Galactus, Apocalypse, Juggernaut, Gladiator, Thanos, Onslaught, Hulk, Thor, Champion · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

don't think they ever had a test they way they did in that issue, but i see no reason why savage COULDN'T stop him of he got angry enough. and savage has manhandled absorbing man in the past and tossed juggs around as well. even prof tossed juggs around a bit after he realized who he was.

all's i'm saying is there wasn't enough evidence (war wasn't around long enough) for everyone to be making unsubstantiated claims about him and his power level. MAYBE he was more powerful, but based on his appearance, there was nothing to say he was stronger, more durable than savage. just that he had a sword . . .

BobbyD Animal Lover

Thanks, Leo.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

no prob. just my opinion though. i'd love to hear what others think. it WAS an interesting question.

The Ion Senior Member

Depends on what level G is at. Thanos has done decent damage to Galactus before. Half the team would get one shotted into oblivion though.

BobbyD Animal Lover

...thought I had to ask, Ion. Thanks for your response. I could easily see Thanos doing this, knowing he couldn't take G alone.

Yeah, I think it would come down to whether or not Big G recently fed or not.

HigH ScholaR Senior Member

read a post mentioning about hulk and matter manipulation resistance, well here's what was availablre at the hulk respect thread countering any matter/molecualr rearanging done to Hulk

Glazier's transmutation power fails against the Hulk:
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/6061/GlassHulk.jpg

The Grey Gargoyle has turned Banner into stone. When night falls, a power that works on Thor...
http://img130.exs.cx/img130/6466/GGargoyleHulk.jpg

Banner (and obviously the Hulk) is unaffected the Evolutionary's devolving power:
http://img159.exs.cx/img159/7897/evolutionary17or.jpg

Goom shrinks the Hulk... and the Hulk promptly grows back to normal size.
http://img78.exs.cx/img78/3741/goom6ca.jpg

HigH ScholaR Senior Member

hmmmmmmmmmm

Hulk vs Thor

i give this to hulk then shall i

I'm just giving credit to HULk here, it justs seems he's being bashed or underestimated, although i can't but help think someone is helping Hulk getting bashed as they are talking nonsense about him even though they are trying to help.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, and RE: the war hulk issue. the only improvement i saw was his sword. give savage a sword and he could also easily chop off juggs helmet.

Well, he was radiating celestial energy. When it started up, he whomped Juggernaut easily.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

i'm not debating that. i just never saw anything in that issue that regualr -- very po'd hulk -- coudn't have done. i hear lots about war hulk, but he didn't do to much is all's i'm saying. we can speculate about him, (that might actually be cool) i just don't know why everyone ASSUMES he was so far above savage hulk.

scotsmn Snikt!

Originally posted by jasofisc
here's the scan I can't remember who I got it from

He's not being chocked in that scan. He has the cable in his teeth.

scotsmn Snikt!

Leo is right about War Hulk not doing anything that Savage Hulk wouldn't be able to. Savage Hulk + time = strength of base War Hulk. Brute strength stopped the Juggernaut and that's something almost any incarnation of the Hulk has in unlimited quantities.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

War Hulk only lasted like 2 issues and he fought Juggernaut the same way he always fights him, of course you're not going to see raybeams shooting out of his butt or anything. All we can do is compare.

Before he had the armor he had trouble with Juggernaut. While using it, he didn't have trouble.

scotsmn Snikt!

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
War Hulk only lasted like 2 issues and he fought Juggernaut the same way he always fights him, of course you're not going to see raybeams shooting out of his butt or anything. All we can do is compare.
Before he had the armor he had trouble with Juggernaut. While using it, he didn't have trouble.

What do you mean by trouble? As savage Hulk he has swung him around like a ragdoll and thrown him into a mountain. Hulk then shrugged and when Juggernaut never returned.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

It's not like Hulk threw Juggernaut 100 miles onto the top of a volcano. He flung like 50 yards into a rock when his helmet popped off and left when he thought he won. At the same time Juggernaut was getting back up and getting ready to get back into the fight when the X-men mindzapped him.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

juggs was going to get up from war hulk too. it's not like war physically defeated juggs. he had a sword -- that was the difference. we also saw nothing to show improved durability.

if i had to guess, i'd say war might be more durable, but hulk has done some pretty amazing things in the past. i doubt he's stronger, though his base strength appeared to be greater. what exactly did the 'enhancements' do? gave him a glow that seemed to augment his strength or simply counteracted juggs power? maybe hulk DIDN'T get stronger, maybe the celestial glow just nullified juggs field? who knows. also, in the end, hulk was able to tear apart his armor.

i think we'd need to see more of war to say he really was more powerful than savage.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

I'm not saying the armor made him physically stronger, I'm saying it gave him another layer that quite possibly could of been much better than just getting stronger muscles.

He was after all only in like 2 issues so we don't know but I'm guessing the Celestial energy that radiated out of him complimented his strength more than just more strength would. Almost like if Human Torch punched someone while flamed on. He would get that fire damage in there.

HigH ScholaR Senior Member

Originally posted by jasofisc
I agree god blast will take out most except for the higher ups, like Galactus Onslaught and thanos but I don't really know if thanos would survie it. (Juggernaut maybe, but he's been powered down)

Thanos has, Thanos shoot beams of ebergy through his eyes then thor absorbed it with his hammer and doubed it a hundred fold then added his godblast to it. It sent Thanos flying but he soon got up and looked uneffected.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm not saying the armor made him physically stronger, I'm saying it gave him another layer that quite possibly could of been much better than just getting stronger muscles.
He was after all only in like 2 issues so we don't know but I'm guessing the Celestial energy that radiated out of him complimented his strength more than just more strength would. Almost like if Human Torch punched someone while flamed on. He would get that fire damage in there.

you could be right. wish he'd have lasted longer so we could have found out just what he was really capable of.

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this thread needs a bump

LORD B Senior Member

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