Originally posted by psycho gundam
i still want to read some "the incredible broly" from time to timehulk is a monster so.... why not?
Broly checks his closet at night for the Hulk.
Broly checks his closet at night for the Hulk.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i still want to read some "the incredible broly" from time to timehulk is a monster so.... why not?
lol
Hell, I think Hulk should be an over the top comic as is. The concept is about a guy who gets pissed and smashes shit. I'm by no means trying to downplay the serious pathos that Banner goes through or the other aspects of his self loathing and dysfunctional familial ties, but Hulk should be doing crazy shit as the norm. Maybe not Pak crazy as the norm, but still.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankit's been done, though the new guys have something new they want to explore.
lolHell, I think Hulk should be an over the top comic as is. The concept is about a guy who gets pissed and smashes shit. I'm by no means trying to downplay the serious pathos that Banner goes through or the other aspects of his self loathing and dysfunctional familial ties, but Hulk should be doing crazy shit as the norm. Maybe not Pak crazy as the norm, but still.
hopefully shin hulk doesn't get permanently shelved cause other than the comic saying #1 it's still fallowing continuity. it'll be fun to know he can cut loose on some big threat if he chooses to.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
it's been done, though the new guys have something new they want to explore.hopefully shin hulk doesn't get permanently shelved cause other than the comic saying #1 it's still fallowing continuity
That's good, at least.
I don't care for when new creative teams basically disregard what came before it and do soft retcons.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman would win 6 o 7/10 against Savage.WWH would win 7 or 8/10 against Supes.
Yes, I have seen an all out Superman TWICE to my knowledge. He fought Black Adam and stated that there was no reason to hold back against him and they didnt even put a scratch on a city block.
He was possessed by Max Lord and was trying to KILL Wonder Woman because he seen her as Doomsday and when they landed on Earth... nothing at all happened and again, HE WAS TRYING TO KILL HER.
There are other times where he went all out but nothing of the sort happened. Nothing CLOSE to what Hulk did... hell, he has never accomplished anything similar to this even during sun amps.
Answer my question. Are we talking about robot Superman or are we talking about "in character" Superman.
The way you are describing him fighting, show me him fighting in this fashion in a comic book.
If you want to make up stuff, I can go right along with it.
Make up stuff? So I made up stuff when by your own admission you stated, and even had to be warned by a mod, that Superman and Flash where moving at 2000 mps and tried to lowball it?
How about the post where you implied he had no speed of light and THEN you posted, after being warned, that you where NOT saying he didn't achieve those speeds.
I really do not want to dig through all your posts where even a mod has had to reign you in. Want me to go ahead and do that so you can remember what you have posted?
And I acknowledge Hulk's feats but YOU are trying to lowball Superman's speed which not only multiple scans have been shown that HE does use it if need be but that his reaction/perception can be accelerated to Flash like levels. You are going to make stuff up now that Superman doesn't have his speed? Why? Because you say so? What about the scans where he is moving fast enough to perform multiple attacks (although Spiderman too has been shown to do similarly) whereas Hulk doesn't have a showing of multiple after images unless there is a scan I have never seen.
And just exactly is previous Current Hulk going to counter him, if Superman blitz him into space? Because his 'heavy' and unmovable? Say what now? He has Blob like ability to not be moved?
Pak's Hulk can expel GRB which are explosively powerful and considered in our existence to be the most powerful explosion existing and GR travels at faster than light. Granted. But do we know what effect it will have on Superman, who has survived Darkseid's Omega Beams which can ERASE not obliterate not destroy but ERASE a being (unless Darkseid's is so generous that he held back because he wanted Superman to live) so who is to say he can't survive GRB.
For an avid comic reader you really want to put Superman on a crutch negating his powers, his mobility, his speed, his reaction. And how is Hulk going to reach him if he can't fly? Crapping GR out of his ass to propel himself at faster than light speed? What the hell?
And since when does Hulk also go all out on someone he doesn't know. His in a place he doesn't even to regard ANYONE'S safety and unleash himself but you think he will do the same fighting on a planet with innocents? So you want to change Hulk's multiple showings of not going all out just because he can go all out on the Dark Dimension, means he will unleash himself on Earth?
Originally posted by IssacFrost
Make up stuff? So I made up stuff when by your own admission you stated, and even had to be warned by a mod, that Superman and Flash where moving at 2000 mps and tried to lowball it?How about the post where you implied he had no speed of light and THEN you posted, after being warned, that you where NOT saying he didn't achieve those speeds.
I really do not want to dig through all your posts where even a mod has had to reign you in. Want me to go ahead and do that so you can remember what you have posted?
And I acknowledge Hulk's feats but YOU are trying to lowball Superman's speed which not only multiple scans have been shown that HE does use it if need be but that his reaction/perception can be accelerated to Flash like levels. You are going to make stuff up now that Superman doesn't have his speed? Why? Because you say so? What about the scans where he is moving fast enough to perform multiple attacks (although Spiderman too has been shown to do similarly) whereas Hulk doesn't have a showing of multiple after images unless there is a scan I have never seen.
And just exactly is previous Current Hulk going to counter him, if Superman blitz him into space? Because his 'heavy' and unmovable? Say what now? He has Blob like ability to not be moved?
Pak's Hulk can expel GRB which are explosively powerful and considered in our existence to be the most powerful explosion existing and GR travels at faster than light. Granted. But do we know what effect it will have on Superman, who has survived Darkseid's Omega Beams which can ERASE not obliterate not destroy but ERASE a being (unless Darkseid's is so generous that he held back because he wanted Superman to live) so who is to say he can't survive GRB.
For an avid comic reader you really want to put Superman on a crutch negating his powers, his mobility, his speed, his reaction. And how is Hulk going to reach him if he can't fly? Crapping GR out of his ass to propel himself at faster than light speed? What the hell?
And since when does Hulk also go all out on someone he doesn't know. His in a place he doesn't even to regard ANYONE'S safety and unleash himself but you think he will do the same fighting on a planet with innocents? So you want to change Hulk's multiple showings of not going all out just because he can go all out on the Dark Dimension, means he will unleash himself on Earth?
Did I ever tell you Superman didnt have speed?
You asked for instances of Superman not holding back and I gave them to you. When I tell you them, you then make up excuses about innocents even though Superman crash landed Wonder Woman on a bridge that had people on it.
About to get scans.
Originally posted by carver9
Did I ever tell you Superman didnt have speed?You asked for instances of Superman not holding back and I gave them to you. When I tell you them, you then make up excuses about innocents even though Superman crash landed Wonder Woman on a bridge that had people on it.
About to get scans.
No you tried to imply Superman was not capable of blitzing at speed of light although he clearly has moved at such speeds, and lowballed it so it was down to 2000 mps. Only to retract it stating you never said he didn't have it. You didn't answer my questions on how any of the Hulk's going to counter someone who has the speed and reaction time to rival Flash and shown in multiple scans fighting and leaving after images on how fast his fighting. I have yet to see Hulk doing after images as well, or fly for that matter.
I'm not making excuses up. Both Superman and Hulk have shown they usually do not cut loose as to not endanger innocents. Any respectable comic reader and unbiased, knows Superman holds back a lot.
Even so I stated Hulk HAS NO FINITE LIMITS WHEREAS I HAVE NOT STATED SUPERMAN HAS NO FINITE LEVEL OF STRENGTH but rather that he has hold back plenty of times.
Superman has shown in various occasions moving at a speed that things seem slower to him even lightning and though not a lot of showings of this you want to make it so Hulk's only showings of doing what he is doing is a constant thing. Wow that is very convenient. Why don't you admit you are biased against Superman? Even when shown his feats like speed ones you try to imply that it's not in character for him to do that but Hulk is in character for doing what he is doing now. Way to go man.
And here I thought you where more intelligent then that.
Originally posted by IssacFrost
No you tried to imply Superman was not capable of blitzing at speed of light although he clearly has moved at such speeds, and lowballed it so it was down to 2000 mps. Only to retract it stating you never said he didn't have it. You didn't answer my questions on how any of the Hulk's going to counter someone who has the speed and reaction time to rival Flash and shown in multiple scans fighting and leaving after images on how fast his fighting. I have yet to see Hulk doing after images as well, or fly for that matter.I'm not making excuses up. Both Superman and Hulk have shown they usually do not cut loose as to not endanger innocents. Any respectable comic reader and unbiased, knows Superman holds back a lot.
Even so I stated Hulk HAS NO FINITE LIMITS WHEREAS I HAVE NOT STATED SUPERMAN HAS NO FINITE LEVEL OF STRENGTH but rather that he has hold back plenty of times.
Superman has shown in various occasions moving at a speed that things seem slower to him even lightning and though not a lot of showings of this you want to make it so Hulk's only showings of doing what he is doing is a constant thing. Wow that is very convenient. Why don't you admit you are biased against Superman? Even when shown his feats like speed ones you try to imply that it's not in character for him to do that but Hulk is in character for doing what he is doing now. Way to go man.
And here I thought you where more intelligent then that.
You asked for times Superman didn't hold back, I gave them to you. Another time was when Eclipso took control of Superman body and used it against Captain Marvel.
As for speed, Superman and Gladiator imo are the fastest Heralds when it comes to combat speed but just like Jake, One Dumb, Quanchi, and numerous of other posters, some well respected posters stated, CIS is a b****. It takes away everything that you are saying. I can easily say that Hulk would walk around with green energy that vaporized high tier beings which if Superman tried to blitz Hulk, the energy that is being realised from Hulks body would kills Supes but CIS is on and Hulk wouldn't do that.
That's what you are failing to understand. I know Superman has Super speed... Not denying it. I also know Surfer can create black holes in Superman skull but I sure as hell wouldn't go in a thread saying that Surfer would beat Superman 10/10 via Black hole to the skull because its not in character for him. We go by on panel evidence...we do not ignore that. So you need to go and look at all of Supes fights and tell me along with all of the other people that are saying the same things what Supes was doing during 90% of his fights.
Supes is fast, Gladiator is fast, Wonder Woman is fast, all of them are fast and he WILL blitz but he will also get touched as well.
Originally posted by carver9_
You asked for times Superman didn't hold back, I gave them to you. Another time was when Eclipso took control of Superman body and used it against Captain Marvel.
Which is similar to Onslaught taking control of Hulk's body and later on getting KO'd by a blitzing Iron Man. I thought you'd remember that and avoid bringing it here.
As for speed, Superman and Gladiator imo are the fastest Heralds when it comes to combat speed but just like Jake, One Dumb, Quanchi, and numerous of other posters, some well respected posters stated, CIS is a b****. _It takes away everything that you are saying._
So it takes away my statements on how GRB is a powerful if not the most powerful form of electromagnetic energy explosion and how Hulk can regenerate with insane speed, has durability that makes him nigh invulnerable and no finite limit to his strength as well as capability to flip out when ever he wants to let loose his rage since he doesn't need to charge it and how his rage fuels his strength, durability and regeneration. Oh no wait it only applies to what I have said about Superman because it is convenient for you to take away only what I said about Superman and not what I states about Hulk. Oops guess you must have forgotten I posted as well about Hulk's feats such as separating spheres of matter and anti-matter and how it didn't do lick to him or regeneration after Vector with the power to repel matter was unable to kill him. Ah right it only applies to Superman's capacity to react at Flash like reactions if the going gets tough. I forgot about that.
I can easily say that Hulk would walk around with green energy that vaporized high tier beings which if Superman tried to blitz Hulk, the energy that is being realised from Hulks body would kills Supes but CIS is on and Hulk wouldn't do that._
Seeing as this resulted in a, as you yourself stated, destruction of a realm, why would Hulk attempt this in a place that can jeopardize innocents is beyond me. Now if they where fighting in a place where they both know innocents won't die Hulk won't have any qualms using this but then they'd have to be fighting in a planet devoid of innocent life. This isn't the first time Hulk begins to release GRB except in most occasions he held back such as ripping half of his own head or allowing himself to get hit by GR draining weapons during WBH. Hulk would use it so long as he knows it won't hurt innocents. Also seeing we have no idea what it can do to Superman, who also has feats of surviving Super Nova explosions, unless you want to remove this because it hasn't happened enough but have Hulk do the things his doing now that he previously hadn't done before. Again sounds mighty convenient.
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That's what you are failing to understand. I know Superman has Super speed... Not denying it. I also know Surfer can create black holes in Superman skull but I sure as hell wouldn't go in a thread saying that Surfer would beat Superman 10/10 via Black hole to the skull because its not in character for him. We go by on panel evidence...we do not ignore that.
Last I remember a mod has had to reign you in several times something I haven't seen the other posters incur, I wonder why? Oh yes because you are the one failing to understand things if a mod has to be reigning you in for your comments. You also fail to understand I'm not the one trying to lowball any of the characters.
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_So you need to go and look at all of Supes fights and tell me along wig all of the other people that are saying the same things what Supes was doing during 90% of his fights._Supes is fast, Gladiator is fast, Wonder Woman is fast, all of them are fast and he WILL blitz but he will also get touched as well.
Multiple scans have been posted where ON PANEL EVIDENCE, as you stated we should use, that Superman is not only speed blitzing but moving so fast as to make after images and not getting touched at all. That's ON PANEL EVIDENCE as you claim we should go by. And not just one occasion but several occasions he has done this. Oh wait I forgot you are likely to go with ONE PANEL evidence of Hulk destroying a 'realm' as solid evidence than MULTIPLE OCCASIONS of Superman blitzing leaving after images and not getting touched back. Oops I forgot you don't like Superman and gives you a +90% bonus to ignoring his feats.