Originally posted by MYSTICAL BEING
do you even know what the astral planes are?
Thats easy ! Its the place were human basic thought forms exist(human desires and such), its also called the psychic plane. Its above the ethereal plane, and under the mental plane accordingly to the philosophies that believe in it.
Originally posted by Gouki
I'm going to hell.
I believe that hell is a state of mind, one of 10 worlds that we can be in at any time.
http://www.buddhistinformation.com/10_worlds.htm
I also believe that we return to life after we die. We are reincarnated.
So, are you in hell right now? Did you know that you can leave hell at any time, the doors are not locked? All you have to do is change the way you see life.
Im a Christian so I believe the first time anyone committed a sin, they were falling short of God's expectation of us. I believe that every person deserves to go to hell because every person sins. But as a Christian thats where I believe Jesus came in. I believe that the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus gave us the chance to accept his sacrifice and be saved from sin.
I believe when we die. God looks at us and if we haven't accepted Jesus as our personal Lord and Saviour, then we are going to go to Hell. However if we are a Christian God lets us go to be with Jesus in heaven.....
Originally posted by willRules
Im a Christian so I believe the first time anyone committed a sin, they were falling short of God's expectation of us. I believe that every person deserves to go to hell because every person sins. But as a Christian thats where I believe Jesus came in. I believe that the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus gave us the chance to accept his sacrifice and be saved from sin.I believe when we die. God looks at us and if we haven't accepted Jesus as our personal Lord and Saviour, then we are going to go to Hell. However if we are a Christian God lets us go to be with Jesus in heaven.....
Does your belief mean, that I can sin all I want and then go to Jesus and avoid any consequences of my actions?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Does your belief mean, that I can sin all I want and then go to Jesus and avoid any consequences of my actions?
I believe there can be consequences to being sinful. However if you are truly sorry for the things you have done and you really want to accept Jesus as your personal Lord an Saviour then you are saved from eternal death or Hell.......
Originally posted by willRules
I believe there can be consequences to being sinful. However if you are truly sorry for the things you have done and you really want to accept Jesus as your personal Lord an Saviour then you are saved from eternal death or Hell.......
I believe consequences cannot be avoided. Even if you could get forgiveness, I believe the consequences, here in this world, would still come. I have seen, among some Christians, the attitude that they can do what they want because they will always be forgiven. These kind of people can cause themselves and others a great deal of pain. What do you think?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I believe consequences cannot be avoided. Even if you could get forgiveness, I believe the consequences, here in this world, would still come. I have seen, among some Christians, the attitude that they can do what they want because they will always be forgiven. These kind of people can cause themselves and others a great deal of pain. What do you think?
Thats a good point.
I believe if someone believes they can commit sin because they know they can get forgiveness then they are trying to use God. God may be loving but he is also fair. He will not allow himself to be used.
Plus if someone still purposely committed sin because they know they can be forgiven, then I would question if they ever became a Christian in the first place. I believe (because it happened to me) that when you become a Christian a change will occur in you. You don't want to commit sin anymore amongst many things..............
Originally posted by willRules
Thats a good point.I believe if someone believes they can commit sin because they know they can get forgiveness then they are trying to use God. God may be loving but he is also fair. He will not allow himself to be used.
Plus if someone still purposely committed sin because they know they can be forgiven, then I would question if they ever became a Christian in the first place. I believe (because it happened to me) that when you become a Christian a change will occur in you. You don't want to commit sin anymore amongst many things..............
That is interesting; when I became a Buddhist, I also felt a change.
I wish more people understood that forgiveness, in the bible, does not stop consequences, it only inters you into the covenant so that when you die you go to heaven to be with god. Of course, I don't believe this, but this is my understanding of the Christian doctrine.
Thats correct. The Bible is saying going to hell is the ultimate consequence for sin. According to the Bible, man was never meant to die. We sinned so according to the Bible we all die physically. According to the Bible Jesus gave us a chance not to suffer spiritual death as well by going to hell......well thats what i believe anyway..............
There is no Hell/Gehenna....It's all historical..Sheol just means pit..Gehenna was outside of Jerusalem and was a forever burning garbage dump...