Superhero I.Q.

Originally posted by Mindship
Intelligence (broadly speaking) is usually defined by psychologists as the ability to solve problems and depends on three basic components:

1. Database: knowledge/information/data/stuff-that-is-known derived empirically, rationally and (if you're so inclinded) spiritually/meditatively.
2. Logic: being able to make rational/black-n-white connections between otherwise separate elements in the database.
3. Creativity/Imagination: being able to make connections that are--not illogical--but alogical/translogical; "colorful," as opposed to the "black-n-white" of logic.

Wisdom is intelligence plus life experience, sheer number of years (all else being equal) on the planet so as to be able to "see" patterns/connections beyond what intelligence alone can grasp (seeing the "forest for the trees," as well as the trees).

Consciousness (and this depends on your philosophical bent) is the Ground in which the Figures of Intelligence/Wisdom occur.

All true - but, the question was about IQ mainly numerical and pattern based problem solving - a brain working at super speed wins out imo.

Agreed.

And Superman would win that out..

But Flash could very well be taking the IQ test, and at the library finding the answers at the same time.
O.o

Originally posted by Juntai
Agreed.

And Superman would win that out..

But Flash could very well be taking the IQ test, and at the library finding the answers at the same time.
O.o

true enough

Marvel's never really explained why people like Reed and Doom can calculate and invent on such a superhuman scale. Galactus once conceded that Richards was a force of the Universe just like himself and that his existed was just as important. The most recent issue of F4 just took the idea of Reed's involvement in the universe to a whole different level.

Originally posted by jplatinum
Put them in order of iq.

[highest to last]

tony stark

bruce wayne
reed richards
peter parker
jean grey
professor x
thing
hulk
juggernaut
superman
flash

Reed Richards
Tony Stark/Superman
Bruce Wayne
Professor X
Jean Grey
Flash
Thing
Juggernaut
Hulk (depends on form though; If it's Professor Hulk than he's just below Batman)

reed richards
tony stark
bruce wayne
superman old version would be higher maybe 1
professor x
hulk mindless would be lower, Grey would be higher
thing, peter parker
jean grey
flash
big gap here
juggernaut

Originally posted by meep-meep
reed richards
tony stark
bruce wayne
professor x
superman old version would be higher maybe 1
hulk mindless would be lower, Grey would be higher
thing
peter parker
flash
jean grey
big gap here
juggernaut

Originally posted by Draco69
Reed Richards
Tony Stark/Superman
Bruce Wayne
Professor X
Jean Grey
Flash
Thing
Juggernaut
Hulk (depends on form though; If it's Professor Hulk than he's just below Batman)

Superman over Batman?

Superman, believe it or not, is smarter. Batman has more people-smarts. But it when comes to analyzing alien technology noone's heard of than Superman figures it out faster.

Kryptonians were literally genetically-engineered to be geniuses.

Yah Superman can create Tech Earth can't even really comprehend.
But--- Batman DID create Omac/Brother 1.
Which is quite insane.

Originally posted by Draco69
Superman, believe it or not, is smarter. Batman has more people-smarts. But it when comes to analyzing alien technology noone's heard of than Superman figures it out faster.

Kryptonians were literally genetically-engineered to be geniuses.

Yea I understand...so r u refering purely to processing speed? Superman wins in that department...but thats just one category while Batman's the premier inventor/brain on DC Earth...shouldnt that also increase Flash's place on your list.

I doubt it. Superman creates some crazy ass stuff in his Fortress. Phantom Zone projectors. Life-like automations. Tectonic plate shifters. Crazy stuff.

Batman is extremely smart. But not on Superman's level. But Batman is smarter than Superman in other areas.

Unfortunately Batman's jobber aura makes everyone around him seem like an drooling idiot...

Grey hulk was basically the mind of Banner with a depowered Hulk Body but still with an insane healing factor. Yes I think Bruce Banner has a greater intelligence than Professor x

Originally posted by Draco69
I doubt it. Superman creates some crazy ass stuff in his Fortress. Phantom Zone projectors. Life-like automations. Tectonic plate shifters. Crazy stuff.

Batman is extremely smart. But not on Superman's level. But Batman is smarter than Superman in other areas.

Unfortunately Batman's jobber aura makes everyone around him seem like an drooling idiot...

Yes we've said all this 🙂

Draco is right though

I say thing and spiuderman are maybe equal. I thought I put them next each other. Thing after all was an astronaut. You have to be farily intelligent to be one of those. Although Parker created those fancy web-slingers he doesn't create gadgets like that a lot. If he did I would put him higher. Also they each show great intelligence in battles. I'm thinking maybe Parker is slightly higher but I can't say for sure.

I was always told I.Q isn't what you know, it's how much you CAN know.

Like, I.Q is a cup, Batman's cup is huge and it's full of water, Slade's cup is larger than Batman's due to his serum, but his cup is no where near as full. So, technically Slade's I.Q is way above batman's, but he doesn't have the knowledge BM has.

I.Q isn't what you know.

Originally posted by long pig
I was always told I.Q isn't what you know, it's how much you CAN know.

Like, I.Q is a cup, Batman's cup is huge and it's full of water, Slade's cup is larger than Batman's due to his serum, but his cup is no where near as full. So, technically Slade's I.Q is way above batman's, but he doesn't have the knowledge BM has.

I.Q isn't what you know.

IQ is problem solving

Thing is smarter than most give him credit for. They just assume that because he uses slangs and is depicted as a meat head he's not smart. He was a college graduate and Reed Richard's roommate in college. He then became essentially the best military pilot around and an astronaut/scientist/space explorer. He's personally involved in the design and building of F4 air and space craft. Every member in the F4 are actually quite adepth in mechanics. During the period Richards was assumed dead but actually captured by Hyperstorm, Grimm and Johnny Storm were able to work on and perform maintenance on the Stealth Hawk, which was apparently the most advanced and powerful starship in the galaxy. The Thing has frequently demonstrated strategy in fighting individual and multiple opponents. He was also the leader of the F4 for a substantial period of time when Reed and Sue Richards were no longer on the team.

Originally posted by jplatinum
Put them in order of iq.

[highest to last]

tony stark

bruce wayne
reed richards
peter parker
jean grey
professor x
thing
hulk
juggernaut
superman
flash

1. Reed Richards

2. Tony Stark

3. Bruce Wayne

4. Professor X

5. Superman

6. Peter Parker

7. Jean Grey

8. Flash

9. Thing

10. Juggernaut

11. Hulk

IQ is a very stupid concept, I know it sounds weird but it really is. It only measures a small amount of your general intelligence, and is in most cases mathematical and grammatical based.

It measures like 10 or 15 percent of your actual potential. And the more you do IQ tests, the higher your score will be, because you're beginning to understand how the system works. But that does NOT mean you are actually smarter, you just happen to understand the tricks of it.

So when you score let's say 85 points the first time, you'll score 120 points a few (different) IQ tests later, not because you have actually become smarter, but because the same type of questions are always repeated in those tests.

IQ tests are very very very relative.