At base, yes.
But we are only talking about strength, I am not factoring speed, hv, fb, tvo, fighting skills.
Just look at it this way, there is hulk vs an enraged hulk level of strength guy who also happens to move at super speed, shots lasers hotter than the sun from his eyes, causes instant freeze and if none of those work he still has tvo on his arsenal.
So, yes, hulk hits the ground before his dials reach 11.
Originally posted by psycho gundamCarver squared
a guy with a superman sig is arguing with a guy with a hulk sig....hmmm i wonder if either will listen to the other guy's "argument"
Hulk Carv Er tangles with himself with an altered origin. Black Rao vs White Carver. Find out who wins when they pit bias against bias in this epic mirror battle.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
At base, yes.But we are only talking about strength, I am not factoring speed, hv, fb, tvo, fighting skills.
Just look at it this way, there is hulk vs an enraged hulk level of strength guy who also happens to move at super speed, shots lasers hotter than the sun from his eyes, causes instant freeze and if none of those work he still has tvo on his arsenal.
So, yes, hulk hits the ground before his dials reach 11.
So then what does that make Doomsday? You put too much out there btw, I never asked for all of that. Just asked a simple question. If Doomsday is a High Herald, what is the Hulk? You do realize that the Hulk just fought off being squashed by the weight of a star right? That really doesn't seem like Mid Herald to me. You see you can have versatility, but if that versatility isn't enough to put down what people call the One Trick Pony, the more versatile guy could in fact turn around, and get his head kicked in.
For example; lets take Mimic, he's a very versatile guy, but i wouldn't give him the win over the Thing TBH. In fact Mimic may be more versatile than Superman.
Superman wins as usual.
Originally posted by Stoic
So then what does that make Doomsday? You put too much out there btw, I never asked for all of that. Just asked a simple question. If Doomsday is a High Herald, what is the Hulk? You do realize that the Hulk just fought off being squashed by the weight of a star right? That really doesn't seem like Mid Herald to me. You see you can have versatility, but if that versatility isn't enough to put down what people call the One Trick Pony, the more versatile guy could in fact turn around, and get his head kicked in.For example; lets take Mimic, he's a very versatile guy, but i wouldn't give him the win over the Thing TBH. In fact Mimic may be more versatile than Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Because when your opponent is an engine that can withstand pretty much everything you throw at him while at the same time becoming more stronger, faster, and durable by the second, along with an increase in his healing factor, its kind of next to impossible to beat him. Waid said it best...http://s1143.photobucket.com/user/carver9/media/snapshot7_zps16e150cc.jpg.html?sort=9&o=115
"And of course, the madder he gets the stronger he gets and this eventually spirals up to Victory, REGARDLESS".
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hulk can't take everything Superman can dish out. In fact current hulk just got his ass handed to him by Abomination. Do you think Abom is even as strong as Superman?
Read the story before commenting on what's going on. Hulk is weakened after having his brains splattered out from the back of his head (Banner). Hulk apparently doesn't have his healing factor anymore and he is half retarded now. Before his fight with Abomb...He was knocked out for weeks after suffering this damage.
Also...yes, this version of Abomb appears to be stronger than Superman just like OMAC is stronger than Superman. Hercules bust Superman face open with a single hit and Hulk is clearly stronger than him (let's use ABHI style of debating).
Originally posted by carver9
Read the story before commenting on what's going on. Hulk is weakened after having his brains splattered out from the back of his head (Banner). Hulk apparently doesn't have his healing factor anymore and he is half retarded now. Before his fight with Abomb...He was knocked out for weeks after suffering this damage.Also...yes, this version of Abomb appears to be stronger than Superman just like OMAC is stronger than Superman. Hercules bust Superman face open with a single hit and Hulk is clearly stronger than him (let's use ABHI style of debating).
Post a single scan where it is stated that Hulk is weakened. In fact when Banner was retarded in PAD's run by a sharpenal in the brain, he was stronger than ever. Waid doesn't writes Hulk with a HF AT ALL. You are full of excuses as ever.
Hahaha, Herc elbowed Superman and made his nose bleed. Not split his face open. Thing made WWH bleed with a punch and this hulk is no WWH.
And ****ing lulz @ Abomination being stronger than Superman. There is no "this abomination", he isn't amped or anything.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂Post a single scan where it is stated that Hulk is weakened. In fact when Banner was retarded in PAD's run by a sharpenal in the brain, he was stronger than ever. Waid doesn't writes Hulk with a HF AT ALL. You are full of excuses as ever.
Hahaha, Herc elbowed Superman and made his nose bleed. Not split his face open. Thing made WWH bleed with a punch and this hulk is no WWH.
And ****ing lulz @ Abomination being stronger than Superman. There is no "this abomination", he isn't amped or anything.
Hulk is injured...He isn't at his normal power level. It doesn't have to tell us he is weakened when it is common sense. Especially since the guy was koed for weeks after suffering the injury. Who said anything about Waid writing him with a healing factor. If anything, that helps my argument since he is still injured from the severe head attack.
Herc, who is weaker than Hulk by a long shot blooded Superman up and then threw him against a building. He had to be saved by old Supes.
OMAC is stronger than Supes by Superman's own admission and Abomination AND Hulk are both stronger than OMAC and the Predator that dropped Superman. Hulk is also stronger than Grundy as well who was choking the life out of Superman. He's stronger than Titus as well who nearly killed Superman with a single blow.
Prove that this cloned version of Abomination is the same as the real deal.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is injured...He isn't at his normal power level. It doesn't have to tell us he is weakened when it is common sense. Especially since the guy was koed for weeks after suffering the injury. Who said anything about Waid writing him with a healing factor. If anything, that helps my argument since he is still injured from the severe head attack.Herc, who is weaker than Hulk by a long shot blooded Superman up and then threw him against a building. He had to be saved by old Supes.
OMAC is stronger than Supes by Superman's own admission and Abomination AND Hulk are both stronger than OMAC and the Predator that dropped Superman. Hulk is also stronger than Grundy as well who was choking the life out of Superman. He's stronger than Titus as well who nearly killed Superman with a single blow.
Prove that this cloned version of Abomination is the same as the real deal.
Haha, you're so full of lies its not even funny. Herc only bloodied Superman's nose and punched him away. Superman returned and casually KOED him.
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You can't even lowball properly. Herc is stronger than Supergirl BTW. He is an elite in strength. Thing bloodies Hulk at his strongest. Lulz.
Make up your mind about what version of Superman is this. You are likely going into hysteria here mixing various low feats of Superman. Current Superman is stronger than even WWH, he nearly cracked the hemisphere while weakened. So no, Hulk isn't stronger than OMAC or whatever. He isn't even as strong as superman.
Oh and Superman is definitely stronger than Werewolf By Night who choked Hulk out like a *****.
Hulk loses, get over it.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Superman never definitively said OMAC was stronger than he was either. He simply said OMAC was strong maybe stronger than himself.
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Abhi stop the BS, the Hulk is a shell of his former self at this point. Sell that shit to someone that's willing to buy it. You want to get into the low ball game? Do you remember the ersatz Predator wannabe that took Superman out of his game? If not don't bring up the Abomination beating up on a shell of the Hulk. What kind of form is that Abhi? SMFH.
Oh yeah, and if Doomsday isn't on the level, Superman certainly isn't either.
Originally posted by Stoic
Abhi stop the BS, the Hulk is a shell of his former self at this point. Sell that shit to someone that's willing to buy it. You want to get into the low ball game? Do you remember the ersatz Predator wannabe that took Superman out of his game? If not don't bring up the Abomination beating up on a shell of the Hulk. What kind of form is that Abhi? SMFH.Oh yeah, and if Doomsday isn't on the level, Superman certainly isn't either.
Also that Predator looking guy took Superman by surprise and shut down his nervous system. He was also stated to be as fast as Flash by superman. Its not a bad showing at all. When superman was prepared he beat the shit out of the same "flash speed" Predator.
http://i.imgur.com/J7m2vhH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EMPb40S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JE41TMD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U7N76cr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ohn6yVh.jpg
And yeah, where is this "shell of hulk" is coming from? Scans please.
Doomsday isn't at what level?
