Superman got one win, against Professor Hulk, in a fanvoted crossover. In two fights, (one Pre-crisis, one post,) they stalemated. Fighting an extremely pissed off Savage Hulk, Supes wouldn't have any choice but to take Hulk into space.
There are situations in whisch Superman would win, and there are situations in which Hulk would win. Superman wins most of the fights because of the magnitude and the diversity of his powers. It's that simple.
"What fights dont you agree with Olympian?"
Storm beating Wonder Woman
Batman beating Captain America
Superman beating Hulk
Wolverine beating Lobo
Spiderman beating Superboy
I dont agree with these for example.
And Thor didnt defeated Captain Marvel. He defeatd Billy. Even if he had the upperhand, the way they made the "win" was stupid.
It can go either way tho.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Spiderman beating Superboy: Shouldn't happen
Surfer beating GL Kyle Rayner: Should happen
Storm beating Wonder Woman: One bolt of lightning? Wondie was jobbed hard.
Batman beating Captain America: Shouldn't happen
Aquaman beating Namor: Shouldn't happen
Superman beating Professor Hulk: 3 punches? Pfft. Even for Prof Hulk, that's BS.
Thor beating Captain Marvel: Should happen.
Flash beating Quicksilver: Should happen.
Robin beating Jubilee: Didn't care.
Wolverine beating Lobo: Shouldn't happen.
Elecktra beating Catwoman: Should happen.Fan votes mean nothing.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Superman got one win, against Professor Hulk, in a fanvoted crossover. In two fights, (one Pre-crisis, one post,) they stalemated. Fighting an extremely pissed off Savage Hulk, Supes wouldn't have any choice but to take Hulk into space.
The Pre-crisis fight wasn't a stalemate. Superman took everything the Hulk had without budging once he decided he didn't want to be moved. This was the Savage Hulk too. Superman could've creamed him no problem but chose to defuse the situation by destroying the noise making bug by his ear which was making him angry. So no BS about the Savage Hulk not being angry. He was pissed, and still couldn't anything but get a sucker punch in. Other than that, he couldn't put a scratch on Supes.
There are situations in whisch Superman would win, and there are situations in which Hulk would win. Superman wins most of the fights because of the magnitude and the diversity of his powers. It's that simple.
Both characters could most certainly be written to win. I agree there, and I agree that Superman would win more often than not.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Different incarnations, different writers, different abilities. Savage Hulk doesn't have a big problem with space.Did you see what happened to Gladiator after he tried that? I would hate to see this happen to Supes...
CC, is today's Hulk the Savage Hulk? Last I heard, he's the Professor. Also, can you explain why the Savage Hulk would be able to survive the vacuum of space, while the Professor cannot. I see the scans showing both situations, but if we are talking today's Hulk vs. today's Superman, I'd say we have to go with him not being able to survive the vacuum. Otherwise, we can just go Pre-crisis Supes vs. Savage Hulk, and we know that Pre-Crisis Supes will maul the Savage Hulk, infinite strength and all.
Lastly, had the writers wanted Gladiator to win, he would've had the Hulk hurling past the moon before the Hulk could've reacted. Of course, we can't have a franchise character getting killed like that, can we? Superman could've just as easily thrown the Hulk into the sun by the leg in the manner he threw him in the 1999 crossover.
The Hulk could beat Superman if the writers made Superman forget his array of powers. Otherwise, Superman just has too many powers and would overwhelm the Hulk.
Originally posted by SupersKillsHulk
CC, is today's Hulk the Savage Hulk? Last I heard, he's the Professor. Also, can you explain why the Savage Hulk would be able to survive the vacuum of space, while the Professor cannot. I see the scans showing both situations, but if we are talking today's Hulk vs. today's Superman, I'd say we have to go with him not being able to survive the vacuum. Otherwise, we can just go Pre-crisis Supes vs. Savage Hulk, and we know that Pre-Crisis Supes will maul the Savage Hulk, infinite strength and all.Lastly, had the writers wanted Gladiator to win, he would've had the Hulk hurling past the moon before the Hulk could've reacted. Of course, we can't have a franchise character getting killed like that, can we? Superman could've just as easily thrown the Hulk into the sun by the leg in the manner he threw him in the 1999 crossover.
The Hulk could beat Superman if the writers made Superman forget his array of powers. Otherwise, Superman just has too many powers and would overwhelm the Hulk.
No, today's Hulk is not the Savage Hulk. Nowadays, Hulk is a merger of all the other Hulks, with Savage Hulk surpressed. In your scan, that's the current, merged Hulk.
Savage Hulk is much more durable than other incarnations. He's fought in the vaccum of space for days at a time, and he can hold his breath indefinitely.
Hulk did pretty well against pre-crisis Supes, in the first crossover. I don't see the fight being much different if you include him. Pre-crisis Supes is stronger and faster than today's Superman, but neither of these qualities would change the fight much.
I agree with you completely. Superman is too versatile for the Hulk. Hulk is the ultimate brick, but that's about as far as it goes. Pre-crisis or not, if Superman didn't have superspeed, or flight, he'd be in serious trouble. 😉
I agree that if Superman didn't have his flight or super speed he'd be pretty much screwed, although there are still a few ways he could be written to win. The Savage Hulk would most definitely have the advantage in that situation though.
One question though. Why wouldn't the Professor be able to survive in the vacuum of space, or be able to hold his breath indefinitely, while the Savage Hulk can? Surely the Professor, being as intelligent as he is, would know the extent of his abilities. I chalk it up to writers changing things or being unaware of things from older issues. It happens in virtually all lengthy series, including Superman.
Savage Hulk can beat superman, and superman can beat savage hulk depends on the story it's 50/50. If superman wants to trade blows with hulk he will get his a$$ kicked bad. In a calm state the savage hulk has been stated at 100 tons + so they are even in strength(it's Mr. fixit hulk strength is at 75 tons), longer the battle goes on more it will turn into hulk's favor, strength increasing by seconds, his durability increases also while superman will start too get tired and that's when he is in trouble. Superman will have to be smart in fighting the hulk he can't fight him like he did doomsday, doomsday had better endurance than superman where the hulks is already top notch.
If Marvel and DC each comes out with comic showing Superman defeating hulk, Hulk defeating Superman with a good story and great fighting I will buy both comics. I like superman and hulk they are favorite characters since I was 5 years old. As true fan without biases it's 50/50.
Superman> Grey Hulk
Superman> Professor Hulk
Superman> Banner Hulk
Superman= Savage Hulk
Superman<<<< The Maestro Hulk
Superman <<<<The Devil Hulk
Question: I know that the Hulk supposedly has infinite stamina. However, I've seen in numerous older issues where the Hulk becomes tired. I assume this is just writer inconsistency, or is it?
Also, the Savage Hulk tends to get bored in fights, especially if it's someone he cannot catch or finish off. I believe this could be a serious detrement in a fight against Superman.
Originally posted by zachrivard
if it savage hulk shouldn't superman get a better version of himself?
superman is way too fast to get hit by hulk how is hulk gonna hit someone moving at near lightspeeds???
And no Superman is not even close to light speed on earth
Superman wins because of his speed and other powers, but Hulk will defiantly get hits