Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This is just soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Rediculous. As if the hulk could ever even tag Superman. What would hulk do if superman vibrated his hand thru the top portion of hulk's head? Thus severing his brain from his body. No regeneration from death.

I have a question for you never. Can a character entire career, existence, be pis. Im asking lets say if i created a character that had super strength but lets say this character last as long as 40 years and in each comic he is getting own and humiliated by humans, would that be pis.

Originally posted by carver9
I have a question for you never. Can a character entire career, existence, be pis. Im asking lets say if i created a character that had super strength but lets say this character last as long as 40 years and in each comic he is getting own and humiliated by humans, would that be pis.

Originally posted by JasonK4
Yes.

I dont think that its pis. If it has happened his entire career then that should state that its within a human ability to beat this guy, not saying that every human should be able to do so but there are some that can.

If something has happened so many times, it shouldnt be counted as pis, especially if it has happened the entire time that the character has been published.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think that its pis. If it has happened his entire career then that should state that its within a human ability to beat this guy, not saying that every human should be able to do so but there are some that can.

If something has happened so many times, it shouldnt be counted as pis, especially if it has happened the entire time that the character has been published.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What would hulk do if superman vibrated his hand thru the top portion of hulk's head?

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Don't ask questions you already know the answer to then.

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understood. I just wanted to see what others thought about the question. The reason I brought this up is because superman, wonderwoman, etc... has been hit by people in hulks caliber, have even been defeated by people in hulks caliber. This has been happening since the beginning of superman. Hulk defeated precrisis superman. People seem to make superman into a fantasy that he just aint. They picture superman doing all of these things that he fail to do and probably aint within his power to do.

His entire career superman has showed combat speed like 3 or 4 times. Thats not enough for a character that has been out more than 50 years. Superman has been trounced on, defeated, humiliated by lesser, slower beings then the hulk BUT fans want to change what happens in comics and make superman into a dragonball z character when he just aint. Superman havent displayed anything to even make me think that he can even fight close to krillin caliber.

Like I said before, hulk has a chance of hitting superman and have a chance of defeating superman. When superman pulled out some tricks that even son goku off of regular dragonball cant do then maybe I would think that he wont be touched by hulk, until then superman gets the majority 6/10.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk defeated precrisis superman.

Hulk never defeated any version of Superman,ever.......... ever...

EVER...

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No.

Originally posted by JasonK4
Hulk never defeated any version of Superman,ever.......... ever...

EVER...

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No.

Well you might need to look at there 1st fight, superman got his a** handed to him. Second time they met superman got thrown into space.

superman 10/10

Originally posted by carver9

The reason I brought this up is because superman, wonderwoman, etc... has been hit by people in hulks caliber, have even been defeated by people in hulks caliber.

Give me examples and then give me issue numbers so that I know you're not taking things out of context, like you always do.

Originally posted by carver9
:This has been happening since the beginning of superman.

And he gets stronger as time progresses due to absorbing more and more solar energy. For example, in the late 80s, during one of his first Post-Crisis comics Superman was knocked out for 30 minutes by a 30 Megaton Nuclear Explosion. During the recent Back in Action storyline Superman took an explosion that would have split the Earth in half without suffering any serious damage.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk defeated precrisis superman.

Learn the difference between what’s cannon and not cannon, and then you might want to take a look at the rules.

Originally posted by carver9
People seem to make superman into a fantasy that he just aint. They picture superman doing all of these things that he fail to do and probably aint within his power to do.

Pure bullshit.

Several members here can name over a 100 characters that would defeat Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
His entire career superman has showed combat speed like 3 or 4 times.

I'd say the same thing if I rarely read any Superman comics.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats not enough for a character that has been out more than 50 years.

Post-Crisis Superman hasn't been around for 50 years.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman has been trounced on, defeated, humiliated by lesser, slower beings then the hulk

Examples and issue numbers.

Originally posted by carver9
BUT fans want to change what happens in comics and make superman into a dragonball z character when he just aint.

Bring Dragonball into this, troll.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman havent displayed anything to even make me think that he can even fight close to krillin caliber.

I'm sorry that comics don't have the kind of flashy animation that makes you think people are fighting at FTL speeds.

But seriously, drop the Dragonball shit, it has nothing to do with this thread.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before, hulk has a chance of hitting superman and have a chance of defeating superman.

If Superman fights like an idiot, which just so happens to be against forum rules.

Originally posted by carver9
When superman pulled out some tricks that even son goku off of regular dragonball cant do then maybe I would think that he wont be touched by hulk

Go read some comic instead of talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by carver9
Well you might need to look at there 1st fight, superman got his a** handed to him. Second time they met superman got thrown into space.

In their first appearance together Superman took Hulk’s punches without moving. That was in one of the Spider-Man/Superman crossovers.

Never bothered reading the Superman/Hulk crossover in which Superman is flung into Outer Space.

But I don’t understand why you keep bringing up things that are not cannon.

Originally posted by carver9
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understood. I just wanted to see what others thought about the question. The reason I brought this up is because superman, wonderwoman, etc... has been hit by people in hulks caliber, have even been defeated by people in hulks caliber. This has been happening since the beginning of superman. Hulk defeated precrisis superman. People seem to make superman into a fantasy that he just aint. They picture superman doing all of these things that he fail to do and probably aint within his power to do.

His entire career superman has showed combat speed like 3 or 4 times. Thats not enough for a character that has been out more than 50 years. Superman has been trounced on, defeated, humiliated by lesser, slower beings then the hulk BUT fans want to change what happens in comics and make superman into a dragonball z character when he just aint. Superman havent displayed anything to even make me think that he can even fight close to krillin caliber.

Like I said before, hulk has a chance of hitting superman and have a chance of defeating superman. When superman pulled out some tricks that even son goku off of regular dragonball cant do then maybe I would think that he wont be touched by hulk, until then superman gets the majority 6/10.

What's with all the lying man? Superman shows his combat speed in a good proportion of comics he has ever appeared in (at least 1/3). What comics have you been reading? Or should I say, what have you been smoking? Everyone and their mama knows Superman is fast as hell. He is much much faster than Hulk.

And where do you get off saying that Superman has been defeated by someone in Hulk's calibur? Never my son! (Unless it was by krytonite).
And writers are sometimes stupid. Everyone knows that. Why did onslaught pull a gem that doesn't exist out of Juggs chest? Why is spiderman able to dodge bullets and lasers like a dayjob but get hit by guys like rhino? Why did Hulk get Koed (at least twice by one punch) many times in his career by physical force?

Forum fights are not comic fights. We assume that each character will fight with the best of their abilities (forum rules). That means each character uses their high showings as the gauge unless it is PIS or unless similar other feats are low in number.

I mean it is moot anyway to say that Superman will win by beating the crap outta Hulk. For superman can win merely by BFRing Hulk to space.
How's Hulk going to get outta that?

To all Hulk fans:
If I were Superman and you were Hulk then do you think I can beat you everytime?

If you were Superman and I was Hulk then do you think you can beat me everytime?

Be honest now!

Originally posted by Rorschach
Give me examples and then give me issue numbers so that I know you're not taking things out of context, like you always do.

And he gets stronger as time progresses due to absorbing more and more solar energy. For example, in the late 80s, during one of his first Post-Crisis comics Superman was knocked out for 30 minutes by a 30 Megaton Nuclear Explosion. During the recent Back in Action storyline Superman took an explosion that would have split the Earth in half without suffering any serious damage.

Learn the difference between what’s cannon and not cannon, and then you might want to take a look at the rules.

Pure bullshit.

Several members here can name over a 100 characters that would defeat Superman.

I'd say the same thing if I rarely read any Superman comics.

Post-Crisis Superman hasn't been around for 50 years.

Examples and issue numbers.

Bring Dragonball into this, troll.

I'm sorry that comics don't have the kind of flashy animation that makes you think people are fighting at FTL speeds.

But seriously, drop the Dragonball shit, it has nothing to do with this thread.

If Superman fights like an idiot, which just so happens to be against forum rules.

Go read some comic instead of talking out of your ass.

you are hilarious, you find me every time. Any post I make of superman, you find out. How in the hell do you do that, back on topic.

That same superman that got hit by that nuke also recently got one shotted by despero, ripped up by equus, knock out temporarily by a blast by gog. Got handled by a wonderwoman that was holding back. Was stated by eclipso that he could be one shotted by captain marvel.

Well it seems like every time superman fights someone from marvel he gets owned. Fought spiderman that had red solar energy around his body (that only helped spiderman punches work on superman, nothing more, nothing less) owned superman, he actually humiliated superman. Superman fought venom and got humiliated quite easily. Superman fought jean grey (none phoenix jean grey) and got manhandled, I guess crossovers is a bad thing for superman since marvel low tiers be whipping his a**. Lets not forget about hulk owning him also.

Do you think that nova can beat hulk also; he has the ability to speed blitz (but has never done so his entire career.). So basically anyone with sufficient speed and strength can beat the hulk huh. I kind of dont agree with that since a lot of characters have found ways of circling around that.

To bad I do read superman comics that shows him being manhandle by brutes.

I can give you examples of superman loosing or getting owned by brutes. He lost a couple of battles against lobo (no kind of super speed), lost to mongul (no kind of superspeed), lost to despero along with the rest of the jla (no kind of superspeed). Got his a** handed to him by a amped solomon grundy that still didnt have a speed increase. Almost got killed by kalibak. Darkseid, that havent shown me yet that he has any kind of speed. The lis goes On, on, and on.

I brought dragonball up because for some strange reason people seem to think that he fights like that when he dont. If this helps Ill just bring up YuYu then, does that make you feel better.

Well I guess that the people above fight faster than light huh. I would like for you to show me a issue where it is saying that superman is fighting faster than light or even faster than sound. Naah, I can make it a little easier for you, show me a issue where it says that superman is fighting faster then a speeding bullet. Watch you bring up a scan and try and use caculations that just aint true.

I guess superman entire career he has been fighting like an idiot. I thought superman was smart, well I guess he's marked as a complete idiot.

My ass must have a lot of knowledge.

Originally posted by h1a8
What's with all the lying man? Superman shows his combat speed in a good proportion of comics he has ever appeared in (at least 1/3). What comics have you been reading? Or should I say, what have you been smoking? Everyone and their mama knows Superman is fast as hell. He is much much faster than Hulk.

And where do you get off saying that Superman has been defeated by someone in Hulk's calibur? Never my son! (Unless it was by krytonite).
And writers are sometimes stupid. Everyone knows that. Why did onslaught pull a gem that doesn't exist out of Juggs chest? Why is spiderman able to dodge bullets and lasers like a dayjob but get hit by guys like rhino? Why did Hulk get Koed (at least twice by one punch) many times in his career by physical force?

Forum fights are not comic fights. We assume that each character will fight with the best of their abilities (forum rules). That means each character uses their high showings as the gauge unless it is PIS or unless similar other feats are low in number.

I mean it is moot anyway to say that Superman will win by beating the crap outta Hulk. For superman can win merely by BFRing Hulk to space.
How's Hulk going to get outta that?

Youre right on some cases, superman does have the ability to bfr people but I have always seen superman as someone who instead fights his opponents.

You almost fail to realize that spiderman has also been shot by bullets, just ask the punisher. Bullets dont come with skills whereas rhino and other beings that fight spiderman has the ability to move in different directions and use objects against spiderman. By the way, I never said that superman wasnt fast, rogue is fast, nova is fast, theres a lot of beings out there that is fast but they still lose and majority of them have lost to brutes due to the fact that they dont know how to use there speed in ways that people dream of them using it.

I agree with you, superman gets the majority but Im going as far as 6/10 because I know for a fact that hulk can take almost anything that superman can throw out AND hulk has the ability to hit superman unlike the SUPERMAN fans think that he cant do.

Originally posted by carver9
That same superman that got hit by that nuke also recently got one shotted by despero

By recently did you mean 2-4 years ago? Because that's the last time Despero easily took out Superman. In the same comic he was taking on the JSA and the JLA at the same time.

In Despero's latest appearance he was taken out by one blast of heat vision.

Originally posted by carver9
ripped up by equus

He claws were magical so he could cut Superman. He never gave Superman any serious trouble.

Originally posted by carver9
knock out temporarily by a blast by gog.

Gog from the Kingdom never knocked out Post-Crisis Superman. The other Gog took Superman out after injecting Knite into him.

Originally posted by carver9
Got handled by a wonderwoman that was holding back.

Got handled?

Superman was winning that fight. He healed in seconds after the fight was over.

Originally posted by carver9
Was stated by eclipso that he could be one shotted by captain marvel.

Captain Marvel has only one shot Superman once, and this was when Superman was taken by surprise. Another time Captain Marvel had to land two sucker punches in order to take Superman out. In their other fights neither of them have knocked out each other with just one punch.

Captain Marvel has even admitted that he has an advantage over Superman because of magic.

Originally posted by carver9
Well it seems like every time superman fights someone from marvel he gets owned.

Crossovers don't count.

Originally posted by carver9
Fought spiderman that had red solar energy around his body (that only helped spiderman punches work on superman, nothing more, nothing less) owned superman, he actually humiliated superman.

Wrong.

Red solar energy drains Superman's powers. In that fight Superman was about to punch Spider-Man when he realized that the punch would kill Spider-Man. He pulled his punch but the wind generated from the punch sent Spider-Man through some windows. Afterwards Spider-Man bruised his knuckles while trying to hurt Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman fought venom and got humiliated quite easily.

Which is pure PIS.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman fought jean grey (none phoenix jean grey) and got manhandled

Don't remember this.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess crossovers is a bad thing for superman since marvel low tiers be whipping his a**. Lets not forget about hulk owning him also.

It's not all bad.

Superman took Hulk's punches without even moving in the Spider-Man/Superman crossover.

He beat Thor in JLA/Avengers.

He knocked down Juggernaut in Marvel Vs. DC.

He beat Professor Hulk in Marvel Vs. DC.

Originally posted by carver9
he has the ability to speed blitz (but has never done so his entire career.).

Well, Nova isn't Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
So basically anyone with sufficient speed and strength can beat the hulk huh.

If they use their speed effectively? Yes.

Originally posted by carver9
I kind of dont agree with that since a lot of characters have found ways of circling around that.

I don't even what you mean by this. Lots of characters have beaten Hulk without the need of super-speed, is that what you're trying to say?

Originally posted by carver9
To bad I do read superman comics that shows him being manhandle by brutes.

Then give me some issue numbers. You claim you read Superman comics so you must be able to provide issue numbers.

Originally posted by carver9
I can give you examples of superman loosing or getting owned by brutes.

Also give me the issue numbers.

Originally posted by carver9
He lost a couple of battles against lobo (no kind of super speed)

Provide the issue number. Pretty much evey Lobo Vs. Superman fight I've read ends in a stalemate.

Originally posted by carver9
lost to mongul (no kind of superspeed),

When did Post-Crisis Superman ever lose to Mongul?

Originally posted by carver9
lost to despero along with the rest of the jla (no kind of superspeed).

Despero is a team wrecker. You make it seem like losing to him is a shameful thing.

Originally posted by carver9
Got his a** handed to him by a amped solomon grundy that still didnt have a speed increase.

And when the hell did this happen? Sounds like that episode of JLU.

Originally posted by carver9
Almost got killed by kalibak.

Superman manhandles Kalibak these days.

Originally posted by carver9
Darkseid, that havent shown me yet that he has any kind of speed.

Evil_Ash posted a scan where Darkseid and Highfather showed a degree of super-speed.

Originally posted by carver9
The lis goes On, on, and on.

So far you've given me less than 10 names.

Originally posted by carver9
I brought dragonball up because for some strange reason people seem to think that he fights like that when he dont.

Superman fights at high-speeds. He just doesn't do it all the time.

Originally posted by carver9
If this helps Ill just bring up YuYu then, does that make you feel better.

Not it doesn't because it has nothing to with this thread.

Originally posted by carver9
Well I guess that the people above fight faster than light huh.

It just means Superman was utilizing his speed when he was fighting against them, and against some of them it wouldn't really matter.

Originally posted by carver9
I would like for you to show me a issue where it is saying that superman is fighting faster than light or even faster than sound.

Naah, I can make it a little easier for you, show me a issue where it says that superman is fighting faster then a speeding bullet.

Wonder Woman v2 226. Superman and Wonder Woman's fight last almost 2 minutes. During this fight they travel to the Sun and back. It takes light 8 minutes to get from the Earth to the Sun.

If you're not a complete retard you should be able to figure out that they were moving faster than light.

Action Comics 775

Superman battles Manchester Black's Elite at Mach 4.

Superman The Odyssey 01

A Young Clark Kent defeats a Chinese army. During the whole "fight" he was moving so fast that he appears to be invisible. He did this again in the very same comic.

Superman v2 216

Eclipso possesed Superman punches Captain Marvel from Metropolis to Hawaii. A Sonic boom was heard over Hawaii. The fight then takes them to the Arctic.

In a JLA comic he was fighting someone around the world in the span of a few sentences. I'm not sure what the comic was except that it was part of the Obsidian Age storyline, which means it could be from issue JLA 069 - JLA 075.

Originally posted by carver9
Watch you bring up a scan and try and use caculations that just aint true.

If someone gets to a certain place faster than light, it means that person was moving faster than light. It's very simple.

Originally posted by carver9
I guess superman entire career he has been fighting like an idiot.

Post-Crisis Superman has appeared in over 2000 comics and so far you've mentioned less than ten people without super-speed who have beaten him.

You also didn't provide any issue numbers.

Originally posted by carver9
I thought superman was smart, well I guess he's marked as a complete idiot.

At KMC characters fight at their best.

Originally posted by carver9
My ass must have a lot of knowledge.

It's full of shit, as it should be.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This is just soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Rediculous. As if the hulk could ever even tag Superman. What would hulk do if superman vibrated his hand thru the top portion of hulk's head? Thus severing his brain from his body. No regeneration from death.

For one , Superman would get the living hell Hell beat out of him If he tried that with a issed Hulk...and 2 its out of character. Superman in truth sucks as a fighter period. His only strengths comes from his powers...on multiple occasion whenever he has lost them he cant hold his own against regular people whatsoever. The fact is that Kents scrapping ability sucks. He just isnt that sort of hero people keep trying to make him....Im talking about BS like "flying people into the sun" and vibrating into people's head and chests.

Kent only would try that as a last resort against enemies...and by that time Hulk would completely >>>>>>>>Superman in Damage potential and Durability.

Secondly we dont know HOW long it takes for Hulk to get angry enough to match Superman...but regenerating from Banner getting a bullet to the skull is pretty fast.

As far as regenerating from death being PIS - yeah Superman has done that.... but death is still thats technically a lose situation...for both superman and doomsday, whether they came back or not, they still died due to exhaustion and physical damage.

Never happened to Hulk.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
For one , Superman would get the living hell Hell beat out of him If he tried that with a issed Hulk...and 2 its out of character. Superman in truth sucks as a fighter period. His only strengths comes from his powers...on multiple occasion whenever he has lost them he cant hold his own against regular people whatsoever. The fact is that Kents scrapping ability sucks. He just isnt that sort of hero people keep trying to make him....Im talking about BS like "flying people into the sun" and vibrating into people's head and chests.

Kent only would try that as a last resort against enemies...and by that time Hulk would completely >>>>>>>>Superman in Damage potential and Durability.

Secondly we dont know HOW long it takes for Hulk to get angry enough to match Superman...but regenerating from Banner getting a bullet to the skull is pretty fast.

As far as regenerating from death being PIS - yeah Superman has done that.... but death is still thats technically a lose situation...for both superman and doomsday, whether they came back or not, they still died due to exhaustion and physical damage.

Never happened to Hulk.

Huc is angry!!

Hulk 0/10, with PIS, CIS 5/10