Originally posted by snoopdogg
It wasnt a punch by the way. Hulk threw Superman into space.Hulk is tough. No doubts there.
That fight was one of the best crossovers. Thanks Snoop. Honestly guys, Supes with all his array of powers would pretty much take Hulk 7 maybe 8 times out of 10. Supes has too many advantages where Hulk only has one... His strength.
jgiant, in case you missed it, there are earlier pics showing Superman whooping up on the Hulk in that same issue. Superman slams him into a mountain, grabs his leg and swings him around like a rag doll, and throws him like he's nothing. All Supes had to do was through him vertically into space rather than horizontally into some cactuses to end him. Supes had Hulk's life in his hands and chose not to kill him. He could've tossed him into the sun if he had wanted to. Heck, if we're going to talk about Savage Hulk versus Pre-Crisis Superman, Supes could've flown back in time and prevented the Hulk from even coming into existence. Supes has too many ways to win.
No one is arguing that. But your talking power wise overall. not the strenght issue.
Savage Hulk being able to punch and send Pre Crisis Superman flying does speak for his strenght.
There wer people who could hang in strenght with Kal back then. Like He-Man. Like Hercules. Like under some writters, Wonder Woman. Like Orion. Like Captain Marvel and Shavam.
Then you had pll stronger than him. Validus, Darkseid and Mon- El for starters.
Originally posted by olympian
No one is arguing that. But your talking power wise overall. not the strenght issue.Savage Hulk being able to punch and send Pre Crisis Superman flying does speak for his strenght.
There wer people who could hang in strenght with Kal back then. Like He-Man. Like Hercules. Like under some writters, Wonder Woman. Like Orion. Like Captain Marvel and Shavam.
Then you had pll stronger than him. Validus, Darkseid and Mon- El for starters.
I don't think Darkseid was stronger, but Mongul was a true powerhouse !!
Pre crisis Darkseid was stronger yes. He would do things like wooping Superboy and Supergirl together after a battle with Orion.
He was a pre crisis level team buster. Validus was as well. There was another whose name fails me (looked like a montrous living torch) that was said to be even stronger than Validus.
And yeah i forgot about Mongul. Add him too. The beating he gave Wonder woman and superman speaks for itself.
Originally posted by olympian
Pre crisis Darkseid was stronger yes. He would do things like wooping Superboy and Supergirl together after a battle with Orion.He was a pre crisis level team buster. Validus was as well. There was another whose name fails me (looked like a montrous living torch) that was said to be even stronger than Validus.
And yeah i forgot about Mongul. Add him too. The beating he gave Wonder woman and superman speaks for itself.
What was whent wrong with D.C. comics ? how come their sales began to flag considerably ? I heard the superman stories leading up to the Crisis wheren't to bad. I do think Superman is getting too the stage where he is as powerful as he once was. I hear he is travelling far faster than light, and his getting new powers every issue. 🙁
Just to put this whole hulk dieing in space thing to rest, Spider-man had punched the hulk into space once (he was currently Captain universe and could probally lift around 100 tons instead of his standard 10) and Hulk was thinking while in orbit I can hold my breath for a realy long time the cold dosent bother me, his only problem was thast seeing as he was grey hulk and he transformed only at night that once he hit the suns rays he would turn back to banner and die. Course spidey saved him, but i'm sure if he was the green hulk he could have just landed on the moon or a meteor or summit and jumped back to earth, so hulk can survive in space.
Oh and Hulks starting power is this Grey hulk 85 tons (grey hulks power is also fixed at this level)
And all green hulks start off with 100 tons and grow when they get angry. Course I realy dont know how strong superman is hes just realy strong but with all his other abilties he would win. This comin from a guy who thinks superman looks gay and forgot to put his pants under his spandex.
You seem to forget that since the Hulk can't fly, he can't guide himself to the moon or an asteriod. All Supes has to do is get him into space then use his heat vision to guide him to the sun. While the vacuum or cold may not kill him, he's not going to survive in the heart of the sun. Considering Pre-Crisis Supes can fly at 100,000 times the speed of light, as seen in his race with the Flash in the issud titled "Race To The Edge Of The Universe", Supes, if he wanted to kill the Hulk rather than subdue him, could him grab his leg and have him in the sun in a second.
the hulk's can survive in space doesn't matter what hulk becaue their body produces this substance and blah blah blah and they have exceptional lung capacity correct me if i'm wrong but what's this current hulk that can't
anyway i don't know why prof hulk said he can't survive in space maybe he didn't know in that form he could survive in space.
Originally posted by SupersKillsHulk
You seem to forget that since the Hulk can't fly, he can't guide himself to the moon or an asteriod. All Supes has to do is get him into space then use his heat vision to guide him to the sun. While the vacuum or cold may not kill him, he's not going to survive in the heart of the sun. Considering Pre-Crisis Supes can fly at 100,000 times the speed of light, as seen in his race with the Flash in the issud titled "Race To The Edge Of The Universe", Supes, if he wanted to kill the Hulk rather than subdue him, could him grab his leg and have him in the sun in a second.
And I suppose prof hulk could survive but he wasnt sure, he couldnt rembewr when spidey punched him there for example, I could be wrong there might be a change in prof hulk i dnt know about.
Originally posted by Sparkz
Well yeah I get that, I'm just saying if he is lucky enough, to have something to jump back off, all he needs is one jump seeing as in space there is nothing to slow you down so once he pushes himself back to earth he wouldnt stop till he made it back, that and i dont think superman could throw him in the sun he wouldnt let him, I could be wrong but supermans stregth confuses me, at least with the hulk the madder he gets the stronger he gets, superman just gets stronger with differnt forms, maybe I should try finding superman books hmmm. but supes has this 1 down anyway from what I have heard one hit from him and its all over.And I suppose prof hulk could survive but he wasnt sure, he couldnt rembewr when spidey punched him there for example, I could be wrong there might be a change in prof hulk i dnt know about.
He wouldnt have to throw the hulk to the sun he could simply grab him and fly him to the sun in seconds considering he has done it to darkseid and wonderwoman already, Supermans stregth level seems to change because usually he is always holding back, depending on the opponent. Hulk can hold his breath for a long time but eventually he will have to breath again or he will revert back to bruce banner either way he will die.