Dr. Strange VS. Neron

Started by Beyonder4 pages
Originally posted by Juntai
Right but I'm assuming its meant to be Neron at his best...he got dropped in power after Day of Judgement because he lost his seat as Lord of one of the circles...
And in comics, Strange is usually prepped for combat as well, that is not the case here, it's like he was going on a beer run and Neron came to grab up some souls, and they bumped heads on 47th and Carson. It's even footing.
Fate and a lot of the other guys I've named have dealt with all powerful demons and stuff too... but none of them had shit on Neron, that's what you're not understanding.

Um duh. He'd get his a$$ kicked if he wasn't prep against high level demon lords and extra-dimension entities either. Of course Neron's going to win in this way.

If he came into this fight the way he does against Dormammu, Shuma Gorath, Mephisto, and Satannish, Strange would beat Neron.

Originally posted by Beyonder
Could, but so could Graviton. Anyways, Strange kicks Neron's ass.

Depends on the situation. I'm not knocking down strange, but if its just a random encounter. He's getting his ass whooped.

Thread starter gave 10 hours prep I think.

It'll end up being Neron w/demon armies vs Strange w/ demon armies.

Eh, I guess there is prep for both of them.
I'd still give it to Neron when at optimum strength, no amount of magic or physical damage even effected him let alone contain him.

I don't know much about neron, but isn't he pretty much skyfather level based, so subject to this im assuming strange does have a good chance of winning this fight, this is only due to Long pigs respect thread, if he hadn't enlightened me on what Strange is capable of doing, I would of probably said Neron hands down.

With less than a half hour of prep, Strange managed to stalemate an I.G holder.

If he were to have all his artifacts pointed and charged to use against Neron, I don't see any possible way Neron.....or really anyone could win.

Originally posted by Maestro
I don't know much about neron, but isn't he pretty much skyfather level based, so subject to this im assuming strange does have a good chance of winning this fight, this is only due to Long pigs respect thread, if he hadn't enlightened me on what Strange is capable of doing, I would of probably would of said Neron hands down.
Neron at optimum power on took on DC Earth and nothing... nothing... they did had any real effect. .

Originally posted by long pig
With less than a half hour of prep, Strange managed to stalemate an I.G holder.

If he were to have all his artifacts pointed and charged to use against Neron, I don't see any possible way Neron.....or really anyone could win.

Yeah but they BOTH have Prep as opposed that incident..

And, Fate who is Stranges equivelent in DC, constantly dealing with ultra powerful demons and stuff failed to do this.... when Neron came in Underworld Unleashed, none of the magic users or anyone could do anything at all to stop him.

Fate isn't Strange equivelent. Old school Fate was, new guy is lacking big time.

Strange would manhandle Fate and Zatanna at the same time, no biggie.

That doesn't really give Neron much cred.

Originally posted by long pig
Fate isn't Strange equivelent. Old school Fate was, new guy is lacking big time.

Strange would manhandle Fate and Zatanna at the same time, no biggie.

That doesn't really give Neron much cred.

RIght, but what I'm saying is he TOOK ON DC EARTH AND NONE OF THEM COULD DO -ANYTHING AT ALL- TO HARM HIM, THEY EVEN STABBED WITH -SATANS- OWN SPEAR AND IT DID NOTHING. And you think Strange could just wave a hand and deal with him?

Neron was NOT defeated by normal means.
He defeated himself.

Originally posted by Juntai
Yeah but they BOTH have Prep as opposed that incident..

And, Fate who is Stranges equivelent in DC, constantly dealing with ultra powerful demons and stuff failed to do this.... when Neron came in Underworld Unleashed, none of the magic users or anyone could do anything at all to stop him.

Fate isn't really equivalent to Strange, he is more of a poor mans strange. His feats are no way parallel to any of stranges feats. I've never seen fate being able to regularly beat down on beings at skyfather level and beyond, you keep saying Neron was at an incredible energy levels when taking on DC Earth yet your not taking into fact that strange has been able to fight off beings such as Dormammu,Inbetweener, Galactus and even Living tribunal without any prep whose powers equal nerons power at least, with quite a few surpassing his power by a substantial amount.

Originally posted by Maestro
Fate isn't really equivalent to Strange, he is more of a poor mans strange. His feats are no way parallel to any of stranges feats. I've never seen fate being able to regularly beat down on beings at skyfather level and beyond, you keep saying Neron was at an incredible energy levels when taking on DC Earth yet your not taking into fact that strange has been able to fight off beings such as Dormammu,Inbetweener, Galactus and even Living tribunal without any prep whose powers equal nerons power at least, with quite a few surpassing his power by a substantial amount.
You've never read underworld unleashed. When he was at optimum levels, he was much higher on the hierarchy than you think. Like I said, Satans own spear did next to nothing to him. None of the heros even really harmed him. He slapped around all of DC Earth.

Essentially, you're saying Strange could take on the entire DC Earth and come out unaffected?

Originally posted by Maestro
Fate isn't really equivalent to Strange, he is more of a poor mans strange. His feats are no way parallel to any of stranges feats. I've never seen fate being able to regularly beat down on beings at skyfather level and beyond, you keep saying Neron was at an incredible energy levels when taking on DC Earth yet your not taking into fact that strange has been able to fight off beings such as Dormammu,Inbetweener, Galactus and even Living tribunal without any prep whose powers equal nerons power at least, with quite a few surpassing his power by a substantial amount.
Fate deals with Demons and abstract things and stuff too, the main problem is that he hasnt had a series in some time to back up feats, but in his 4 or 5 parted he did a year or so ago, he was doing all kinds of crazy shit...... and that current Fate is a new guy... fate is always a new guy. Fate's die. It's their... fate...

Originally posted by Juntai
You've never read underworld unleashed. When he was at optimum levels, he was much higher on the hierarchy than you think. Like I said, Satans own spear did next to nothing to him. None of the heros even really harmed him. He slapped around all of DC Earth.

Essentially, you're saying Strange could take on the entire DC Earth and come out unaffected?


no i think he is saying Strange has defeated demons and monster who could take on Marvel earth or DC earth.

Like Shama , Dor

With prep or any backing Strange gets killed quickly

Give powers of cosmic at his sides he might be able to take neron depends on how much powers he can gather.

You average Strage gets killed tough

Originally posted by kgkg
no i think he is saying Strange has defeated demons and monster who could take on Marvel earth or DC earth.

Like Shama , Dor

What I'm saying, is that when written at his optimum levels NOTHING defeated this guy. The only reason the series even came to an end was because he tried to take the one Earth soul that was too pure [Captain Marvel], and it overloaded his soul keeping... thing... and then everything went back to normal. Nothing really did damage to him at all.

Essentially, you're saying Strange could take on the entire DC Earth and come out unaffected?

How much prep does he get? Give him a week, and I'll say yes.

Originally posted by Juntai
You've never read underworld unleashed. When he was at optimum levels, he was much higher on the hierarchy than you think. Like I said, Satans own spear did next to nothing to him. None of the heros even really harmed him. He slapped around all of DC Earth.

Essentially, you're saying Strange could take on the entire DC Earth and come out unaffected?

I'm not implying strange can do that, your just putting words into my mouth. I'm just basing the fact of previous showings of strange against beings who probably surpass Neron in power, for example, Galactus, LT and IB, and without prep he managed to stalemate them for quite long periods of time. So logically strange with prep should have a decent shot at Neron.

Originally posted by long pig
How much prep does he get? Give him a week, and I'll say yes.
In the scenerio of this thread, both are getting prep.
Do you think he could then?

My first thought was a spell that would destroy reality, but it takes a week. Mordo attempted to use it, but Strange stopped it.

With 10 hours and all his artfacts, Strange could blow up Earth. Hell, he's blown up planets with 5 minutes prep.