Originally posted by carver9
Stop saying that there are innocent that would prevent such and such from happening. When these battles are going on, they are fighting in a neutral environment where there are no victims unless stated otherwise by the thread starter. [I can tell you didn't read my post well enough. Read below to see why you pwn yourself without any need of me having too. I appreciate making it easy for me.]
So you agree that Surfer could beat Thor and Superman 10/10 via black hole to the brain?
[You haven't been to court much have you? That there is one very bad attempt; is Hulk capable of creating a black hole in Superman's brain? Stick to answering the question only. The answer is: No._Then why even bring it up? To show Surfer's CIS? No one is here presenting or viewing scans of Surfer feats and this is not a Surfer vs. Hulk thread. Stick to Hulk vs. Superman only please.]
This is what CIS means. Take a look at all of these battles involving Superman. In one of the fight he actually dies and have to be brought back to life. CIS plays a huge part on his character along with Thor, Surfer, etc... Superman has great speed but he rarely use it due to CIS._
[Read Badabing's post on the rules.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=13477709&highlight=userid%3A89307#post13477709
As an Army 68W I had to memorize or recall lots of information to be able to save lives. Which is why I can easily recall this. I believe that clears the whole speed thing as it was even stated:
A)"This battle is at a default arena. There are no civilians or buildings. Supes won't have to worry about letting loose. So there really is no CIS for Supes at this point. He has knowledge of Hulk and fights at full capacity." -Badabing
B) "It's all there. Superman speeds up his senses to match Flash and the world is a statue to him. This is well within his abilities, he can do it instantly and it's a viable tactic for this forum." -Badabing
Well that clears a lot doesn't it?]
You would basically have to call all of these fights PIS to presume Hulk can not touch him.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/128/generalvsjla4pj6.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/117/generalvsjla5ab2.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/442/generalvsjla6ty7.jpg/
[Was he making use of his speed in these scans? Again stick to answering the question only. The answer is: No. He wasn't even trying to use his speed. Which is why he got tagged. Now if you showed me he getting tagged while using speed blitz that's another matter all together.]
Funny how you didn't address anything I said except one thing and even addressing that you failed epically
Read. It. Again. Closely.
Seeing as this resulted in a, as you yourself stated, destruction of a realm, why would Hulk attempt this in a place that can jeopardize innocents is beyond me. Now if they where fighting in a place where they both know innocents won't die Hulk won't have any qualms using this but then they'd have to be fighting in a planet devoid of innocent life. This isn't the first time Hulk begins to release GRB except in most occasions he held back such as ripping half of his own head or allowing himself to get hit by GR draining weapons during WBH. Hulk would use it so long as he knows it won't hurt innocents. Also seeing we have no idea what it can do to Superman, who also has feats of surviving Super Nova explosions, unless you want to remove this because it hasn't happened enough but have Hulk do the things his doing now that he previously hadn't done before. Again sounds mighty convenient.
I deliberately spoke of two possible scenarios as I was aware of the, arena rules stated by Badabing.
But unlike you I actually like to see both sides of a story. That's what I study law for. I stated quite clearly unless you have eye sight problems, scenario case with innocents and no innocents (as is this fight)_
Oops you just tore yourself a new one as I specifically mentioned both sides of the coin. Ouch!
You have a penchant for debating in such a way that you slaughter your own self without need of me needing to do anything at all._
Not to mention that you get warning by two different mods when no one else incur them. Is it because you are violating rules or powers/feats?
Evidence A
Originally posted by carver9
Show me a scan of him fighting that fast. If you show me, I will give Superman the majority in this fight.Like I said before, Hulk has tagged speedsters. There will be no statues here.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said he didnt have super speed.Flash admitted in a recent race that he "let" Superman win. The race they had before that, they were only moving at 2000 mps and Superman was trying to grab him with everything he had.
Originally posted by -Pr-
no they weren't. you know that too. don't make me warn you.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree, it did state that their speed was increasing but I'm going by the only quote that was giving during that race which is still hellava fast.
Evidence B
Originally posted by Badabing
Carver, I think you need to back away from this thread slowly and get some rest.
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**After making some of your 'interesting' arguments you got this response when no one else did.
Evidence C
Originally posted by carver9
The first punch kills Superman.
Originally posted by Badabing
Show me where Superman was punched one singletime and died.Stick to feats Carver, not what you think.
And be glad it's me addressing this thread and not Pr or a global...
Any more nonsense, trolling, etc. and there will be warning and this thread closed. _ I've quoted the rules in this thread. _Those of you who disagree with our rules or can't abide by them are welcome to post somewhere else.
I believe that's enough evidence that your form of debating seems to rely heavily on bending/breaking rules._Again I thought you where smarter than that._
And please stop wasting my time and stick to the topic as for all intent of purposes I will ignore your posts to this one. Stick to the topic and have a nice day. 
