Neo-Matrix: What will destroy America.

Started by Deano8 pages
Originally posted by Imagawa666
Why has everyone got hell bent on the idea of Bush orcastrting 9/11? Whats he gained? The war in Iraq which while i was for getting rid of Saddam has only brought controversy. And Bin Laden has admitted he planned the attacks.

lets get one thing straight, bush is a PUPPET. he hasnt a clue what to do and if you still think so then i think you need a kick up the ass.

who gains you ask?? the people who wanted to invade iraq, the people who want our freedoms stripped.Billions are convinced that the official version of 9/11 is true because of the 'proof' revealed by the United States government.After all, didn't they find a passport from one of the hijackers that had miraculously survived the fireball to be found in the street? Well, actually, no they didn't because that was a ·lie. But the FBI named the 19 hijackers didn't they?
No, they gave us 19 names, at least seven of which were found to be still alive. But they proved Bin Laden did it, surely? I heard them say that. Yes, exactly, we heard them say it and nothing more. They produced
no 'proof' of anything, only the repetition of their fairy tale that billions accepted as 'proof'. It was those using their 'hearts', their intuition, who knew something was very wrong with the official version even
before any further investigation had begun

problem reaction solution

the key to understanding what really happened on September 11th 2001 and why. It works like this: you know that if you openly propose to basic freedoms, start a war or centralise power, there will be a public reaction against it. So you don't openly and honestly propose such plans, you play the P-R-S scam. At stage one you create a problem. It could be a coup attacking another, a government or economic collapse, or a 'terrorist attack. Anything in fact that the public will think requires a 'solution'. At stage two, you report the 'problems' you have covertly created in the way you wish the people to perceive them. Crucially you find someone to blame for the problem, a 'patsy' like Lee Harvey Oswald when President Kennedy was assassinated, or Osama bin Laden. You spin the background to these events in a way that encouri1ges the people to demand thi1t "something must be done". These are the words you want to hear because they allow you to move on to stage three, the sting. At this point you openly offer the solutions to the problems you have yourself created. These solutions, of course, involve the centralisation of power, the sacking of officials or politicians that are getting in your way, and the removal of more basic freedoms as you advance further to your global fascist state. Just think of the freedoms that have been removed because of 9/11. A more subtle part of the technique is to propose far more extreme changes than you expect to get away with because this allows any opposition to think you have compromised and met them halfway

Unless people know the real background to what is happening they can easily be deceived by the official versions of 9/11 and other atrocities.
most people have believed it, and the wars of conquest that have followed have been 'justified' by the official version being true. This has included the deaths of at least five thousand Afghan civilians. These were men, women and children, like those who live in your street, who were slaughtered by US and British bombing to "get Bin Laden" - the man who was supposed to have organised 9/11 from a cave in Afghanistan. It's a lie, but the lie was believed and, therefore, led to the reaction that killed and maimed still more people in the name of 'peace' and 'justice'. Some idiot interviewers in the mainstream media have asked me what was the point of people knowing what is going on.

Well, if the public realised who the true perpetrators of 9/11 really were we would not have had our freedoms destroyed by the day since those planes hit, and thousands of civilians in afghanistan would still be with us. Nor would we have had the invasion of Iraq with more than seven thousand civilians killed and tens of thousands maimed, if the people had known the true background to why that happened.

Most people find it impossible to accept that a few people can manipulate the billions and operate through all institutions and countries. I understand that; but once you have the pyramids in place and you know how to condition the mind and reality of the population, it is relatively straightforward.

You know i dont care how many peopel in Iraq bush killed. I dont care how many inncoent Iraqis he killed. Your the puppet of a demeted side of the internet communitty. Its peole like you who try to trigger of rebellions and civil unrest. Whats the big deal about bush invading iraq? Hey Deano? Are you afraid of him? Compared to what Stalin did and what i would do Bush is relativly tame. You suggest Bush would murder 3000 americans? Your mad. The illuminati and all that crap is rubbish, made up by people who have nothing better to do. Your proof is all rubbish on the net that cant even be proven to be real.

what did i just say about bush? maybe you should READ the post. it doesnt matter if it is the illuminati or not. thew point is a group from behind the scenes are pulling the strings and will continue to pull the strings until the global fascist state is here. open your heart, tell me thats too hard to believe.
you dont care how many people he killed in iraq? how low can you be. many people over there was innocent. you are brainwashed dont u see?

here are some quotes from many politicans..some famous

The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviet (Illuminati) Union.

"The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans.
British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (who was very close to the Rothschilds), 1876

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
Strobe Talbot, Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.

We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."
Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950

We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."
Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs, the House Magazine of the Council on Foreign Relations (July/August 1995)

The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism, socialism, capitalism, etc.] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other."
Myron Fagan

No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."
David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity (Persian Gulf crisis) to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."
George Herbert Walker Bush

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)

The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."
New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

From the days of Sparticus Weishaupt, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in l922.

The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."
Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

there will be more bombings ahead but dont be fooled, much more bigger events..dont fall for the propaganda...people ARE waking up and some people can see it but are afraid to speak up...they want to inject you with fear.

hitler once said: 'All propaganda must be so popular on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those towards it is directed will understand it.''

and this is why they have bought this whole situation down to...ON ONE SIDE IN THE BLUE CORNER - AL QUAIDA! (which doesnt rlly exist on the level we think, but we'll just convince everyone it does)

AND IN THE OTHER CORNER ITS US THE GOOD GUYS!

thats what they have bought it down to, because they have to bring it down to that simplistic level to the most effective, and has more of us become aware of this, the more number of people will be sitting in the audience going 'oh yeah al quaida, they did it!

but now many people are coming to realise that Don king owns both fighters and its a staged event

You know if your reffering to the patriots in Metal gear solid who control the goverment well... There not real, there computer game characters

Originally posted by Deano
lets get one thing straight, bush is a PUPPET. he hasnt a clue what to do and if you still think so then i think you need a kick up the ass.

who gains you ask?? the people who wanted to invade iraq, the people who want our freedoms stripped.Billions are convinced that the official version of 9/11 is true because of the 'proof' revealed by the United States government.After all, didn't they find a passport from one of the hijackers that had miraculously survived the fireball to be found in the street? Well, actually, no they didn't because that was a ·lie. But the FBI named the 19 hijackers didn't they?
No, they gave us 19 names, at least seven of which were found to be still alive. But they proved Bin Laden did it, surely? I heard them say that. Yes, exactly, we heard them say it and nothing more. They produced
no 'proof' of anything, only the repetition of their fairy tale that billions accepted as 'proof'. It was those using their 'hearts', their intuition, who knew something was very wrong with the official version even
before any further investigation had begun.

Where is the concrete evidence of your theory though? This strikes me as amazingly blinkered, as most conspiracies are.

Here here Von Doom!

HUZZAH!!! Another thread successfully hijacked by Deano with a conspiracy theory...

Originally posted by Imagawa666
You know if your reffering to the patriots in Metal gear solid who control the goverment well... There not real, there computer game characters

ah your right, what im saying is in a game so it cannot be true

Originally posted by Echuu
HUZZAH!!! Another thread successfully hijacked by Deano with a conspiracy theory...

if you still see it as a conspiracy then you need your head tested

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Where is the concrete evidence of your theory though? This strikes me as amazingly blinkered, as most conspiracies are.

wheres the governments concrete evidence? after all you believed them.
lol blinkered?! and the official story is obviously not.
look, the info is out there if you care to research it and make up your OWN mind

Originally posted by Deano
if you still see it as a conspiracy then you need your head tested

Really? 🙄 I'll be sure to do that when the lizard men come.

Originally posted by Deano
wheres the governments concrete evidence? after all you believed them.
lol blinkered?! and the official story is obviously not.
look, the info is out there if you care to research it and make up your OWN mind

So in reply to "Where is your evidence?" you reply with "Where is yours?". How damn childish. You don't have any do you? Let's be honest. None of that "Research it", bs. You have none.

We're not the one's filling the forum with our beliefs and calling others idiots for not following. The burden of proof is on you.

Either show us evidence by yourself that factually proves what you are saying or shut the hell up. Because quite frankly I'm growing sick of you. The only people as stupid as those who blindly follow Bush and the media are those who blindly believe nothing, like you.

-AC

Originally posted by Deano
oh you hurt me real bad!!
time to grow up buddy

I do not try to wound anyone with my posts; I seek only to bring the truth to light (though I must say that you've both done an adequate job of doing so).

Originally posted by Deano
wheres the governments concrete evidence? after all you believed them.

I don't know where it is. The fact that I do not doesn't mean I will then believe the opposite view, also without concrete evidence, because that is nonsense.

I didn't 'believe' them, I barely listened to them. I don't waste my time on things I can't affect.

Originally posted by Deano

lol blinkered?! and the official story is obviously not.
look, the info is out there if you care to research it and make up your OWN mind

Show us the information. I can say there is information out there for anything, if I don't back it up, it's meaningless.

Conspiracy theorists always condemn sources of information, bar their own, which ironically are usually a Comic Book Guy type with too much time on his hands.

The answer to our problem is the fact Deano wishes to believe all those silly conspiriosts on the net. The type who inadvertantly help certain terrorist organisations.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So in reply to "Where is your evidence?" you reply with "Where is yours?". How damn childish. You don't have any do you? Let's be honest. None of that "Research it", bs. You have none.

We're not the one's filling the forum with our beliefs and calling others idiots for not following. The burden of proof is on you.

Either show us evidence by yourself that factually proves what you are saying or shut the hell up. Because quite frankly I'm growing sick of you. The only people as stupid as those who blindly follow Bush and the media are those who blindly believe nothing, like you.

-AC

well its true isnt it, i have passed on alot of info. so have the government. which one do u believe? obviosuly u believe the government...why?

why do u keep askin me to show evidence? i have countless of times, you just choose to ignore it like people living in denial tend to do. your growing sick of me? well tough. im sure people feel the same way about you. what do you say to them?
so what do you follow then huh? enlighten me please.
you belive in infinite consiousness and you call me crazy

Originally posted by Echuu
Really? 🙄 I'll be sure to do that when the lizard men come.

u do that

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I don't know where it is. The fact that I do not doesn't mean I will then believe the opposite view, also without concrete evidence, because that is nonsense.

I didn't 'believe' them, I barely listened to them. I don't waste my time on things I can't affect.

Show us the information. I can say there is information out there for anything, if I don't back it up, it's meaningless.

Conspiracy theorists always condemn sources of information, bar their own, which ironically are usually a Comic Book Guy type with too much time on his hands.

ok its up to you what you believe. ive shown loads of info. check search function

Why not post it again?

As Victor said, all you've shown is some random idiots internet musings. By believing that you've just shown that you're a bigger sheep than the ones you label. You ask me what I follow, why do I have to follow something? Oh I see, your view is that you have to have something to follow and it might as well not be anything "mainstream" right? Pathetic.

You hide behind your little shield of garbage throwing. All you do is read random theories on the net and defend them vehemently under the belief that if it's not mainstream, it's truer. Ironic.

You've not shown anything credible. It says a lot, because when you come up against people who are smart and who do actually know what they're going on about, you resort to "You're a sheep, wake up. I've shown info."

One question: If the government are so ultra shady and secretive (which I don't doubt they are), then don't you realise that if they didn't want you to know something, you wouldn't know it? As if the government's top secret info is gonna be leaked to the point where some random Deano in Wolverhampton will stumble across it with the view to posting it on an internet forum.

Wake yourself up.

-AC

We live in a police state for our own protection. Would you much rather have terroists running asround murdsering people. Or have bit more resrtcitve lifestyle?

Everyone go to the off topic forum and check out my thread dedicated to deano as well!!!