too close to call maybe the covies could win at least on a land battle, in space it's hard to say, i'd say whoever had numbers/shot first/better tactics as i think plasma torpedo's etc. would destroy basically any imperial ship, covenant ships seem at least equal, i'd say it comes down to tactics, so in all fairness the imperials kick ass unless the arbiter is in command, never mind vader>all halo charachters but for land battle arbiter could kill most sw charachters including many jedi as could master chief. but back on topic, it all comes down to tactics and imperial admirals seem to be better tacticians then most covenant idiots so imps win.
Originally posted by Darth_FroboIt's already been settled that on land, the Covenant wins, but in space, they'd be annhilated.
too close to call maybe the covies could win at least on a land battle, in space it's hard to say, i'd say whoever had numbers/shot first/better tactics as i think plasma torpedo's etc. would destroy basically any imperial ship, covenant ships seem at least equal, i'd say it comes down to tactics, so in all fairness the imperials kick ass unless the arbiter is in command, never mind vader>all halo charachters but for land battle arbiter could kill most sw charachters including many jedi as could master chief. but back on topic, it all comes down to tactics and imperial admirals seem to be better tacticians then most covenant idiots so imps win.
Originally posted by Tangible God
It's already been settled that on land, the Covenant wins, but in space, they'd be annhilated.
that depends on the power of the imps shields,if a plasma torpedo could instantly burn thorugh multiple layers of the most powerful titanium known to man they may be able to penetreate imp shields, the other thing is could imp blasters penetrate covenant shields which could withstand hundreds of missles and nuclear weapons, as i dont know the full specs on imp weaponry/shielding i'm not quite sure i could say with all certainty the imps would pull it off.
Originally posted by Darth_FroboActually, sheer numbers, speed, firepower, and energy shielding (which is quite effective against Covenant plasma) is what gives the Empire the edge.
that depends on the power of the imps shields,if a plasma torpedo could instantly burn thorugh multiple layers of the most powerful titanium known to man they may be able to penetreate imp shields, the other thing is could imp blasters penetrate covenant shields which could withstand hundreds of missles and nuclear weapons, as i dont know the full specs on imp weaponry/shielding i'm not quite sure i could say with all certainty the imps would pull it off.
On land though, the Covenant seem to be able decimate the Imps. One Elite is enough to take out a squad of Stormtroopers and the AT-AT's are the best the Imps can conjure, and it's obvious Wraith's and Ghost's and whatever the Hell else the Covies hav, can take out the Empire's ground Forces.
Originally posted by Tangible God
Actually, sheer numbers, speed, firepower, and energy shielding (which is quite effective against Covenant plasma) is what gives the Empire the edge.On land though, the Covenant seem to be able decimate the Imps. One Elite is enough to take out a squad of Stormtroopers and the AT-AT's are the best the Imps can conjure, and it's obvious Wraith's and Ghost's and whatever the Hell else the Covies hav, can take out the Empire's ground Forces.
Don't forget the Covenant's equivalent of AT-AT's - Scarabs!
Originally posted by jollyjim311It really isn't a GROUND battle if you use orbital bombardment is it?
The Empire would use star destroyers to bomb the covenent forces on land. Then they would send down troops to finish off any survivors. Lead by the Emperors Hands, just so that they don't just have crappy Storm Troopers.
Originally posted by jollyjim311Of course the Emoire would do that.
No, but the Empire would do that. and I think the Empire would take the covenent forces on the ground. AT-ST's and AT-AT's, the covenent weapons couldn't get through their armor.
But we've been discussing whether the Empire could take on the Covenant with ONLY their ground forces.
And you're forgetting, the majority of the Imp's Ground's don't have any shielding. The AT-AT's are the most powerful of them all and they lack maneuverability. Also they lack sufficient shielding to protect against the Cov's plasma.
And the AT-ST's have absolutely NO shielding and the Wraiths could fire one shot and down go the Scouts. Stormtrooper batallions would be wasted by the Elites alone.
Not to mention the Scarabs. They're like the Halo version of Walkers and are much more capable.
And why can't burning plasma not burn through ordinary metal?
The Rebels used snowspeeders, crappy tow-craft with cables, which tripped the Walkers, ordinary cable tripped those things.
Scarabs would just have to WALK into AT-AT's to knock them over, not to mention that huge motherf*ckin cannon on the front of it.
The wraiths, when in numbers could move behind the AT-AT's and take out its legs.
Don't even get me started on Scout Walkers, they're weak and trip to easily.
Originally posted by jollyjim311What would speeder bikes do with their crappy lasers and "one shot and we're down" tactics?
The Speeder bike Troopers are really good pilots, you know, they would help a great deal. And the rebel lasers couldn't damage the AT-AT's.
And the whole SW galaxy uses lasers. So it's only natural that armour is created to repel lasers. But seering plasma isn't lasers. The Walkers had NO shielding, only tough armour.
the covenant has a much bigger kind of ship than anything the empire has other than the death star covenant have the super carrier it is 27 kilometer long can hold over a million passengers has thousands of point defense turrets hundreds of plasma turrets and seven energy projectors that can cut a unsc destroyer in half in seconds and has shields that can withstand several super mac rounds each travailing at 40% the speed of light and hitting with over 50 gigatons of power and as far as i no that is more than a match for any single empire ship. the death star wouldn't have much use other than destroying planets because covenant ships can come out of slip space extremely accurately and would only need to get close to it and if it takes several ships a couple of hours to glass a planet it would only take a few minutes for something the size of a small moon. and on the ground the empires largest vehicles the AT AT is a joke they are only 2 meters taller than a scarab and would be destroyed by being shot almost anywhere by the scarabs main gun and would be crippled by a wraith mortar to the leg or head and storm troopers are pathetic in my mind they are almost equivalent to grunts the short fat cannon fodder of halo the only difference is that grunts can actually hit what there aiming at. And if princess leia can survive a blaster bolt to the shoulder then even if they could hit an elite who is always moving and doing front flips and such then it would still do little to no damage and hunters........ other than some vehicles storm troopers would have no answer for these 12 foot tall 10 thousand pound beasts. im assuming there are only a couple billion clones but that is nothing compared to the covenant witch consist of 8 species 6 of witch have combatant roles grunts jackals elites brutes hunters drones engineers and prophets each with a population of billions and vehicles the covenant might or might not win in this area im not sure but as far as i no there are only 3 main empire vehicles speeders AT ST AT AT feel free to correct. im guessing ghosts are about equivalent to speeders an at st would only be good for anti infantry but it probably wouldn't be very effective for that either considering drones are giant flying bugs and grunts and brutes are excellent climbers and if its legs were rammed by a prowler chopper wraith specter or locust it would most likely trip and fall. any anti vehicles guns or even a well placed plasma grenade would destroy one with ease. and as i said before at ats are a joke so i will name more ways it would die. a squad of banshees would hit it in the legs of neck with there fuel rod guns, a locust would cut its legs in half with its laser, a phantom would drop some elites with explosives on its back plant them on its neck and fly away, some elite rangers would use there jet packs to fly on top of it and plant more explosives on its neck or use there energy swords to cut there way into its head, scarab trips it, orbital bombardment, a well placed shot from a particle beam rifle( i no the Armour is thick but it travels at the speed of light and passes through almost anything armored or not), stationary anti aircraft gun shoots it, grunts shoot at its legs with fuel rod guns, i think halo will win (: