Originally posted by carver9Yeah look at the Thor Namor fight. Thor kOs Namor in one blow in the rain when he gets even remotely serious 😛
First thing...you are CLEARLY underestimating Namor. Namor giving Hulk a fight doesn't take away from his dynamic strength. Look at the Namor and Thor fights, or Strange or any other Herald level character...Namor is by far one of the stronger beings on the planet.I'm tired of providing scans to delusional people that is basically ignoring it because their mind is already made up. If you are going to sit here and ignore evidence because your mind is already made up, let me know right now so I can stop responding to your post since you are clearly trying to low ball.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
I agree. Hulk definitely has far better feats than that.I wasn't downing the Hulk. I was downing Carver trying to portray that as a big high herald level feat and trying to upscale from there.
Naah, its not the be all strength ft, my point in bringing that up is to show that Hulk isn't a weakling at a calm state. The fts I provided before this is proof enough. No one isn't pummeling Thor like that and overpowering him unless they have high Herald+ strength.
Originally posted by carver9
Naah, its not the be all strength ft, my point in bringing that up is to show that Hulk isn't a weakling at a calm state. The fts I provided before this is proof enough. No one isn't pummeling Thor like that and overpowering him unless they have high Herald+ strength.
Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah look at the Thor Namor fight. Thor kOs Namor in one blow in the rain when he gets even remotely serious 😛
Hhhmmm, good point...did you look at the fights after that? Also,look at the Thor and Hercules fight...his lightning saved him from nearly being choked out. Hulk tends to own Herc, even with a team.
Originally posted by carver9Hercules is also stronger than Namor.
Hhhmmm, good point...did you look at the fights after that? Also,look at the Thor and Hercules fight...his lightning saved him from nearly being choked out. Hulk tends to own Herc, even with a team.
Look namor is one of the stongest beings on the planet.
But just being one of the strongest does not mean he is in the same ballpark as the other strongest people on the planet.
We know in raw strength Thor and Herc are leaps and bounds above him, because of instances like Thor one shotting Namor and planetary level feats.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No one is saying hulk is a weakling when calm but its certainly an exaggeration that he is high herald+ at calm level.
I agree. That was Professor Hulk which is different than Savage. When Banner change to Savage Hulk, he usually starts off in a uncontrollable rage which amps him significantly past high Professor Hulk incarnation. Savage Hulk usually starts off pretty high and gradually increase right after this.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree. That was Professor Hulk which is different than Savage. When Banner change to Savage Hulk, he usually starts off in a uncontrollable rage which amps him significantly past high Professor Hulk incarnation. Savage Hulk usually starts off pretty high and gradually increase right after this.
Imho, since savage Hulk had no "limits" he could become as strong as WBH if pissed enough. Except of this, the feats back then during savage Hulk times were often more ridiculous and "stupid" then now, it's like Marvel had it's own pre-crisis times. Now the comics try to appear at least a little bit more resonable.
Originally posted by Newjak
Hercules is also stronger than Namor.Look namor is one of the stongest beings on the planet.
But just being one of the strongest does not mean he is in the same ballpark as the other strongest people on the planet.
We know in raw strength Thor and Herc are leaps and bounds above him, because of instances like Thor one shotting Namor and planetary level feats.
You can't base One showing like that against Namor...if anything, it was a low showing going by their history.
Lol...Namor gives Herc a hell of a fight. I don't know what fights you are looking at.
Lol...you are clearly underestimating Namor.
Originally posted by carver9Yeah you can. It's pretty well established that Namor is mid tier strength wise and Thor and Herc are high tier.
You can't base One showing like that against Namor...if anything, it was a low showing going by their history.Lol...Namor gives Herc a hell of a fight. I don't know what fights you are looking at.
Lol...you are clearly underestimating Namor.
And yes Namor can give Herc a fight but at the end of the day we are talking about Heroes that constantly hold back and often play down to other heroes levels.
Namor isn't performing half of the feats that Herc has done, if you think he is then you are delusional.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Imho, since savage Hulk had no "limits" he could become as strong as WBH if pissed enough. Except of this, the feats back then during savage Hulk times were often more ridiculous and "stupid" then now, it's like Marvel had it's own pre-crisis times. Now the comics try to appear at least a little bit more resonable.
You are forgetting, Savage Hulk isn't the only one that can amp. WWH starts off far stronger than Savage and can amp at will. WBH was still amping during his fight against She Rulk. You MIGHT have a point...Savage Hulk probably could get that powerful but the other Hulks would still be amping as well.
Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah you can. It's pretty well established that Namor is mid tier strength wise and Thor and Herc are high tier.And yes Namor can give Herc a fight but at the end of the day we are talking about Heroes that constantly hold back and often play down to other heroes levels.
Namor isn't performing half of the feats that Herc has done, if you think he is then you are delusional.
I never said Namor is as strong as Thor, Hulk, or Herc but what I am saying is that he could give them a fight and this has been shown on panel. By the way, you tend to use the "holding back" argument A LOT. You use it as some type of crutch.
Then you take fts too literal. There are people that do not have a percentage of Thor or Hercs strength fts and they would physically beat the hell out of them. Hell, this is currently happening. Thor is getting curbed by someone that doesn't have a single strength ft showing of lifting anything heavier than a car.
Originally posted by carver9I use the holding back argument a lot because it's well established to be true.
I never said Namor is as strong as Thor, Hulk, or Herc but what I am saying is that he could give them a fight and this has been shown on panel. By the way, you tend to use the "holding back" argument A LOT. You use it as some type of crutch.Then you take fts too literal. There are people that do not have a percentage of Thor or Hercs strength fts and they would physically beat the hell out of them. Hell, this is currently happening. Thor is getting curbed by someone that doesn't have a single strength ft showing of lifting anything heavier than a car.
How do I take feats too literal. If Herc/Thor lifted something then he lifted it. I don't how I can take something like that too literal. Are you saying I shouldn't say Thor can lift planetary weights when he's done it, and on a couple of occasions?
And I don't hold feats as the sole means of regarding someone's strength level, but it's a good indicator. Also when we have someone like Namor who is well defined to be a tier below Thor/Herc and Thor/Herc are specifically showcased as being some of the cream of the crop that yes anytime Namor can hold his own strength wise I would account it to the fact that Thor and Herc are holding back more than it is that Namor's strength level is that close to them especially considering we know what Namor's feats are.
We know he is a mid tier level character strength wise.
The fact that Thor can KO Namor in the rain in one blow is another testament to that.
When I see Hulk lifting a black hole that has lasted for millions of years the You will have a case.
When he slows downs mountains traveling between universes then You will have a case.
When I see Hulk breaking the laws of physics and gravity at match 9000 via muscle then You will have a case.
Otherwise Superman's muscles > Hulk's
Hulk has been known to be a planet buster force since the 70's, young generations are wanking at WBH, but forget he is actually capable of busting a planet since the 70's.
So Carver pardon me if I just smile politely to your argument.
Originally posted by biensalsa
When I see Hulk lifting a black hole that has lasted for millions of years the You will have a case.When he slows downs mountains traveling between universes then You will have a case.
When I see Hulk breaking the laws of physics and gravity at match 9000 via muscle then You will have a case.
Otherwise Superman's muscles > Hulk's
Hulk has been known to be a planet buster force since the 70's, young generations are wanking at WBH, but forget he is actually capable of busting a planet since the 70's.
So Carver pardon me if I just smile politely to your argument.
Black hole is a lie.
Grey Hulk has done better than holding a mountain...he crushed something that was twice the size of earth.
Savage Hulk has done better than this...he was shaking multiple of dimensions while fist fighting Ironclad.
Savage Hulk has done better than this, he has walked through a blast that could hurl planets and rip through reality.
It has been shown and proven that WBH>>WWH>>Savage Hulk...just because it ruins your plot that Superman doesn't stand a chance doesn't take away from the fact that WBH is leagues above him.
My shoulder is open for you, lean over and cry on it.
Hulk would crush any brick Superman has went against and lost too and the same will happen to Supes.
WBH>>WWH>>Savage Hulk>=Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Black hole is a lie.Grey Hulk has done better than holding a mountain...he crushed something that was twice the size of earth.
Savage Hulk has done better than this...he was shaking multiple of dimensions while fist fighting Ironclad.
Savage Hulk has done better than this, he has walked through a blast that could hurl planets and rip through reality.
It has been shown and proven that WBH>>WWH>>Savage Hulk...just because it ruins your plot that Superman doesn't stand a chance doesn't take away from the fact that WBH is leagues above him.
My shoulder is open for you, lean over and cry on it.
Hulk would crush any brick Superman has went against and lost too and the same will happen to Supes.
WBH>>WWH>>Savage Hulk>=Superman.
You and your existence is a lie dur
He had tech help and he was just hurled against that Asteroid... 😄
Savage Hulk did more then WBH then, Savage Hulk >>>> WBH fine^^.
Yeah, yeah. You aren't exaggerating anything, aren't ya?
Just in your opinion. It was shown on panel that Superman strength is unlimited and hence >>> WBH.
It's too tiny, 😉.
Only in your dreams^^.
Dream on^^.