part human part animal...given that we are just animals anyway...but i know what you're getting at
but no-one bats an eyelid when they inject themselves with insulin grown in pigs (not to common now that we use bacteria with genetic engineering to produce insulin but it used to be the primary source of insulin for diabetics)
we interbreed different species of plants to get certain phenotypic characteristics
we genetically modify sheep to produce milk to treat heart disease by getting them to produce alpha-1 antitrypsin
we have genetically engineered chickens with 4 legs and no wings
we are also working on making fruit to produce the required levels of vitamins so that supplements will be irrelevant and pointless
Originally posted by debbiejo
I know..........EwwwwwwwwwwyI buy normal unaltered things....
if by unaltered you mean organic then dont trust what you read...organic beef can be labelled as such after feeding the cows organically for 2 weeks before slaughter...before that you can feed them on whatever genetically modified synthetic shit or their own parents (feeding cows animal based feed is tragically common)
Originally posted by debbiejo
OK....you are not seeing what I'm saying....right? 😑
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Oh, you're saying..
Originally posted by debbiejo
NO
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Oh
Pretty much where you should have removed yourself from the responsibility of posting any more of your..."insights".
Re: Science DNA?....How far should it go?
Originally posted by debbiejo
Science has been able to accomplish so much, even to the extent that we are not aware of....Do you think it is acceptable to blend DNA from one species to another...Example blend a rat and a human for the growth of ears, or pigs with human DNA for organs.....I'm not sure if a thread has been done like this before, but was curious how far do you think science should go in these exhaustive experiments....and what are to become of what they have created in the name of science....Your thoughts.???
So, are you talking about the Island of Dr. Moreau?
The resulting beings in your proposed situation are still very much alive, I assume. As such, they should be treated with respect and dignity...in a perfect society. However, such a society does not exist. So, their sacrifices would mean the betterment of the continuing species. Namely, humans.
So, in a perfect world, they would be treated with dignity and respect...as beings who live and breathe. In this world, as we have seen with any group that is different, they will be treated with hate and disdain.
Re: Re: Science DNA?....How far should it go?
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
So, are you talking about the Island of Dr. Moreau?The resulting beings in your proposed situation are still very much alive, I assume. As such, they should be treated with respect and dignity...in a perfect society. However, such a society does not exist. So, their sacrifices would mean the betterment of the continuing species. Namely, humans.
So, in a perfect world, they would be treated with dignity and respect...as beings who live and breathe. In this world, as we have seen with any group that is different, they will be treated with hate and disdain.
Yeah, I suppose your right...It's just not part manys human nature for us to have a perfect world.......It just seems there will be a time when there will be a blend of another species that will live outside the lab...but there are already those species that are in the labs now.....And when does dignity kick in?
Kinda like what science has been talking about with the cloning people to use later....though I think with that, they are just cloning organs.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's cloning organ's deb, you don't need to clone entire people to "harvest". Genetic engineering and cloning have huge potential for good. I don't think people realise that a lot of varieties of crops created nowadays are done so using irradiation.
I won't eat those irradiated or genetic things either....❌
Did you know that using irradiation kills the enzymes that you need?...Would only cause more work to digest your food....
And cloning organs doesn't bother me...it's the other thing... 😄
Originally posted by debbiejo
I've seen rats with human ears.... 😑
Funniest post ever 😂
Do you think the ear actually grew out of the mouse caused by an alteration in the animals genes Debbie Jo 😖hifty:
The experiment in which a human ear was attached to a mouse's back was
perfomed in the laboratory of Dr. Charles Vacanti at the University of
Massachusetts. He was assisted by Dr Linda Griffith-Cima from MIT. The
study was done at the suggestion of a plastic surgeon who was interested
in developing techniques for attaching ears in children who had external
ear deformities or had lost ears in accidents. It was designed to serve
as a model for tissue engineering.
The mouse used for the study had a defective immune system so it was
unable to reject the human tissue. The scientists created a ear-like
scaffold of porous, biodegradable polyester fabric and then distributed
human cartilage cells throughout this form. The entire construct was then
implanted onto the back of the nude mouse. The mouse nourished the ear as
the cartilage cells grew to replace the fiber. The mouse remained healthy
and alive throughout. While the cartilage grew in the shape of an ear, it
was not a functional ear since it lacked any connection to the nervous
system or internal structure of the ear.
😆
Ask me about the ethics of recombinant engineering -
Should people with Cystic Fibrosis be cured? imo big yes!
Should I clone myself 😖hifty:
Wouldn't work anyway so don't be scared - due to the fact all my cells pretty much are replaced every eight years by copies, it works a little like copying a VHS tape - to another, to another etc and each copy is less precise than the next. Hence wrinkles lines and aging - Clone myself a man in his 😖hifty: a man ok and I end up with clones that develop Cancers etc (probably) 30 years early. We know this from Dolly the sheep.
The all round ethics of genetic engineering are a minefield and the law will always lag behind cutting edge science.
As a rule - Stem cell research = Very Good
Therapeutic research = excellent
Designer babies = bad
cloning Whirly (impossible sadly) very bad
Keep the faith 🙂
Stay Whirly 🤘
Originally posted by Whirlysplatt
Funniest post ever 😂Do you think the ear actually grew out of the mouse caused by an alteration in the animals genes Debbie Jo 😖hifty:
The experiment in which a human ear was attached to a mouse's back
😂 😂 😂
I only saw the picture....LOL.....It was weird....Guess I should of read the article too, but am drawn to bizarre pictures.....LOL.....
But I've oh...well...I did read some things awhile ago...My dad is also an avid science research reader and shares info with me also....but who knows if it's true....he is a liberal....hahahahahaha...
Couldn't help it sorry.. 😄
Originally posted by debbiejo
😂 😂 😂I only saw the picture....LOL.....It was weird....Guess I should of read the article too, but am drawn to bizarre pictures.....LOL.....
But I've oh...well...I did read some things awhile ago...My dad is also an avid science research reader and shares info with me also....but who knows if it's true....he is a liberal....hahahahahaha...
Couldn't help it sorry.. 😄
ok 🙂
Originally posted by jaden101
you better get working on those blind chickens...because the gene that causes blindness in chickens is the same sequence that causes cystic fibrosis in humans...one gene...two defects....strange 😕
I know someone with cystic fibrosis.
I don't know any blind chickens though.
IMO:
Science should go as far as it can. Perhaps it can provide substantial answers that are not provided by the bible, or your average bible-thumping, red-state American. I hope God is in the details...because that is the only place he has left to hide.
Or, should we all thump bibles....until it's too late to do anyting about our own existance? God seems to have little interest, so...let's fight for ourselves.
F--K Jesus....and all his corrupt, bastardized...followers....
Osteriches with their heads in the sand are of little use to the rest of the world. Stand up...or sit down and shut the hell up.