Dr. Strange VS. Neron

Started by Juntai4 pages

The only being on DC Earth that Neron did not care to fight/ beat the crap out of, was the Spectre. Instead, he made a deal with The Spectre Force and ripped Corrigan's out of the Spectre Force and put in a guy with no willpower that couldn't control the Wrath. So the Wrath could do it's thing with no hinderance from a powerful willed mortal anchor. The deal was that if he did this for the Spectre, that Spectre wouldn't come after him.

Do you have the comic, care to post some scans?

Originally posted by long pig
My first thought was a spell that would destroy reality, but it takes a week. Mordo attempted to use it, but Strange stopped it.

With 10 hours and all his artfacts, Strange could blow up Earth. Hell, he's blown up planets with 5 minutes prep.

Ugh....

And Superman could do it by stomping hard.
But, that's not what's in question, it's can he DEFEAT them when the oppoenent is prepared for the fight as well.

Matter of fact, drop that idea alltogether, because it's just not feasible.

Originally posted by Maestro
Do you have the comic, care to post some scans?
I do not have a scanner, and I wouldn't get out my Spectre ones either way, as they are autographed by Ostrander, as is my Spectre Zero Hour.

Anyone who's read Underworld Unleashed and any or all of it's tie ins all across the DCU know what I'm talking about andknow that it's true.

It was a DC-wide EVENT when Neron came, no single shot bullshit.

Hmmm Juntai how come you didn't include to say Neron was defeated by Trickster a circus act?

http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/trickster.html

Don't ask questions if you can't handle the answers. You asked could Strange beat Earth, I said yes and provided reasons.

So, Neron only used 10 hours prep when he took on the entire Earth's heroes??

Trickster...........?

Originally posted by Maestro
Hmmm Juntai how come you didn't include to say Neron was defeated by Trickster a circus act?

http://www.hyperborea.org/flash/trickster.html

He wasn't "defeated" by James Jesse, he took Captain Marvel's soul, that's how he was defeated..
Which I mentioned.
James Jesse helped get this accomplished

Don't twist facts.

Originally posted by long pig
Don't ask questions if you can't handle the answers. You asked could Strange beat Earth, I said yes and provided reasons.

So, Neron only used 10 hours prep when he took on the entire Earth's heroes??

No telling, but when confronting them, he was just effortlessly knocking them out with punches kicks, spells, it didn't matter.. the attacks didn't see very prepared to me.

Originally posted by Juntai
He wasn't "defeated" by James Jesse, he took Captain Marvel's soul, that's how he was defeated..
Which I mentioned.
James Jesse helped get this accomplished

Don't twist facts.

Well according to them, and I quote "Neron took a strange interest in Jesse, and didn’t even offer him a deal. As a result, he was the only one around who knew Neron’s weakness without owing him anything—and almost single-handedly defeated him (Underworld Unleashed, 1995)"

Let me emphasise "almost single-handedly defeated him.

No, that's not what I'm asking.

How long did Neron prepare for when he attacked all Earth's heroes?

You asked if Strange could duplicate it in 10 hours, so did neron do it in 10 hours?

Originally posted by Maestro
Well according to them, and I quote "Neron took a strange interest in Jesse, and didn’t even offer him a deal. As a result, he was the only one around who knew Neron’s weakness without owing him anything—and almost single-handedly defeated him (Underworld Unleashed, 1995)"

Let me emphasise "almost single-handedly defeated him.

Read it dickweed. I'm not here to argue, I'm telling you facts. He wasn't defeated by normal means, he took Marvels soul and it was too pure, and it overloaded his soul keeping.. thing... and everything he did was undone and everyone got their souls back.

Originally posted by Maestro
Well according to them, and I quote "Neron took a strange interest in Jesse, and didn’t even offer him a deal. As a result, he was the only one around who knew Neron’s weakness without owing him anything—and almost single-handedly defeated him (Underworld Unleashed, 1995)"

Let me emphasise "almost single-handedly defeated him.

Wait....what's Neron's weakness? The eye will pretty much tell Strange what it is in the first second or two.

Originally posted by long pig
No, that's not what I'm asking.

How long did Neron prepare for when he attacked all Earth's heroes?

You asked if Strange could duplicate it in 10 hours, so did neron do it in 10 hours?

And I answered saying "No telling". There was no "AND HE PREPARED FOR EXACTLY 45 MINUTES" line. The shit just happened.

Originally posted by long pig
Wait....what's Neron's weakness? The eye will pretty much tell Strange what it is in the first second or two.
He took Marvel's soul which was too pure for his soul keeping device. Jesse came up with the idea for Marvel to offer his soul up to Neron, which he thought was a great idea...he couldnt refuse.
And it ****ed his soul device up.
His weakness was greed.

Originally posted by Juntai
And I answered saying "No telling". There was no "AND HE PREPARED FOR EXACTLY 45 MINUTES" line. The shit just happened.

So you asked if Strange could do something faster than Neron could do it?
Basically, using a missleading question that implied Neron did it in 10 hours when he could have been preparing for it for 1 million years.

Juntai why use derogatory words, all I am trying to do is have a discussion on a character and you start insulting me. Im just trying to point you to the fact that Neron was defeated by a circus act who was able to do this by using Nerons weakness which is anything opposite to hate, which strange could probably conjure up in some sort of procedure.

So, Strange would just give up his own pure soul and it'd defeat Neron.

Sounds pretty simple.

Fact is though that no amount of magic and no amount of damage even slowed him down for any length of time. And in this fight in his prep, he may be able to figure our Greed is his weakness in some way... but Strange has no way of serving up Captain Marvel's soul in a trade on a whim to **** up his soul device.

Originally posted by long pig
So, Strange would just give up his own pure soul and it'd defeat Neron.

Sounds pretty simple.

Marvels soul was considered the only soul pure enough. Even out of all the other characters you would consider.. such as Wonder Woman, Superman, Superboy, anyone... without a way of proving Stranges soul is equal to Marvel's the point is moot.