What if Tim Burton directed Batman Begins?

Started by FistOfThe North3 pages

Originally posted by WindDancer
Burton has his own particular style of Batman. And given the fact that fans were sick and tired of Batman movies being too colorful

I love Burton's particular style.

I never got sick and tired of Burton's "colorful", as you say, Batman movies.

I thought Batman '89 and Returns were good, I'd still watch 'em. And I personally know tons of fans that would agree. And thats not counting fans I don't know, which there are even more than, well, I know.

Get it right, before you get it wrong.

Batman Begins was a horrible version of batman. i dont care what anyone else says tim burton nailed batman head on and thats what made Batman a success. he was crazy, had a super-natural-ness about him (unlike nolans half-assed version) and kicked royal ass. and ppl need to stop saying that "batman is fantastical". yes he is, most certainly. hes even more fanstatical then superman! thats cuz nobody identifies with Batman. he's a billionaire. he owns collapsible bat-themed hanggliders. he can only solve crimes if the criminals leave rhyming clues while wearing question mark-covered unitards. he beats up mutant penguins and lives in a cave with a ten-year-old boy. If anybody in the real world knows anyone remotely like Batman, I can assure you we avoid them like lepers, let alone look to them for spiritual guidance.

no, the reason we come back to Batman as an icon again and again is because the title character, like most entertaining people, is so clearly a barking lunatic. Unlike Superman or Wonder Woman, who at least have the pretense of powers to justify their lunacy, Batman is just some guy who dresses up like a bat every Friday and beats up criminals while Robin holds them down.Even Batman's haunting ground, Gotham City, is a psychotic nightmare. criminals attempt to poison the revervoir more often than city officials bother to chlorinate it. Gotham City museums actually have things worth stealing in them, but have yet to install any kind of reliable anti-theft device despite weekly break-ins. The police are unable to close the simplest of cases without sprinting up to the roof and shining an emergency "Get The Guy Who Dresses Like a Bat Over Here" floodlight into the sky. There are evidently so many aviaries and circuses in Gotham City that there are over a dozen abandoned ones handy for rental as lairs by villains. I wholeheartedly support Gotham City's enthusiastic funding of bird and circus-based attractions, but it's still clearly a town packed to bursting with the mentally disturbed. Only in a place that crazy could a Bat-Man ever even exist, let alone thrive.

That's the simple beauty of Batman's enduring legacy. We don't identify with him. We don't laugh at him. Mostly we just marvel at him, I think. In most movies, the villains get to have all the fun, and the heroes tend to be fairly bland. Batman's one of the few characters I can think of who's as monumentally ****ed up as the criminals he's chasing. Tim Burton and Michael Keaton understood that. Nolan didnt even begin to comprehend that. and thats why batman begins is a horrible version of batman. it takes batman way too seriously and makes him out to be like hes actually normal, like.....Spiderman or James Bond or something.
batman isnt any of them, hes FAR more different and very fantastical and crazy in his way of thinking.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I love Burton's particular style.

I never got sick and tired of Burton's "colorful", as you say, Batman movies.

I thought Batman '89 and Returns were good, I'd still watch 'em. And I personally know tons of fans that would agree. And thats not counting fans I don't know, which there are even more than, well, I know.

Get it right, before you get it wrong.

Agreed. stupid ppl need to shut up before they make fools of themselves.......too late.

Stop trying to fulfill your career as a tragedy author here, BR, your opinions are tragic enough without us hearing them in LOTR- sized chunks!

Originally posted by Knightfall93
Stop trying to fulfill your career as a tragedy author here, BR, your opinions are tragic enough without us hearing them in LOTR- sized chunks!

your blinded, sadly. your not faceing the truth, and because of that, you will suffer the loss. its your loss, not mine.

anyways, your opinions suck, so i really could care less.

and thank you, i like LOTR's. hee hee.

Originally posted by Silverstein
Chris Nolan's Batman Begins was reallistic.
-bat armor, instead of a muscle suit
-bruce's training
-the only unreallistic thing is the blue flower, but the idea of weaopinizing gases are pretty reallistic

Actually, the blue flower was very realistic. Some plants can be used to make halucinogens (I forget how it's spelled).

i think a better question would be, if nolan and goyer teamed up for the 89 batman would it have been better?

Most drugs are made from plants. The blue flower thing was very realistic.

the thing that really made me dislike BB was that we are built up to believe in this "real reality" and then towards the middle everything gets all spiderman-y and weak. and even the bruce training parts reminded me too much of those training scenes from the last samurai, just kind of skimmed over and we're given no real clues to what exactly bruce trained under. i mean, when did he learn to throw baterangs? they never showed that. the actual training sequences felt more like a commercial for the movie rather then the movie itself, which was sad. i felt like ive already seen everything, wich sucked cuz there was no surprises really until the end, and it really didnt pay off. at the end of B89, i felt satisfied and that it was done......for now. with BB, it felt like the movie had a second part, so it wasnt really satifying in that sense. i just walked away from it feeling a bit cheated.

Originally posted by wuTa
i think a better question would be, if nolan and goyer teamed up for the 89 batman would it have been better?

doubt it. burton was the man for the job back then. heck, even if burton made a batman film today, im all for it. at least batman would be bATMAN not just some guy in a suit. burton had atmosphere, and thats essential to batman, especially in a batman MOVIE. a movie is not a comic book. ppl need to realize that.

Well, it's a COMIC BOOK movie! So maybe Burton should have read some COMIC BOOKS first!

He sure should have,at least some batman comics.LOL. and yea thats the better question is if goyer and nolan teamed up would it have been better and I have no doubts it would have been a hundred times better than the crap Burton brought to the screen..

a million times better!

you are an ignorant fool parker. noone but knightfall agrees with you or listens to your rediculous posts. i thought you knew that by now. figures. as far as "burton never read comics", thats not true. he may not be a total ass "fanboy" like you guys are (im glad hes not), but he certainly knows how to make a good batman movie, thats for sure. he actually read DKR AND "the killing joke" and said to WB "THIS is the kind of batman i want to make!! this is it!!", and the rest is history. how do i know this? the woman on the B89 SE DVD said that burton said this so its true.

you nolanites, how pathetic. youll say anything to bash burton. truly iganorant and wrong.

Actually that wwasnt the result... the result was a homicidal maniac more resembling The JOKER than BATMAN

I think Burton had his chance to make Batman and he succeeded in it...
I don't think I wanted Burton for another Batman tho...I mean he had his time with a magnificent Batman represented by Michael Keaton...
It's good that for a change someone else did it and succeeded in it unlike Schumacher...that's what I'm happy about....but no...I want Nolan to continue. I'm happy what Burton did with Batman but I think he would have refused to do it anyway if they offered him to do another Batman movie.

He'd want to make it another animation about dead people! That's all h ever makes...

Originally posted by Knightfall93
He'd want to make it another animation about dead people! That's all h ever makes...

tsss...how can you critisize someone's work, if you don't know his work at all...

Originally posted by Batman Returns
burton had atmosphere, and thats essential to batman, especially in a batman MOVIE.

Batman Begins had atmosphere.

http://www.oscar.com/nominees/achievementincinematographynominee1.html?ad=style

It's nominated for an award in cinematography. I'll take a smart fans opinion over yours any day of the week.

LOL, nice call, Harvey! Oh, I also lve "The Nightmare before Christmas" but it's hardly very Batman- ish...