Superman vs. Hulk

SHUT UP! Hulk will SMASH!
I agree, with toughguy, though he should work on his typing; if your going to battle two universes put them on a level playing field. If goko, or whatever the hell his name is from Faggotball Z came to DC universe on their power levels, he'd wipe his ass with Superman. It's only fair to put the two universes at even power levels (DC's best stat = Marvel's best stat) This way Hulk would be stronger, but I don't know if that would be enough to make him win. Superman would be allowed to fly and all that, but he couldn't go around blowing out stars and doing gay shit like that in Marvel Universe. I'm pretty sure If DC made Hulk, he would probably do stupid shit too, like drink oceans, or some other gay shit DC heroes do. The two universes shouldn't even battle IMO. DC's characters are just too unrealistic. Marvel is written for a more mature audience.

Superman can knock out Hulk with just a few punches and Hulk is just of course layed on his back with his eye mouth wide open like in the comics as always.

yeah, right. Hulk is the most durable person in Marvel, right next to Juggy. Superman would be in for the fight of his life.

You can not alter characters powers to do a vs match.

Hulk is the most durable person in Marvel, right next to Juggy

This isnt true.

Who is more durable?

I didn't say powers, clickclick.

Hulk is just as strong, if not stronger than Superman; and if he wasn't, he could become stronger than him long before Superman could knock him out. Hulk is just as durable, if not more durable than Doomsday. He is also just as fast as Doomsday. Hulk can also jump way farther than Doomsday. If Hulk is 'killed', he will regenerate angrier, stronger, and more durable than before. His regeneration is more powerful than any other Marvel character. Speedfreek once carved the flesh off of Hulk's bones and severed them. Hulk regenerated and kicked his ass. Superman would be in for the fight of his life, and would probably die afterwards, like he did against Doomsday. Superman is overrated.

The only reason Superman wins polls and crossovers is because he is more popular, and few people know of Hulk's true power. Most people just assume that Superman is stronger. If you compare comic book feats, Hulk is definately stronger.

Yirst you were saying that its not on a level playing field and these matches shouldnt happen. Now you are saying that the hulk should really win. The hulk isnt stronger than superman, its that he has the potential to be but it would take a long time. The thing is this though, ultimately it doesnt matter how strong the hulk is because Superman has too many capabilities and powers for him.

We know hulks true power, I dont know why you have trouble accepting that he loses. Whats the big deal?

he could become stronger than him long before Superman could knock him out. Hulk is just as durable, if not more durable than Doomsday. He is also just as fast as Doomsday. Hulk can also jump way farther than Doomsday. If Hulk is 'killed', he will regenerate angrier, stronger, and more durable than before. His regeneration is more powerful than any other Marvel character. Speedfreek once carved the flesh off of Hulk's bones and severed them. Hulk regenerated and kicked his ass. Superman would be in for the fight of his life, and would probably die afterwards, like he did against Doomsday. Superman is overrated.

How can the hulk knock somebody out when hed already be koed? Superman would have already won. Hulk also can not knock somebody out who just thrash and or killed him. He can not knock somebody out who is too fast for him to even hit.

No, Doomsday has superspeed like Supes does. Hulk is not as fast as Doomsday. If hulk gets killed for real, he will die. He doesnt regenerate more durable or stronger either.

Doomsday is not hulk, Doomsday is at least as durable as Hulk, id say more though.

Even if you didnt say powers, there are still characters that are far more durable than hulk or juggs.

Slow down your typing a bit, you're getting ahead of yourself.

How strong is Superman clickclick? Can you prove he is stronger than Hulk? Can you prove that it takes Hulk a "long time" to get stronger?

No. Of course you can't. You haven't proven anything.

Doomsday's superspeed is comparable to Hulk's. It is nowhere near Superman's.
http://www.supermansupersite.com/doomsday.html

When did I say Hulk would knock out Superman? Read my post again, and slowly this time. Hulk doesn't regenerate stronger? Have you read any recent Hulk comics? And what Marvel character is "far more durable" than Hulk or Juggernaut? Can you support any of your arguements?

Take a look at this site, and tell me who's more durable.

http://marvel.com/universe/index.htm

cosmic u r right on track, much as it is stupid for dc and marvel to battle remember that hulk as a character was created to have the potential to beat anyone due to his unlimited strength and anger, fine we know he doesnt all the time, thats comics, yet he was created as the 1 guy that is potentially able to smash, lift, hurt , move , stop anything as he is limitless

That still doesn't insure victory. Toughguy. I still think Superman could win, but not under the idiotic pretenses stated by clickclick and some others. Superman would never knock out Hulk in one or two blows, It would be a battle to the finish, Hulk growing stronger and stronger. All the while Superman would have to strategize, using his superior intellegence. If he's sucessful in exploiting Hulks weaknesses (such as his stupidity, which wouldn't be too hard, being that he can fly near lightspeed, and has supersonic landspeed) Superman wins. If he slips up and lets a really pissed off Hulk grab him, it's going to be a KO. But that's up to the writers. Hulk is stronger and just as (if not more) durable, but Superman is way more versatile.

How strong is Superman clickclick? Can you prove he is stronger than Hulk? Can you prove that it takes Hulk a "long time" to get stronger?

No. Of course you can't. You haven't proven anything.

Doomsday's superspeed is comparable to Hulk's. It is nowhere near Superman's.

Pick up a superman comic if you dont know how strong he is. Hulk has to get very very angry and it would take a long time to get there. Even that crossover showed this but of course you would dismiss it then bring up a poorly written comic in the next breath. Doomsaday's speed isnt that of Superman but it doesnt mean its that of hulk.

I think these concepts are lost on you.

much as it is stupid for dc and marvel to battle remember that hulk as a character was created to have the potential to beat anyone due to his unlimited strength and anger

. I still think Superman could win, but not under the idiotic pretenses stated by clickclick and some others. Superman would never knock out Hulk in one or two blows, It would be a battle to the finish, Hulk growing stronger and stronger. All the while Superman would have to strategize, using his superior intellegence. If he's sucessful in exploiting Hulks weaknesses

If you find it idiotic its because you arent intelligent enough to grasp it. I didnt say that superman would end hulk in one blow but it matters not because he could land an incredible amount in succession and continue that. Superman would be numerous steps ahead of hulk. Unless you are suggesting that he doesnt use all his powers.

Hulk does not have the potential to beat anyone either.

As to who is more durable than hulk or juggs, how about Tyrant or Thanos for starters?

Juggernaut was almost killed by onslaught and nimrod, you think that could happen to either of them? I dont even need to get into the times that hulk has been beat.

Cosmic Cube: Although I disagree on the hulk grabbing Superman for the KO victory(Superman isn't that weak and besides I don't see him getting knocked unconscious just from one simple grab).It takes a helluva lot more than a simple grab from a "strong guy" to KO Kal-EL.

But your assumption of this being a long, lengthy, Doomsday'ish battle sounds reasonable. Maybe the fight could go either way if both sides participate in a back and forth miniature scuffle.But, in a long, thought-out battle Superman's versatility reigns supreme, he WILL indeed exploit hulk's weakness and in the end "somehow" score a victory(like he does 90% of the time) BUT it wouldn't be easy, he would leave this battle scarred, bruised and remembering the big green guys power.

Tough Guy: I can't come to an understanding of your assumption at all, if dc decides to "overpower" their characters its their choice as its marvels to make their characters powers more realistic and relatable. I really don't understand "leveling" out their powers, that's what differientiates the two companys in my opinion. The keyword here is "toning down", by saying that alone you are admitting that Superman is depicted by his company as stronger than the Hulk is in his company, which is the point that we're arguing.Face it, dc does "cheesily" overpower their characters, we all know that and come to terms with that and must accept the fact that a seemingly cheesy, goody two-shoes, perfect-portrayed Super-hero(Superman) is made-out to defeat the hulk.

Besides although their first fight was fan-voted, they had another in 1999 which wasn't fan voted and was written by both DC/Marvel. The hulk won the first scuffle after Superman admits he "underestimated" the big green guy, the second round Superman pounds the hulk back right before they team up and take on Luthor.

hell sarkastic please read and UNDERSTAND my posts. im saying hulk was written to be the one character to have the potential to beat anyone, hence unlimited strength, it leaves writers the ability to have hulk deal with whatever is in his path. now i know surfer sucked out his gamma etc, i dont hink supes has this power, so u have to see that hulk CAN be written to have strength so strong supes super strength is irrelevant,, now are lazer eyes, or freeze breath gonna help, ? no! super speed yes if your punches are gonna dammage hulk. well heres the second bit, hulk heals better actualy gets more durable the angrier he gets so again can be quite logically written to be almost impervious to supes. thats what im saying, hulk as a character can quite easily be written ( and stay within the bounds of him as a character) to beat supes, or tie ( as i remember their fights ending)

Tough Guy: What do you mean Superman's strength is going to appear "irrelevant", or you insane? Superman's strength applied with his superior logic always were fatal factors in deciding his victories. In the past Superman's strength "never" appeared irrelevant(he stood up, unphased from a direct hulk blow, his strength is definately going to count for something), now add superior speed, superior intellect, superior versatility, superior abilities and you have "DC's most powerful commodity"...

You're designing this battle, in your eyes, in hulks favor, first you state that they should weaken DC's heroes and make them more "realistic" just so guys like hulk have the advantage because of the infinite power factor while no other hero has that..And, I have news for you, Superman was written out to be "the most perfect superhero", the strongest of all heroes and designed to overcome "any" obstacle(even time) which is why THEY had to tone him down because his character was so "priveledged" so to speak and he's STILL on top of the heap..

You hulk fans can use the infinite strength factor all you want but like I said before, you get a mindless beast whom's growing strength depends on his blinded rage versus a logical thinking, just as strong, more passive and calculate and more versatile opponent and WHO would you think would win in do or die circumstances? Hulk's beaten alot of foes in slugfest matches but when it comes down to "fight conscious, battle tactics and strategy's" Superman outclasses the green guy tenfold and thats a fact....You say, make a comic where they are all even, I say do what they did before(In the Avengers vs JLA crossover, the hulk/Superman 1999 crossover, the Superman vs Spiderman crossover, the Batman/Punisher etc. etc.)bring the incredibly strong heroes from DC vs the realistically strong heroes from Marvel..

Please someone wipe out the fanboys.
Hulk lose.Now you'll try to put out reasons for Hulk's victory like Hulk can emit kryptonite farts, or emit kryptonite radiations with his breath or you'll write a scenario where Supes is blocked by kryptonite chains under red sun radiations.

I find it funny that a hulk fan is complaining about 'unrealistic powers'

THE HULK HAS UNLIMITED STRENGTH, he vioalates their own complaint. They are so baised.

exactly...........

This is a horrible VS thread, its gonna go off just like Hulk VS Juggey, LETS STOP NOW...
Its HORRIBLY ovbious Superman would win.