Darth Traya versus ROTS Anakin and ROTS Obi-Wan and ROTJ Luke

Traya schools them? Or the trio overcomes her?

Oh, how she schools them.

Traya wins.

I do have a mental picture in my mind of Kreia smashing them against the walls like the Jedi Masters in Kotor II. Then Anakin gets cocky, gets up and charges at her, and summilarly gets his head blown off.

Indeed. She can pwn them all pretty easily.

*Sigh*

I'll pull an Avis and switch Anakin and Luke for Windu and Tyranus.

Now it gets interesting. But I still don't see the two of them overcoming her Force mastery. Especially her dirty one-hit kill card. They may be able to deal with her lightning or telekinesis, but that force eat, chew up, spit out, leave dead attack will be the death of both of them.

In the cut version she kicked even more ass. She uses force crush on the Disciple (or Handmaiden), Visas, Mira (or Hanharr), Bao-Dur.

In the gameplay programming brackets, it says that she lifts the four up, taunts them all one by one, then smashes them to pieces with force crush, leaving their dead bodies on the ground.

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Are you bloody serious?

Yep, she then gets Sion to torture Atton. When you enter the Trayus Academy you originally had a choice. You could go to the Prison and free your companions, saving them, but having to face a very powerful Traya. Or you could go straight to Traya, but see your companions get butchered and Atton be tortured by Sion. But Traya is weaker.

Oh, and if you have more influence with the Disciple than Atton, then Atton gets corrupted and attacks the Disciple. If you had more influence with Handmaiden than Visas, the Handmaiden attacked her.

And we missed it?!

Damn. Stupid Lucasarts pushing up the game release date...

Yep. That's was comes of telling a production team that has three months left to produce the game to finish it in 30 days.

And you got Nihilus versus Sion.

Now I would PAY to see that, I really would (assuming it was real). Though to be fair, a fight between a guy who uses the force as life support and a guy who eats said force isn't exactly balanced.

It's real.

If it was Windu and Tyranous though, Traya will fall, as long as she doesn't use her instakill technique. Without it, Mace or Tyranous could defeat her alone, or at least give her a great fight.

Traya, she'd go all Vassili Zaitsev (sp?) and start sniping people with Force assistance.

Well the first fight is easily won by Kreia.

The second fight will be a lot harder, even when considering cut content she used the force on weak people. Far weaker then either Mace or Dooku. Who would both rock the worlds of those people quite well if you ask me.

Kreia would have to use some amazing force techniques right from the start in order to kill those guys. But I don't know if she could pull something like that off.. It would be damn hard for her or for the others thats for sure.

You can't determine whether or not those four were weak or not. I think Kreia would still win.

Well, they were not much more than padawans. In any case, I think Kreia's knowledge and power of Sith arts surpasses Mace and Dooku by far. Those two are more duellists than they are master Force users.

Yoda versus Kreia would be a better fight. One on one, I personally think Kreia can overcome Yoda. She has more Force power than Sidious did, and Sidious was able to contend with Yoda if for a short amount of time.

Yep, true.

kreia offed the remaining counsel if you elected to save them all in kotor 2. also in the end of the game when she fights with 3 lightsabers i think demonstrates how she would win the first fight discussed. the second with tyranus and mace...well i dont believe mace is meant to fight with anyone on his side so he would watch tyranus get chopped down and then poop himself and fall out a window 🍺