Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by carver9
I know because he would still be above it since no Herald can hurt him minus bfring. Stop creating characters in a image that you would like for them to be at and actually look at the way they truly perform. A thunderclap from Hulk would take out most Heralds...his OMNI blast alone would wreck them and his fist would destroy them. You all were the one debating in that fashion...don't try to throw your crazy way of debating on me.

No,because he wouldn't have a chance against PiSless versatile characters.

Originally posted by Sabro
No,because he wouldn't have a chance against PiSless versatile characters.

Like I've stated...don't throw the way you all debate on me. I'm not the one that ignore what happens on panel and states that Hulk would just thunder clap the entire match...its you all that is ignoring CIS. You probably could be right since a lot of Heralds have the potential to bfr him if they are not fighting in character. I'm still not getting your point though...why even bring that up when its aiding in what I said?

Originally posted by carver9
Like I've stated...don't throw the way you all debate on me. I'm not the one that ignore what happens on panel and states that Hulk would just thunder clap the entire match...its you all that is ignoring CIS. You probably could be right since a lot of Heralds have the potential to bfr him if they are not fighting in character. I'm still not getting your point though...why even bring that up when its aiding in what I said?

What happens on panel is influenced by character popularity and Hulk is well known even to people who don't read comics so it's no surprise that he ends up looking better than his otherwise superior opponents.Anyway off topic so lets end it.

Originally posted by Sabro
What happens on panel is influenced by character popularity and Hulk is well known even to people who don't read comics so it's no surprise that he ends up looking better than his otherwise superior opponents.Anyway off topic so lets end it.

What superior opponents? Are you ready to sort through his fts along with Superman fts and decide who they should and shouldn't beat? Why disregard something that has happened on panel? Accept what the character has done and move on.

Originally posted by carver9
I can show you Firelord manipulating solar energy, something that Superman is made out of. I can show you Super Skrull shielding himself creating bubbles in the brain. I can show you Sue shielding herself, creating bubbles in the brain/body...I can show you Surfer manipulating energy as well, creating Black Hole, etc, etc...I can show you Thor soul sucking, bfring, energy draining, and the list goes on. Minus CIS, people like Gladiator, Wonder Woman, and Superman wouldn't have a fighting chance against most Heralds...deal with it.

And what Hulk would do better in that scenario?

In fact Glads, WW and Supes would stand a better chance than Hulk in this scenario due to their versatility.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And what Hulk would do better in that scenario?

In fact Glads, WW and Supes would stand a better chance than Hulk in this scenario due to their versatility.

I agree...bfr for the win. I'm glad you agree that Firelord could beat Superman 10/10. I don't have a problem admitting he will do the same to Glads. I'm also glad to see that you admit Thor could beat him as well 10/10 along with Surfer. You might as well add Martian Manhunter on the list. Lets go through the threads and debate in a CBR fashion. Are you ready? My hand is out for you. Grab it so we can bring new light to KMC. CIS off battles.

Originally posted by Placidity
HV to the eyes. Combo to KO.

When you see me debate like this...then Holla at me.

Hulk is just a strong brute. When he wins, it's because of PIS.

Originally posted by Offendor
Hulk is just a strong brute. When he wins, it's because of PIS.

Superman is just a strong brute, when he win, its because of PIS.

Now let me guess, you are going to name heat vision.

Let me guess, I'm going to name OMNI blast for Hulk.

Let me guess, you are going to name ice breath for Superman.

Let me guess, I am going to name thunder clap for Hulk.

Let me guess, you are going to name flight for Superman.

Let me guess, I am going to name super speed jumping for Hulk.

Let me guess, you are going to acute senses for Superman.

Let me guess, I am going to name acute senses as well for Hulk...able to even see beings in astral form.

Let me guess, you are also going to add super speed.

Hulk might not be Superman fast but he also have super speed.

Let me also add the fact that Hulk can adapt.

Let me also add the fact that Hulk has the best healing factor in comics.

Let me also add the fact that all of these physical stats that I've named above for Hulk are amplified GREATLY the angrier Hulk gets.

Hulk isn't as one dimensional as you make him out to be huh?

Originally posted by carver9
Superman is just a strong brute, when he win, its because of PIS.

LOL Carv, you are describing the Hulk actually. You don't read much Superman I know and you hate him but try to imagine Gladiator at his very best and be honest to yourself. With Hyperspead (like against Thor) and Planetcrushing blows and his other abilities... you would always give him the win over WBH, if you are just honest enough.^^ And Superman is even more powerful then Glads^^.

Originally posted by carver9

Now let me guess, you are going to name heat vision.

It will do Damage, it's hotter then the Sun and Hulk was hurt by less, like Cyclops. But it isn't the deciding factor here so...

Originally posted by carver9

Let me guess, I'm going to name OMNI blast for Hulk.

Omni blast? LOL. His thunderclap and energy rating is nothing Supes can't take. You can lowball him with a Gas station but it's outdated. Supes took the Mageddon Warhead, went through an Red Sun, got blasts from Darkseid etc. Was crushed between two Planet and took it^^. An "Omni"blast from Hulk won't do lasting damage and it sure won't be the deciding factor.

Originally posted by carver9

Let me guess, you are going to name ice breath for Superman.

Supes Ice breath might be a nice distraction, not deciding either.^^

Originally posted by carver9

Let me guess, I am going to name thunder clap for Hulk.

It won't be deciding either, it's not powerful enough but it's a good distraction which might bring Hulk near Supes, if Supes fights like a dumb brick.

Originally posted by carver9

Let me guess, you are going to name flight for Superman.

He can do it and he can bfr Hulk doing it and it might be an deciding factor.^^

Originally posted by carver9

Let me guess, I am going to name super speed jumping for Hulk.

Superspeed jumping, really? Is it anywhere near the speed of light? Even if I would give you the jumping speed of sound it would be to slow to hit anything that can actually fly faster then that, jumping =! flying, no Maneuverability 😉.

Originally posted by carver9

Let me guess, you are going to acute senses for Superman.

He can't be surprised by Hulk^^.

Originally posted by carver9

Let me guess, I am going to name acute senses as well for Hulk...able to even see beings in astral form.

Hulk on the other hand is slow and Supes can suprise him for sure, if he decides to do it.^^

Originally posted by carver9

Let me guess, you are also going to add super speed.

Superman is much much much faster then Hulk will ever be and this is indeed the deciding factor^^.

Originally posted by carver9

Hulk might not be Superman fast but he also have super speed.

Yeah, but compare Hulks speeds to Supermans and he is slow as hell^^. Superman is, as said much much faster and you have to be kidding youself that Hulk has a chance to keep up with him for even a split second, he aint no Flash^^.

Originally posted by carver9

Let me also add the fact that Hulk can adapt.

? Lulz

Originally posted by carver9

Let me also add the fact that Hulk has the best healing factor in comics.

That's true, one of the best anyway and it's the only thing that doesn't makes this fight spite, actually^^. BTW Superman heals also quite fast^^.

Originally posted by carver9

Let me also add the fact that all of these physical stats that I've named above for Hulk are amplified GREATLY the angrier Hulk gets.

Sure, and Superman always holds back, he has his reserves and he can increase his output if he becomes serious^^.

Originally posted by carver9

Hulk isn't as one dimensional as you make him out to be huh?

He isn't ^^, some might portray him that way but he can be quite interesting^^.

PISless the fight would be like this, with CIS

Superman meets the Hulk, they fight like bricks, they trade blows for some time, Superman starts out stronger and beats on the Hulk at first, till Hulk becomes angry enough and Supes sees that their strength is on par but that Hulk becomes stronger with time passing. When Hulk starts to do serious damage because his strength went higher, Superman won't see it as a game and fight serious, he will match Hulks strength but he will start also using his speed, fighting skills and abilities and end it quite quickly^^. He could bfr him into the Sun, take him with him like he did with Darkseid and end it, if they fight in a populated area, or he will knock him out with strength and speed^^.

Don't forget Superman has the greatest strength feat in comic history, even if it is ridiculous^^. Hulk is strong and I even say as strong but you can't get stronger then this one.

Carv, now start your lowballing^^.

BP.

If you use ^^ one more time I just may have to reach through the screen and slap you.

uhuh

Originally posted by carver9
I agree...bfr for the win. I'm glad you agree that Firelord could beat Superman 10/10. I don't have a problem admitting he will do the same to Glads. I'm also glad to see that you admit Thor could beat him as well 10/10 along with Surfer. You might as well add Martian Manhunter on the list. Lets go through the threads and debate in a CBR fashion. Are you ready? My hand is out for you. Grab it so we can bring new light to KMC. CIS off battles.

No because it would not be so easy for Thor or Firelord to bfr/drain Supes with CIS off due to his super speed working at its best 😉

Originally posted by CosmicComet
BP.

If you use ^^ one more time I just may have to reach through the screen and slap you.

uhuh

Why? 😄 Sry, I got used to it 'cause of FB cough it's just a smiley grinning

What does the word bfr mean?

Originally posted by Offendor
What does the word bfr mean?

Battle Field Removal

Hulk

Batman Prime...it appears.you havent been keeping up with Hulk. I am about to educate you...gathering scans. By the way, when the two planets collided, Superman was koed. Superman absorbed the Mag Warhead...it was giving off the same type of energy that empowers him. He did go through a red Sun, I will give him that. From.reading your post, it appears you got all of your information from the respect thread about Superman. Give me a few minutes.

Originally posted by Offendor
With Plot Induced Stupidity on, then obviously no one would win. They would fight like morons and conclude the battle as a draw with some lame excuse after a long showoff meaningless fight, because the writers don't want to piss their fanbase off, and they want to use the characters in more comics to earn more money... Why would we even consider how the comicbook writers would try to prolong this battle?

If we are going to talk about who would [b]actually win, then the answer would be superman. [/B]

How many times does a character have to defeat speedier characters before it is no longer considered PIS?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No because it would not be so easy for Thor or Firelord to bfr/drain Supes with CIS off due to his super speed working at its best 😉

Show me some scans of his speed "working at its best". I want to see if its the type of speed that would make him invisible to Thor.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman is just a strong brute, when he win, its because of PIS.

Let me guess, you are going to name flight for Superman.

Let me guess, I am going to name super speed jumping for Hulk.

Let me guess, you are also going to add super speed.

Hulk might not be Superman fast but he also have super speed.

As far as I am concerned, this should be true against pretty much all characters that have the strenght or ability to propel something with Hulks weight into space. If Hulks opponent doesn't use this viable strategy, its PIS.