Originally posted by Eternity
Thor haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas lost to hulk so many times.mjolnir or not
You call being thrown into a mountain a standstill ridiculous
Say whatever you like X mans armour increased huks durability and strength. Hulk can reach these levels when enraged.
Hulk beats juggernaut anytime not even an issue
Hulk also beats gladiator
If enraged to onslaught level hulk caaaaaaaaaan beat thanos like it or not
Can enraged Hulk survive a teleport into a star? no? game over.
Survive having his energy drained and turned into banner? no? game over.
Originally posted by Eternity
In this scenario hulk wont last that long but he is not going to come up last he will be ahead of jugs thor and gladiator at least
you know, I completely forgot Gladiator is in this, that's how much of a non issue he is. Like I said before, Gladiator's powers are dependent
on his confidence. In a melee with Galactus and Thanos etc- his confidence will be at ZERO. he'll be worthless. Gladiator dead last, hulk right above him.
A godforce blast from thor is too much for hulk to deal with. It shatters TRUE celestial armor and sends galactus running for his life. It'll pulverize the hulk.
Juggernaut CAN survive a godforce blast, so he's one notch up from the hulk.
Why didnt thanos do that to Xman and the hulk? PIS. If he did that, there would be one dead Xman, and one dead hulk, and no more Xman or Hulk comics. same reason zoom hasn't speed blitzed the entire JLA, Darkseid hasn't omegabeamed everyone, etc etc
<<In this scenario hulk wont last that long but he is not going to come up last he will be ahead of jugs thor and gladiator at least>>
no, thor can absorb way more damage because of his hammer. and thor has ko'd hulk with lightning before as well. thor could also remove him from battle. he could also use a godblast that destroyed the f'n DESTROYER to kill hulk. come on, in terms of strength hulk beats thor -- in terms of overall power, it's not close.
and kid, i have hulk 172 -- juggs was NOT beaten. he simply chose not to continue the fight. the fight would likely NEVER have ended.
CAN hulk reach thanos strength? i'll say yes, given enough time. but in this scenario it doesn't matter. and it would take more than just strength to beat thanos. thanos with a blast reduced him to a near skeleton in that annual where he fought thanos with nate's armor.
Originally posted by Eternity
You did not amswer my question and by the way juggernaut could simply be punched miles awy and he would be out of the fight. Thor has lost to hulk so hulk will do what he did to beat him before.
I did answer your question. If thanos used an insta-kill like a solar teleport, it would make for bad comics. Why didn't he simply wipe all heroes from existence when he had the infinity gauntlet,
rather than toying and fighting with them for several issues? same reason.
But this isnt comics, this is the forums, and these characters are at their full potential. so things will play out differently.if a character CAN use a tactic, they will.
Punching Juggernaut miles away will not kill him. This should be obvious. Onslaught threw him across a continent
and it didn't KO him. he was pissing himself in fear, but it didnt KO him.
Juggernaut has a healing factor equal to the hulk, equivalent (limitless) strength, but DOES NOT TIRE.
War hulk aside (which isnt in this fight) Hulk will eventually tire out,
need to eat, etc or so on. Juggernaut will keep going, since he is inexhaustible.
Originally posted by Eternity
You call being thrown into a mountain a standstill ridiculous
I agreed with armandovalles' list. Onslaught would be the tuff one to beat. I say that because for nearly a year onslaught toyed with every superhero on earth (basicly) and his goal was never to kill any of the hero's but have them assest in him geting greater power so that he could control everything via a psionic method. The only time the heros were able to do anything outside of Onslaught's will was when they sacrificed themselves to give him a new shell that could be destroyed. No person on this list can even compair with onslaught's cunning (even doctor doom played into his hands, when he was trying to break onslaughts shell) and the only person that has greater power is Galactus. Galactus will be able to break his shell and unlike any other single person that's below his level be able to contain Onslaught and then kill himself their by killing Onslaught. no one else ont he list has a chance because even if they break his shell (which they wont unless he lets them) they can't do much about his psionic form
Hulk, potentially could be last. Galactus and Surfer can revert him back to Banner by manipulating the gamma energy in him. He's done it before. For the benefit of the doubt, I put him ahead of Juggs, otherwise he'd be dead last.
And there's no way Thanos isn't 2nd. He's knocked out In-Betweener before- with a punch. And IB is not to far off from G at moderate power.
Originally posted by jasofisc
I agreed with armandovalles' list. Onslaught would be the tuff one to beat. I say that because for nearly a year onslaught toyed with every superhero on earth (basicly) and his goal was never to kill any of the hero's but have them assest in him geting greater power so that he could control everything via a psionic method. The only time the heros were able to do anything outside of Onslaught's will was when they sacrificed themselves to give him a new shell that could be destroyed. No person on this list can even compair with onslaught's cunning (even doctor doom played into his hands, when he was trying to break onslaughts shell) and the only person that has greater power is Galactus. Galactus will be able to break his shell and unlike any other single person that's below his level be able to contain Onslaught and then kill himself their by killing Onslaught. no one else ont he list has a chance because even if they break his shell (which they wont unless he lets them) they can't do much about his psionic form
Onslaught vs. Thanos is a tough match. Thanos does have incredible psionic resistance as well as the ability to attack that way, as well as insane matter an energy manipulation which WILL hurt onslaught.
If onslaught's energy manipulation is on par with or less than the surfer (reasonable to assume, since he gets it from magneto) I think Thanos can take him eventually.
Originally posted by Space M ummy
Onslaught vs. Thanos is a tough match. Thanos does have incredible psionic resistance as well as the ability to attack that way, as well as insane matter an energy manipulation which WILL hurt onslaught.If onslaught's energy manipulation is on par with or less than the surfer (reasonable to assume, since he gets it from magneto) I think Thanos can take him eventually.
there's a great thanos v onslaught thread on the first or second page. there is also a good onslaught v tyrant thread. you should chime in . . . 😉
but the problem with Onslaught is that what can thanos or anybody else on this list do if they break his shell. They don't have enough power to contain Onslaught psionic form. And why would "insane matter an energy manipulation" hurt onslaught theirs no proff to suggest that. Onlaught has the realty manipulation powers which he could use to turn thanos and ever other person on the list except Galactus into a tricycle.
furthermore onslaught has a lot more power then SS considering it took nearly every hero on earth to contain him. Onslaught has a lot more then megneto's powers he also has Prof. X, x-man, and Mr. fantasic's kid.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<In this scenario hulk wont last that long but he is not going to come up last he will be ahead of jugs thor and gladiator at least>>no, thor can absorb way more damage because of his hammer. and thor has ko'd hulk with lightning before as well. thor could also remove him from battle. he could also use a godblast that destroyed the f'n DESTROYER to kill hulk. come on, in terms of strength hulk beats thor -- in terms of overall power, it's not close.
and kid, i have hulk 172 -- juggs was NOT beaten. he simply chose not to continue the fight. the fight would likely NEVER have ended.
CAN hulk reach thanos strength? i'll say yes, given enough time. but in this scenario it doesn't matter. and it would take more than just strength to beat thanos. thanos with a blast reduced him to a near skeleton in that annual where he fought thanos with nate's armor.
He isn't that fast.
Here Hulk vs Thor -------- Hulk can punch and hurt Thor badly
Hulk attacks SS ---------- Nothing happens.
He even battle Mindless Hulk and took all his best shots.
The problem is Durability thor might have higher “Firepower” lack durability or Speed