Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Unless, of course, your bullet train was travelling at a speed far in excess of the speed of light. Or even at the speed of light. Or even half the speed of light. You won't be able to even realise you're on the train, let alone that you have a book to read, or tea to sip.
The Fantastic Four are not being carried along at the same speed as the light speed mover.
The comparison of you on the bullet train to the Fantastic Four fails here because the Fantastic Four is stationary, like your friend Joe in either bullet train scenario.
In that instance with Hulk and Gladiator, once Gladiator has Hulk in his arms, they are moving at the same speedy rate. Hulk is not stationary like the Fantastic Four in your example above.
personally i was thinking Blue and Carver9 were going to do most of my arguing...because i say stuiped things mixed with non-stuiped things...maybe im just mad because my favorite Hulk website is down and no one is fixing it...Hulkspace...website was just awesome...oh well...i've been making a fool of myself more than usual unfortunatly...
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
The Fantastic Four are not being carried along at the same speed as the light speed mover.The comparison of you on the bullet train to the Fantastic Four fails here because the Fantastic Four is stationary, like your friend Joe in either bullet train scenario.
In that instance with Hulk and Gladiator, once Gladiator has Hulk in his arms, they are moving at the same speedy rate. Hulk is not stationary like the Fantastic Four in your example above.
But supposing my friend Joe standing on a train platform, and a book whizzed by his eyes at 60 mph. No way in hell he's reading that.
He's now in a car, travelling at 60 mph, and travelling for 60 miles. In one hour, he can comfortably read a page (assuming he's not driving).
Now he's in the car, and its travelling the same distance, but at 600 mph. He's still stationary relative to the car, but he's only going to be in there for 6 minutes. Much harder to read that page, but still doable.
Now its going at 6000 mph. How much time does he have to read that page? 0.6 of a minute, or 36 seconds.
At 60000mph? 3.6 seconds.
At hundreds of times the speed of light?
You see where this is going? Joe, relative to the car, is still stationary. But as the car speeds up, he's spending less and less time in the car, and so, its getting harder and harder for him to read that one page, over a fixed distance
And so it is with Gladiator/Superman carrying the Hulk (not to mention, just picking him up and throwing him, or punching him, which seems to be more SUperman's MO). Relative to the carrier, Hulk DOES appear to be stationary - but as the distance remains the same (ground level to the upper atmosphere) as the carrier speeds up, they will spend less tiem travelling, and thus, less time to react to the new situation.
Assuming he doesn't just punch him upwards.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Makes it longer but the problem with the endings isn't just how short they originally were, but how lazy they are.
Yeah, I'd heard that too. At the moment though, I'm loving the game. Warzones feel like they should. I mean, Thessia? It's so well done... You actually feel like the galaxy is at stake, somehow.
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's more of a modding discussion that I really can't go in to, but trust me, I do try to divide my time as best I can. Reports and PMs tell me where I need to go when I'm not browsing the forum.
Not really talking about the modding/warnings as much as I mean the ribbing. Have you seen some of h1's logic? Some of them are much worse than carver's, you gotta admit. Is it too easy? Or is it cuz carver takes it well (I think that's it)?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hey bluewater, I posted a reply to your post - hope it doesn't get lost amongst all the other posts.
It's a good post ... MUCH better than the one you sent before it.
Before I proceed, I'll say outright: I think the high end of the post-crisis 2003 through 2010 Kryptonian powerset is superior to just about any incarnation of Hulk powerset during that same period. Speed IS theoretically the one thing that would give Superman, or virtually any Kryptonian or Kryptonian-like character a winning edge. With the possible exception of Hulk in his true WorldBreaker form, looking at absolutely nothing else except the pure powerset and what any individual X could theoretically do WITH that powerset under perfect conditions and given full basic knowledge of the Hulk, say, a newsreel of Hulk during his World War Hulk rampage? Kryptonian X gets the nod.
Note that this says little if anything about how I think any character recognizable to most people AS the Superman of DC Comics would actually do, nor in anywise do I think the above addresses what the original poster of this thread, Asian Hulk, actually wanted or asked us to address.
The problem is, I think, is that when you say 'Hulk vs Superman' to someone, they picture two boxers in the ring, slugging it out. Hulk punches Superman, he goes flying, then he punches Hulk etc.
This, however, totally ignores Superman's skills and abilities. You want it to be a pure slugfest? Fine. Then it would be fairer to the Hulk, if you turn Superman's powers off.
Ultimately, both characters are peers in strength. To give any of them the nod over the other based purely on strength, comes down to personal preference, imo. Both sides have loads of scans showcasing incredible and interchangeable feats.
But that ignores Superman's speed, fighting skills, and intelligence. It doesn't have to be perfect conditions and a newsreel of WWH, imo. We have shown Superman actually does use his intelligence in battle, and DOES use his speed in battle, and actually uses tactics.
In character, the Hulk? Not so much, so much so that when he DOES use battle savvy, he's hailed as the most dangerous Hulk yet (WWH) - although, note, we're using Savage Hulk here.