Originally posted by the Darkone
Superman has a chance to beat the hulk and his different personalities.Mr. fixit=pretty close, but yes can win
Prossfers hulk: hell yes he can win
savage hulk: 50/50 chance of winning
war hulk: ❌
The Maestro hulk: superman=murder,superman loses and dies
Superman Prime or Pre-Crisis Supes beats Maestro. I don't care if he's got infinite strength or a healing factor. Any version of the Hulk is dead meat when thrown out of the solar system.
Superman wins hands down. Just look at Superman's amazing feats of durability and tell me again that Hulk could beat him. I'm not even mentioning his feats of strength, speed, and heat vision just durability.
In Adventures of Superman #581, Superman allowed Adversary, a powerful magical foe, to hit him as hard as he could, without retaliation. Superman was literally punched halfway across the planet- from Metropolis, he literally landed in China- without any injury or loss of consciousness. But forget about being punched across the planet to China, how about through the planet to China?
In Superman #181, Superman and Bizarro (his magically-created, brain damaged, "imperfect" duplicate) switched bodies. Superman (in Bizarro’s body) punched Bizarro (in Superman’s body) completely through the Earth and out the other end. Bizarro (in Superman’s body) was slammed in through the ground in Metropolis and came out two panels later in China. He was shown ripping straight through the Earth’s crust, mantle, and core, and coming out on the other side of the planet. Superman’s body was fully conscious and completely unharmed by the blow (Bizarro was smiling as usual).
In Man of Tomorrow #13, Superman harmlessly shrugged off a blast from Orion’s Astro-Harness that blasted him across the planet from the North Pole to India.
Action Comics # 762: Superman harmlessly shrugged off a blow from the magical demon Etrigan. The blow actually knocked Superman from Earth's surface all the way to the moon (239,000 miles), a distance that is about 10 times the diameter of the Earth. Superman was virtually unfazed. In this issue he also shrugged off magical demon-fire (which he withstood previously in Action #589).
In Superman: 10 Cent Adventure #1, Superman repeated the above feat by once again harmlessly shrugging off a blast that sent him all the way to the moon. At times, Superman has faced impossibly powerful foes with strength even greater than his own. Though outmatched in strength, he still endured these beatings impressively.
In Superman #22, he withstood several blows from Quex-El, a pocketverse Kryptonian whose strength seemed comparable to Pre-Crisis levels. In Action Comics # 591, he withstood blows from the Pre-Crisis Superboy (a being who could juggle planets and tow a solar system) without visible injury, but this may have been artistic license.
In Adventures of Superman #480, Superman survived immersion in the sun for the first time, but with great difficulty. This was actually a RED sun at the time, due to the Eradicator's manipulation.
In both the Superman: Last God of Krypton one shot and Superman Man of Steel #50, Superman survived immersion in the outer layers of the Earth's yellow sun enjoyably, received extra power from the sun, and effortlessly escaped the sun’s gravitational pull.
Furthermore, in both Action Comics # 782 and Superman Man of Steel #64, Superman survived the core of the sun without any problems. The pressure at the core of the sun is equal to 250 billion Earth atmospheres.
In Adventures of Superman #477, Superman survived the destruction of a sun eater, at its very core. A sun eater is an enormously energetic cloud that literally eats both the energy and mass of whole stars. The sun eater was imploded by an advanced (30th century technology) bomb that Superman delivered to the core of the sun eater. The bomb went off before Superman could free himself from the nucleus, and the sun eater was obliterated. Quite an energetic event since the sun-eater was considerably larger than a star, had been in existence for millenia and had consumed the energy of many stars by travelling from galaxy to galaxy.
Following the explosion, in Action Comics #664, Superman’s body was hurled across space and crash-landed on Earth. He was unconscious but physically, completely intact and undamaged. He received no medical attention. He woke up the next day and, after a brief moment of disorientation, regained his balance and was none the worse for wear.
In JLA #41, Superman absorbed the energy of the Mageddon Warhead, a device capable, at the minimum, of vaporizing half a galaxy. If you believe the Angels in Heaven, Mageddon was "the primordial annihilator" capable of literally destroying everything, and necessitating that the Angels oversee the construction of a new universe. Visibly distressed by the absorption, Superman still suffered no harm, and even smiled afterwards.
In Action Comics #696, Superman survived passage through a cosmic wormhole. According to current theory, a cosmic wormhole is created when two point singularities- i.e., two black holes- cause space-time to "fold", thus creating a passageway from one part of the universe to another. The forces involved should destroy all matter.
In JLA #77, Superman contained a black hole, capable of annihilating the solar system, within his hands.
In Man of Tomorrow #13, it took the combined effort of Martian Manhunter, Big Barda, Steel, Supergirl, and Wonder Woman to physically restrain Superman. They dogpiled him, but admitted, "we can't hold him for long!".
Action Comics Annual #7: Fighting in space, Superman successfully resisted the pull from a black hole that had opened up directly below (inches from) his feet. The miniature black hole had been induced by advanced alien war technology.
Alone against the Daxamite Lar Gand, (Daxamites are the genetic cousins to, but reputed to be more powerful than, Kryptonians), Superman soundly KO’d Lar, despite the fact that Superman was operating on empty lungs on the airless surface of the moon (Lar had air in his lungs however).
Action Comics #784: Superman flat out walked through a maximum intensity energy attack from a Joker-possessed Green Lantern that was intended to kill him.
Superman has survived some truly catastrophic explosions:In Superman/Doomsday: Hunter/Prey, Superman survived, at ground zero, a blast equal to "a million nuclear bombs" (according to the energy being Waverider). The explosion was caused by the destruction of the power generator for the entire planet of Calaton; the energy was drawn from the planetary core. Superman did not suffer any physical damage, but was momentarily rendered inert, and stated that he felt concussed. He then got up and boxed a little more with Doomsday, who also survived the blast.
In Superman #3, Superman survived the dreaded fire pits of Apokolips, but suffered a spell of amnesia. Each fire pit takes up a large portion of Apokolips’ surface; Apokolips is a much larger planet than Earth. On Earth, a fire pit would be a continent-sized blast furnace.
In Adventures of Superman #478, as part of the Time and Time Again storyline, a time-displaced Superman survived- without so much as batting an eye- the nuclear destruction of the entire moon in the year 2995. The moon had been lined with sufficient nuclear devices to disintegrate it in one shot. When the moon was obliterated, Superman was actually within the moon (structures had been built beneath the surface of the moon). He did not suffer any harm and did not lose consciousness.
This may come off as a silly question, but if the Hulk has “unlimited” strength when he’s enraged, could he throw Superman across the galaxy providing he could get a hold of him? I would think if the Hulk could so much as land a punch, then a grab might not be so much a stretch.
Another thing. I’m pretty sure Superman can breath in space, providing there are trace elements available. If he’s thrown outside the known Galaxy, would he survive? If so, how the heck long would it take for him to get back?
Well, considering that Superman can fly, and has demonstrated the ability to stop on a dime in space after being flung at tremendous speeds, by the Hulk of all people, I think it's a safe bet that it wouldn't work for the Hulk. Now, if the Hulk somehow managed to throw him at like 100,000 times the speed of light, to where Superman was outside of the galaxy in a nanosecond, then post-Crisis Superman might be screwed. Then again, Superman could probably harness that incredible speed to travel in time like pre-Crisis Superman could by exceeding the speed of light. It's up to the discretion of the writer. So, theoretically, post-Crisis Superman could get out of such a predicament. This would be no problem for pre-Crisis or Superman Prime though.
In a similar situation, how would the Hulk return to the Earth after being tossed in a similar manner? Let's just say that Superman grabs the Hulk by an arm or leg, like he did in the 1999 Hulk Vs Superman crossover, and throws him merely outside of the solar system? Heck, just to Jupiter? How would the Hulk fare in such a situation? 😉
Superman can fly at a fraction of lightspeed. Getting thrown into space isn't a big problem for him.
Superman has a distinct advantage with superspeed and flight. Heat vision and super-breath won't help him much in this fight, but Superman has more overall versatility.
Superman is more likely to win, but I can see Hulk winning as well. If Superman decides to slug it out with Savage Hulk, he's toast.
Hmmm, if they're fighting with their full potential, Supeman will take this.
If they're fighting in character the Hulk will take this. Superman will hold back at first seeing that the Hulk isn't the smartest guy in the world and Supes would see he's just confused and not really a bad guy. He'd get drawn into a slug fest with the hulk all the while holding back, this will just piss the hulk off more. By the time Superman decides to get serious I think it'd be too late and he'd get overwhelmed.
Superman can beat hulk and hulk can beat superman depends on the writing and story. If superman tries too go toe to toe with savage hulk he will get killed plane and simple, if superman uses his head he can beat him. Superman can beat any of his carnations Mr.fix-it, professor hulk, he has a 50/50 chance with savage hulk. But if he fights like war-hulk and Maestro death of superman all over again and he will dying alone this time 🙂.
I like both characters, but the hulk doesn't get respect like he should from comic fans. To many DC fan-boys think that superman can't lose to the hulk, Thor, gladiator, silver surfer etc he can if it's written well but that doesn't happen to often like it should.
Originally posted by The Flash
Why would Superman go toe to toe with the Hulk? He already knows what would happen if he stalls a fight so why would he be stupid enough to make a fight against such a monster last long?
Why would he go toe to toe? Because that's Superman for you. He holds back all the time. He COULD kill the Hulk but he wouldn't, especially stupid Hulk. He's too nice a guy; and it'd come back to bite him in this fight. IMO anyway.
Under the right conditions, the Hulk can stomp Superman. But then there's all of those other pretty little powers that the Man of Steel has, and the fact that he can think.
It's just the fact that Superman is just far too powerful. For anyone, ever. It's why I, for the most part, dislike him. But despite my distaste for the character, he's gonna win. Even if the Hulk manages to get strong enough to out-strong Superman, Superman outclasses him in every other way.
Yes, Superman outclasses Hulk in everything but strength, you're right.
But Superman also has a lot of compassion. I suppose he could do a near light speed full force punch to hulk's skull and kill him but he would never, ever do that to the hulk.
If Superman wanted to he could have tossed Doomsday straight up to heaven but he didn't; and DD was obviously a bad guy trying to do bad things. He wasn't some confused oaf who just wants to be left alone.
Eh, I like to do these things in character, sue me. And in character, I think Hulk takes it.
Well, we've all seen what happens when Superman and the Hulk fight. Superman swoops down and tries to talk to the Hulk. The Hulk sucker punches Superman while he's talking. Then, Superman pretty much says fine, have it your way, and beats the tar out of the Hulk. Unless the Hulk stumbles upon some Gold Kryptonite, he's done for.
Originally posted by SupersKillsHulk
Well, we've all seen what happens when Superman and the Hulk fight. Superman swoops down and tries to talk to the Hulk. The Hulk sucker punches Superman while he's talking. Then, Superman pretty much says fine, have it your way, and beats the tar out of the Hulk. Unless the Hulk stumbles upon some Gold Kryptonite, he's done for.
3 crossovers.
Other than the fight we've discussed, there were two Superman vs. Hulk fights.
Fight 1: Savage Hulk vs. Pre-crisis Superman.
Hulk is wandering through metropolis in enraged, Superman attacks Hulk. Hulk throws a spindel of cable at Superman, Superman blocks it, and punches Hulk. Hulk tackles Superman into a building, the building collapses. Superman thinks Hulk was hurt by the collapsing building, he goes to check on him. Hulk suckerpunches Superman, sending him miles away. After landing, Superman rebounds, and goes to attempt to stop Hulk. He withstands one of Hulk's punches without moving, then, he blocks a punch, and using his superspeed, he grabs the device that is irritating Hulk, and destroys it causing him to revert.
Fight 2: Superman vs The Professor Hulk.
Professor Hulk suckerpunches Superman, Superman punches Hulk, and then lands another blow to easily knock him out. Even then, he says, "He almost took everything I had."
Superman knocking out the Professor Hulk doesn't impress me. Doctor Octopus has knocked the Professor unconscious. So has Juggernaut. He is less durable, much weaker than the Savage Hulk. No one has ever sucessfully knocked the Savage Hulk unconscious in a fist fight.
Superman's only true advantages are flight and superspeed.
Originally posted by Wanderer259
Under the right conditions, the Hulk can stomp Superman. But then there's all of those other pretty little powers that the Man of Steel has, and the fact that he can think.It's just the fact that Superman is just far too powerful. For anyone, ever. It's why I, for the most part, dislike him. But despite my distaste for the character, he's gonna win. Even if the Hulk manages to get strong enough to out-strong Superman, Superman outclasses him in every other way.
Superman isn't too powerful for anyone to fight; it's not like he's God or TOAA. I could list a hundred characters that would hand Superman his ass.
Originally posted by The Flash
Why would Superman go toe to toe with the Hulk? He already knows what would happen if he stalls a fight so why would he be stupid enough to make a fight against such a monster last long?
If Superman plays it smart, he will win. However, he doesn't always do that, leaving a margin of error of about 30-40%. If he slugs it out with Hulk, he will lose.