Originally posted by -Pr-
Just Hulk's. You sort of need to look at the opponent's panels too, you know.
What's up Pr? Good to have ya back.
What I am saying is, Superman (Thor as well Rage) has never faced anyone of this Magnitude physically and the ones that he faced that were close to this type of power, it didn't turn out to well for him.
Originally posted by carver9
What's up Pr? Good to have ya back.What I am saying is, Superman (Thor as well Rage) has never faced anyone of this Magnitude physically and the ones that he faced that were close to this type of power, it didn't turn out to well for him.
And you'd be wrong.
Besides, they've faced people more powerful than Hulk and been fine, so there is that...
Originally posted by Diesldude
Superman doesn't need to speed blitz the hulk. He raises the dial and one shot him. Hulk can't get angrier if he is knocked out can he? Even if supes toys with him, hulk being a human has a limit to his emotional spectrum and can never approach superman's strenght, cause its not humanly possible. :-) This post was for our buddy carver.
You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about. Hulk has no limits to his anger. Who keeps him in check is Bruce Banner's subconcious influence. Hulk has no limits whatsoever to his rage. And he is NOT some dragonball z character that needs to charge up his rage either.
Consistent showings also demonstrate he has insane durability and insane regeneration. Hulk can and will tank Superman's blows. And because he has no rage limits he has no strength, durability or regeneration limits as they have been shown to be all ties to his rage.
Originally posted by -Pr-
And you'd be wrong.Besides, they've faced people more powerful than Hulk and been fine, so there is that...
So I can ignore Hulk breaking the physical manifestation of Onslaught with one punch after Onslaught pinned him down because his rage made him flip out. An Obslaught was considered to be at a god-like level.
Originally posted by IssacFrost
You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about. Hulk has no limits to his anger. Who keeps him in check is Bruce Banner's subconcious influence. Hulk has no limits whatsoever to his rage. And he is NOT some dragonball z character that needs to charge up his rage either.Consistent showings also demonstrate he has insane durability and insane regeneration. Hulk can and will tank Superman's blows. And because he has no rage limits he has no strength, durability or regeneration limits as they have been shown to be all ties to his rage.
So I can ignore Hulk breaking the physical manifestation of Onslaught with one punch after Onslaught pinned him down because his rage made him flip out. An Obslaught was considered to be at a god-like level.
Isn't that the same story that had Juggernauts thoughts read through his helmet?
The story is usually put down for its bad writing..
I know it raped Juggernauts origins, inventing that stupid ruby in his chest...
Originally posted by JakeTheBank_
Let's get one thing clear.Hulk isn't one shotting or no selling Superman.
Superman isn't one shotting or no selling Hulk.
These extremes on either spectrum are ridiculous.
Exactly. You do know what you are talking about. I find them equally matched and probably ending in a stalemate.
Originally posted by cdtm_
Isn't that the same story that had Juggernauts thoughts read through his helmet?The story is usually put down for its bad writing.. _
I know it raped Juggernauts origins, inventing that stupid ruby in his chest...
According to Juggernaut: The 8th day; Avengers vol. 3, #24-25 that whole thing about the ruby (the gem of Cyttorak) seems to be canon.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Let's get one thing clear.Hulk isn't one shotting or no selling Superman.
Superman isn't one shotting or no selling Hulk.
These extremes on either spectrum are ridiculous.
Have a question Jake. Looking at Savage Hulk history, do you think he could give Superman fits and pull wins? Honest answer.
Originally posted by IssacFrost
_Exactly. You do know what you are talking about. I find them equally matched and probably ending in a stalemate.
I personally feel that Superman holds the advantage, but I recognize Hulk's feats as a whole and acknowledge that Superman isn't going to spite stomp him. It's a good fight if you don't go balls deep into the "OMGZ SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDBLITZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" argument.
Originally posted by carver9
Have a question Jake. Looking at Savage Hulk history, do you think he could give Superman fits and pull wins? Honest answer.
Yes, he could certainly get wins on Clark. A majority? Another story, imo, but based on feats and how these characters fight in character, only someone seriously misinformed would think it's literally impossible for Hulk to beat Superman.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, he could certainly get wins on Clark. A majority? Another story, imo, but based on feats and how these characters fight in character, only someone seriously misinformed would think it's literally impossible for Hulk to beat Superman.
That means the majority on the Superman train are seemingly misinformed. Im on neither train because I'm a fan of both characters and I know what both can do. And I know both can tank each other in a fight. Even if Superman used his insane speed with his planetary shattering strength he would still have to deal with Hulk's insane, and proven by showings, resistance, durability and regeneration as well as his brutal strength that has no limits. Whereas Hulk would have to deal with someone who has planet shaterring power, flight, high speed as well as high speed reactions and near invulnerability.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I personally feel that Superman holds the advantage, but I recognize Hulk's feats as a whole and acknowledge that Superman isn't going to spite stomp him. It's a good fight if you don't go balls deep into the "OMGZ SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDBLITZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" argument.
I believe that Superman does has a clear advantage. He has flight, speed to rival Flash and superior tactical combat prowess which has been shown and are a reality of his character. He isn't some stupid brick.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I personally feel that Superman holds the advantage, but I recognize Hulk's feats as a whole and acknowledge that Superman isn't going to spite stomp him. It's a good fight if you don't go balls deep into the "OMGZ SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDBLITZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" argument.Yes, he could certainly get wins on Clark. A majority? Another story, imo, but based on feats and how these characters fight in character, only someone seriously misinformed would think it's literally impossible for Hulk to beat Superman.
Another question. Do you think Savage Hulk could pull some wins from Current Hulk if they were capable of fighting each other?
Originally posted by carver9
Another question. Do you think Savage Hulk could pull some wins from Current Hulk if they were capable of fighting each other?
Another question. Do you think Family Man Hulk would win against Savage Hulk and current Hulk, if they were capable of fighting each other? Who would be rembed into the ground?
Originally posted by carver9
I know you see where I am going with this.
That if Savage Hulk can beat Superman in any capacity and if Current Hulk is > Savage, than therefore Current Hulk should fare better than Savage would against Superman?
Yeah, I saw that coming miles away. Lol. Still, in a roundabout crazy Carver way, you're...right. sneer *shudders a bit*
Still, Superman has advantages over Hulk that Hulk is going to play hell trying to overcome. And while I, personally, feel Superman wins, he's not going to utterly crush him.