Superman Prime (Juggs crystal, Magnetos suit) vs. Marvel Universe

Who wins? This isnt that uneven.

magneto's suit? anyway, Galactus, Tyrant, Thanos, Phoenix, Zeus, Odin, and RKT are more than enought to beat Supes.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Who wins? This isnt that uneven.

Are you kidding?

TOAA
HOTU
LT
Phoenix
Eternity
Infinity
Death
Oblivion
Galactus
Tyrant
Any Celestial
Rune King Thor
Odin
Zeus
Zuras

are only SOME (there are quite a few others) of the Marvel characters that could easily beat any version of Superman by themselves.

TOAA blinks and marvel wins.

Without going to cosmic level, I'd say the surfer with the quantum bands
(didnt this happen in a surfer annual somewhere? I thought I saw scans yesterday) would give him a REALLY good fight.

Or current scarlet witch undoes his reality and annihilates him.

Originally posted by Cosmo Kramer
Who wins? This isnt that uneven.

The ruby of Cytorrak and Mgnetos suit dont enhance the already powerful Superman Prime in any way. So this is basically Superman Prime versus Marvel in which he case he loses horribly.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The ruby of Cytorrak and Mgnetos suit dont enhance the already powerful Superman Prime in any way. So this is basically Superman Prime versus Marvel in which he case he loses horribly.

Originally posted by Juntai
Due to lack of showings if nothing more. We won't REALLY know until the 853rd century rolls around and Clark comes to take his 27 monthly titles back from the Supermen.

Do you really believe on his own he could take on beings like Phoenix , LT and the Infinites? Certainly not by his showings on panel which didnt even portray him sufficiently as beyond even Galactus.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Do you really believe on his own he could take on beings like Phoenix , LT and the Infinites? Certainly not by his showings on panel which didnt even portray him sufficiently as beyond even Galactus.

OP stated that we exclude cosmics. Anyway Im of the mind that no one can really comment on primes abilities since we know next to nothing about him.

Originally posted by Hegemon875
OP stated that we exclude cosmics. Anyway Im of the mind that no one can really comment on primes abilities since we know next to nothing about him.

OP isnt the threadmaker so his wishes pertaining to the thread arent valid. (Who's OP?)

As this thread features Superman Prime despite his relatively few showings we have to comment on his powers and all we have to go by is what he displayed on panel which didnt place him beyond the likes of Galactus as it stands.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Do you really believe on his own he could take on beings like Phoenix , LT and the Infinites? Certainly not by his showings on panel which didnt even portray him sufficiently as beyond even Galactus.

Originally posted by Juntai
When did I say this...?

You never im just asking a question. Im saying he couldnt stand up to such beings, you replied by talking of his relatively few showings. Thats why i asked "Do you really believe on his own he could take on beings like Phoenix , LT and the Infinites?" few showings or not we have to go by whats shown on panel. Going by that i say no. Whats your answer?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You never im just asking a question. Im saying he couldnt stand up to such beings, you replied by talking of his relatively few showings. Thats why i asked "Do you really believe on his own he could take on beings like Phoenix , LT and the Infinites?" few showings or not we have to go by whats shown on panel. Going by that i say no. Whats your answer?

Originally posted by Juntai
By showings? No.
By mythology of Superman Prime as he's depicted through what you see and hear from the other characters in DC 1 million regarding him . . yeah, easily more powerful than anyone, save aspects of God.

So the answer both ways is still no. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So the answer both ways is still no. 😉

He certainly by what is apperent through those novels and the insane levels of those characters [Hourman 1 million could rewrite the multiverse on a whim because he was one with the Worlogog, for example. Or other Supermen having 5th Dimension powers.] And him being considered so far and above that these beings WORSHIP him is a clear sign that he'd take most anyone.

But yes, no matter he'd never be able to take an aspect of God working it's place in the omniverse..

Originally posted by Juntai
Assuming one man, without any weapon of mass destruction [like the anti-monitors anti-matter canon!] could take on a universe is pretty dumb in any aspect, like the guys trying to argue with me that professor x with cerebro and kick could defeat the entire dc universe. lol.

He certainly by what is apperent through those novels and the insane levels of those characters [Hourman 1 million could rewrite the multiverse on a whim because he was one with the Worlogog, for example. Or other Supermen having 5th Dimension powers.] And him being considered so far and above that these beings WORSHIP him is a clear sign that he'd take most anyone.

But yes, no matter he'd never be able to take an aspect of God working it's place in the omniverse..

So i guess thats a no then? 😉 😛

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So i guess thats a no then? 😉 😛

Wierd though because it feels as if you backed me into a corner regardless of this being a theoretical debate as I never alluded towards him being able to win in the first place. lol.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
OP isnt the threadmaker so his wishes pertaining to the thread arent valid. (Who's OP?)

As this thread features Superman Prime despite his relatively few showings we have to comment on his powers and all we have to go by is what he displayed on panel which didnt place him beyond the likes of Galactus as it stands.

OP= Original Poster, meh I was wrong anyways it wasnt the OP that stated not to use cosmics.

I was the poster who said "without using cosmics" because even superman prime doesn't really have a way to hurt things like Eternity, TOAA, pre-retcon beyonder, The phoenix force, Thanos (or anyone) with the gauntlet, a fleet of celestials, etc.

Keeping it restricted to beings below skyfather level just makes it more interesting.