take Hulk's confidence down, just take him to the sun, use a lot of his speed and focus up one big ass punch (if it doesn't KO him, it is going to bfr him), etc.

Hulk's options:
Punch him... 😐
That might be believable if Hulk could hit Spider-Man/Iron Fist, let alone Superman.

So no, Hulk CAN'T win, there was never any reason, and I probably won't ever see one.

Superman 10/10.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
In other words:

what idiocy here, i could well post pics where Pre Crisis Superman admits no one sane would fight the hulk or when he has been sent to Saturn by hulk's punch....or when narration says : the results of the match is in dubt because hulk's punches are getting stronger and stronger

Superman moves himself because he can't survive hulk's punches increasing pression.

Even a retard knows it

Originally posted by xmeat
Did you only answer one question?
Anyway, I know he has survived worse, but he will be hurt if he gets a hole blown through his chest, will he not? Will Supes not sieze the oppurtunity?
If he gets a hole blown through his chest, it's pretty self explanitory of what is going to happen next.
He will either fall (not Hulk's case).
Or he will recieve a savage beating.

Supes isn't just going to watch him heal.
He will get in there and put him down.

Plus, when has Hulk had worse then getting a big hole shot right through him, and still been battle ready?

I'm sure he could do this, but when has he survived worse, and still been ready to fight without going down?
Just name an instance and it might get me to shut up.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
what idiocy here, i could well post pics where Pre Crisis Superman admits no one sane would fight the hulk or when he has been sent to Saturn by hulk's punch....or when narration says : the results of the match is in dubt because hulk's punches are getting stronger and stronger

Superman moves himself because he can't survive hulk's punches increasing pression.

Even a retard knows it

You do realize that, that whole story was non-canon? Eh whatever.

Originally posted by bigbran
Did you only answer one question?
Anyway, I know he has survived worse, but he will be hurt if he gets a hole blown through his chest, will he not? Will Supes not sieze the oppurtunity?
If he gets a hole blown through his chest, it's pretty self explanitory of what is going to happen next.
He will either fall (not Hulk's case).
Or he will recieve a savage beating.

Supes isn't just going to watch him heal.
He will get in there and put him down.

Plus, when has Hulk had worse then getting a big hole shot right through him, and still been battle ready?

I'm sure he could do this, but when has he survived worse, and still been ready to fight without going down?
Just name an instance and it might get me to shut up.
when wolverine sliced grey hulk with his claws logan thought he was finished but grey hulk healed quite quickly. I could also tell you how hulk regenerated from a mere skeleton as well.
You do realize that, that whole story was non-canon? Eh whatever.

When wolverine sliced grey hulk open with his claws logan thought he was finished but grey hulk regenerated quite fast. I could also tell you hulk healed from a near skeleton.

Hulk 10/10

Hulk is far to strong to be beaten, and his healing factor should allow him to heal from anything Superman can put out.

Originally posted by Magnus Lensher
sooo can someone tell me why this fight is going on?.....i mean by now hulk has lost and superman i layin back watchin tv untill the next big fight 😎

i agree 😖hifty:

After receiving that first punch Supes declared that it was time to lay down the law and got tossed into orbit. He was not just trying to calm him down, he was fighting. And the Hulk on the other hand wanted to be left alone and was simply fighting Supes off. Heck, Supes attacked him from behind before getting tossed.

Supes was complaining about Hulk's speed throughout the fight. Why would he be doing that if he was not trying to keep up with Hulk's speed. That was not a case of being the only time that he used superspeed, it was a case of countering Hulk when Hulk tossed the missiles at him.

Plus Eddie Berganza staed that characters like Mongul can overcome Superman's speed with their overwelming strength. The same applies to the Hulk.The point is that Mongul Jr. does pose a challenge for Supes despite Superspeed, and Berganza's explaination is that strength can overwelm speed enough to close the gap. At least according to comic book science.

You guys constantly say "what if Supes throws a trillion punches in one second" etc. etc. without considering that the laws of comics have established that superspeedsters don't necessarily overwhelm powerful non-speedsters. There are years of continuity to support this. Why else does Flash catch hell against Grod?

If Superman moved the moon The gray HULK once shattered a plane that was gonig to crash with earth(MCP#52:Grey Hulk,with a single punch,shattters an asteroid 2x the size of the earth!)

This is another thing. Doomsday(which is a Hulk rip off whether people want to admit it or not) KILLED Superman. You would think that Superman would use all his powers(God knows he has so many) to beat a beast like that but he didn't. That is why I think that the fight would be.

As for flying, Superman could try and fly Hulk into outer space, but, like Doomsday, Hulk could break free when up in the air and probably would and i remember where Hulk was fighting Gladiator(he on the same level as supes), and he tried to fly Hulk into space, and Hulk did a thunderclap with gladiator's head between his hands.
And don't forget, the Hulk has fought enemies who can fly, and the Hulk has beaten them too, just like the fast enemies. As for the DC vs Marvel, it was fan picked and if the fans had picked Hulk to win, then sure enough Hulk would have beaten Superman.

plus, hulk would stomp the crap out of superman because :

1 madder = stronger no known limit (dynamic strenght + healing factor - the best ever in MU)
2 supes has trouble with big guys: doomsday, grundy
3 hulk beat gladiator
4 hulks healing power is arguably the best in the marvel universe
5 hulk is a relentless engine of destruction

(1)With unlimited strength, Hulk is potentially stronger than Supes. Hell, Hulk is potentially stronger than anyone, period.

Why? According to HULK THE INCREDIBLE GUIDE, Hulk can grow strong enough to conquer any opponent as there seems to be no limit to his strength. So, yes, there probably is no limit to Hulk's strength and therefore he can get stronger than Superman.

"NRAMA: There’s always that old joke about who would win in a fight between Superman and the Hulk. But can that be explained with science?

JK: From a physics point of view, I would go with the Hulk for the following reasons: the angrier he gets, the stronger he’s going to get. There’s even an explanation for this because as he’s getting frustrated there’s more adrenaline pumping in his system, so that’s a trigger for increase in his strength and if he keeps pounding on Superman until it was nighttime then Superman won’t be soaking up any solar radiation and he starts getting a little weaker. So I think eventually the Hulk might win that one, but that’s purely from a science point of view, not from a fan point of view.