Originally posted by Never
Gentlemen, gentlemen...which version of the Hulk are we referencing? The Professor? Mindless? Savage?One, Superman's strength is not potentially infinite, period. We are discussing the current Superman's strength, not the PC Superman. John Byrne did away with that Superman.
Superman is not "more powerful" than most Gods. Are you on crack? Which Gods? The New Gods? Marvel's Gods? He is not "more powerful" than either. The only limits are his own? *chuckle* Let's ask Batman about Superman's limits 😉
Re: Superman's "heat vision," anyone care to provide a link that supports this regarding the current Superman's heat vision? I am willing to bet that one will simply not find any credible information that states his heat vision reaches into the millions of degrees. One can theorize, but is that a credible source? By the way, Hulk's skin is able to withstand temperatures exceeding 4,000 degrees. His skin only starts to blister at that point 😉 And all are assuming that Hulk would just stand there and let Superman burn him with his heat vision?
Re: Superman moving the moon, is this the current version? Hell, PC Superboy moved several planets, but that was the PC (Pre-Crisis) version. Superman has been depowered quite a bit.
Re: Hulk's starting strength being 70 tons - that is the GREY Hulk. Professor? 100 tons. Mindless? 100 tons. Savage? 100 tons...and what, are they bench pressing one another? Hulk can match Superman in strength.
Um, Superman cannot get knocked out? LoL, I will let you all think about that for awhile. A good while. And by the way, Doomsday was just a poor man's version of the Hulk.
Notice I did say "poor man's version?"
Suffice it to say that one can pen a credible story arc wherein either can beat the other.
Superman is so overrated.
Superman is always underrated in one of these fights I know this post crisis version is always never using full strength I remember hearing he threw a ship bigger then the moon half way across the galaxy and no one knows the full extent of Supermans heat vision When Hulk is at a calm state his strength is around 70 tons and raises when it gets mad.
Oh and according to a comic book writer he is in an upper class then Darkseid who is a new god. According to others Superman has made Darkseid his ***** at sometims.
You're talking about the Earth-stealers. He pushed a moon-sized spaceship through hyperspace. That was Pre-crisis Superman.
Hulk in a calm state is NOT about 70 tons. Put the damn handbooks down.
Strength isn't a matter. Hulk can go toe to toe with Superman in strength. Superspeed is the clincher.
Superman is never underrated.
Originally posted by Droopy
Hulk will just keep on getting mad and stronger until supes cant beat him. oh Hulk is the color of kryptonite to make things worse
Err... gotta disagree here. Sure, Hulk could become much stronger than Superman. Superman is still way faster, and smarter, and he can fly. A pissed off Hulk is almost impossible to KO, but if all else fails, Superman could chuck Hulk into orbit. Superman most definitely has the advantage in this fight. He takes it.
Hulk's coloring has nothing to do with this fight... 😕
Originally posted by yahman
Current Abomination had his ass handed to him by MORTAL Herc. (One punch) And Abomination can give Current Hulk a good match. Based on recent displays Hulk is not illustated at the Levels he was once at. Superman therefore kicks his ass.
Partly true. No, Hulk is not at the same levels he once was.
HOWEVER, Abomination had his skull caved in by Hulk. Hulk nearly killed mortal Hercules. Superman has too much versatility to let Hulk pound on him. Current Hulk isn't as durable as he once was, so things won't be very good for him in this fight. Even if this was Savage Hulk, it's a very tough fight. Supes has a lot to bring to the table.
Damn you Peter David. Bring back the Savage Hulk. 🙁
Originally posted by Droopy
Well one power of hulks is the more mad he gets the stronger he gets so he might get messed up but he aint going down superman aint gonna just whoop on hulk because hulk well eventaully get strong enought to pose threat.
If this were Savage Hulk, that would be a big plus for Hulk. Savage Hulk's insanely durable, and he has limitless potential for strength.
Even still, Superman can avoid most of Hulk's punches. Hulk is fast for a big guy, and he could land a few shots, but he's got nothing on Supes. Savage Hulk wouldn't have to worry about getting messed up too bad. His body is virtually indestructable, and he has an insane regeneration factor. He could take anything Superman can dish out, and keep coming. But, Superman still has the advantages of speed and flight.
Don't get me wrong. If Superman didn't have super-speed and flight, Hulk would win. But, Superman is Superman. Current Hulk would get his ass waxed by Supes. Any Hulk would be hard pressed to beat Supes.
I dont think it is only the super-speed and flight which is an advantage here as Superman will eventually tire (as has been displayed). Savage Hulk has the potential to actually get stronger, more durable, faster regeneration as the fight progresses - Superman will tire before the Hulk does. Superman's healing/regeneration is no match for the Hulks.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
If this were Savage Hulk, that would be a big plus for Hulk. Savage Hulk's insanely durable, and he has limitless potential for strength.Even still, Superman can avoid most of Hulk's punches. Hulk is fast for a big guy, and he could land a few shots, but he's got nothing on Supes. Savage Hulk wouldn't have to worry about getting messed up too bad. His body is virtually indestructable, and he has an insane regeneration factor. He could take anything Superman can dish out, and keep coming. But, Superman still has the advantages of speed and flight.
Don't get me wrong. If Superman didn't have super-speed and flight, Hulk would win. But, Superman is Superman. Current Hulk would get his ass waxed by Supes. Any Hulk would be hard pressed to beat Supes.
Originally posted by Fanboy
Superman is always underrated in one of these fights I know this post crisis version is always never using full strength I remember hearing he threw a ship bigger then the moon half way across the galaxy and no one knows the full extent of Supermans heat vision When Hulk is at a calm state his strength is around 70 tons and raises when it gets mad.
Oh and according to a comic book writer he is in an upper class then Darkseid who is a new god. According to others Superman has made Darkseid his ***** at sometims.
"Partly true. No, Hulk is not at the same levels he once was.
HOWEVER, Abomination had his skull caved in by Hulk. Hulk nearly killed mortal Hercules."
Just a nitpick- the Mortal Hercules Hulk fought was weaker. He has been powered up in late years. Not quite the level he once was, but its up there. Close but -not as- strong as immortal Herc.
Second, didnt Thor also ko Abom with one shot? I read a post about this before but cant confirm.
"fly and speed mean nothing look the fight between gladiator and hulk"
Hulk was so fast, Gladiator manage to grab him and take him into space.
"hulk doesn 't start a t 70 tons the enclycopédia of hulk by tom de falco says that hulk can lift easily 70 tons when he is calm"
Hulk is -not- a cl 70 when "calm". I agree with this.