Originally posted by Superherovandal
in order
1. Reed Richards.
2. Tony Stark/Bruce Wayne
3. Proffessor Xavier
4. Superman
5. Peter Parker.
6. Jean Grey
7. Flash
8.Thing
9.Juggernaut
10. Hulk
Hmm. IMO, I think Peter Parker should be number 3 or tie with number 2, even. As someone pointed out in another thread, the guy invented synthetic webbing (and the shooters) as a teenager! Why wouldnt, for example, Batman come up with something as convenient or reusable as that, instead of the bulkier and fire-em-once-n-yer-done catapult guns? Just cuz he has to stick with a bat theme?
Originally posted by Mindship
Hmm. IMO, I think Peter Parker should be number 3 or tie with number 2, even. As someone pointed out in another thread, the guy invented synthetic webbing (and the shooters) as a teenager! Why wouldnt, for example, Batman come up with something as convenient or reusable as that, instead of the bulkier and fire-em-once-n-yer-done catapult guns? Just cuz he has to stick with a bat theme?
I don't think any of them invented anything as advanced as Brother 1 and OMAC.
Originally posted by ScooblessWhy does your knowledge over various aspects figure your INTELLIGENCE QUOTIENT then?
knowledge and intelligence are not the same thing
It's wisdom you're thinking of that is not the same.
And it's the wisdom not the intelligence that Superman lacks.
yeah but does he fool Darkseid, prep for SUpes constantly, manage to figure that Brother Eye is after EMP, manage to take out of commission 200,000 OMACs by fooling the OMACS to come near the EMP? I would say he is above Peter Parker. Besides the only reason he is like that is because people like Bats just the way he is. Why change what lots of people already like?
Superman is able to comprehend Science way beyond genius level humans - He can also use this to a pply that science ergo his knowledge base and his problem solving are super.
Reed imo has a mutant brain as does Tony Stark - In ultimate Iron man Starks brain and nervous system are special, mainstream Marvel needs to explain how Tony, Doom and Reed are at Forges level - as it makes a mockery of his being a mutant.
Bruce Wayne also has abilities which really make him beyond a normal human - you might be able to train your body and mind to be as good as the Bat is at one thing - but at everything?
Banner if you mean Banner and not the hulk is the same as is peter parker.
They are all Super duper intelligences - but you only have one true Superman.
Originally posted by Scoobless
a computer can store vast quantities of knowledge, that doesn't make it intelligent
true enough and the flash operates on maths problems like an ultra computer he can perform ultra fast calcs - Supes can do this but has a huge knowledge base and therefore his IQ would be incredible. As IQ is mainly numerical (even when using letters as its patterns 😕 problem solving
Originally posted by SmaxxerI'm not saying he doesn't, just not apperently on the level of many other characters as many times he gets confused, as compared to say Batman, who is very worldly smart. Superman, as an alien TRYING to be Human, can't always understand.
Who says Superman doesn't have wisdom ? 😕
Intelligence (broadly speaking) is usually defined by psychologists as the ability to solve problems and depends on three basic components:
1. Database: knowledge/information/data/stuff-that-is-known derived empirically, rationally and (if you're so inclinded) spiritually/meditatively.
2. Logic: being able to make rational/black-n-white connections between otherwise separate elements in the database.
3. Creativity/Imagination: being able to make connections that are--not illogical--but alogical/translogical; "colorful," as opposed to the "black-n-white" of logic.
Wisdom is intelligence plus life experience, sheer number of years (all else being equal) on the planet so as to be able to "see" patterns/connections beyond what intelligence alone can grasp (seeing the "forest for the trees," as well as the trees).
Consciousness (and this depends on your philosophical bent) is the Ground in which the Figures of Intelligence/Wisdom occur.
Originally posted by WhirlysplattExactly.
true enough and the flash operates on maths problems like an ultra computer he can perform ultra fast calcs - Supes can do this but has a huge knowledge base and therefore his IQ would be incredible. As IQ is mainly numerical (even when using letters as its patterns 😕 problem solving
Look at the stuff inside of the Fortress of Solitude... enough said.
Originally posted by MindshipThanks.
Intelligence (broadly speaking) is usually defined by psychologists as the ability to solve problems and depends on three basic components:1. Database: knowledge/information/data/stuff-that-is-known derived empirically, rationally and (if you're so inclinded) spiritually/meditatively.
2. Logic: being able to make rational/black-n-white connections between otherwise separate elements in the database.
3. Creativity/Imagination: being able to make connections that are--not illogical--but alogical/translogical; "colorful," as opposed to the "black-n-white" of logic.Wisdom is intelligence plus life experience, sheer number of years (all else being equal) on the planet so as to be able to "see" patterns/connections beyond what intelligence alone can grasp (seeing the "forest for the trees," as well as the trees).
Consciousness (and this depends on your philosophical bent) is the Ground in which the Figures of Intelligence/Wisdom occur.