is this psi lord which was less powerful than franklin or is this psilord with full control of franklin's powers? the full potential one would singlehandedly destroy the pheonix. the unimind would lose against any pheonix but onslaught would win against dark pheonix{pheonix as JEAN} but would lose to the pheonix force. all in all. psi loird or onslaught alone can desytroy any jean pheonix incarnation{in which jean is in control}
Franklin Richards is a mutant with vast psionic powers. His abilities are so great that he can create "pocket" universes in alternate realities. (A "pocket" universe is a cosmos that does not equal our own in size.) When Franklin achieves the conscious use of his full powers, he will have telepathic powers, tremendous telekinetic powers, the ability to fire enormously powerful energy blasts, and the ability to rearrange the molecular structure of matter, even up to a cosmic scale.
Uni-Mind ain't no joke.
The Uni-Mind is a collective being which is created by a significant number of Eternals merging their physical and mental beings together into one organism, as such it possesses vast psionic abilities across a wide range of mental talents, including levitation, psychokinesis, telepathy, the ability to project mental bolts of force, the ability to travel through the vacuum of space unharmed and intellectual powers of information processing and problem solving far beyond human understanding
Originally posted by leonheartmm
is this psi lord which was less powerful than franklin or is this psilord with full control of franklin's powers? the full potential one would singlehandedly destroy the pheonix. the unimind would lose against any pheonix but onslaught would win against dark pheonix{pheonix as JEAN} but would lose to the pheonix force. all in all. psi loird or onslaught alone can desytroy any jean pheonix incarnation{in which jean is in control}
Ummmmm Jean and Phoenix are the same thing. Franklin would get annihilated. End of. 🙄
havent u had enough gs, pheonix is not jean and u dont have a point, franklin would annihlate even the pheonix force without too much effort.
and golem, that was beyonder BEFORE THE RETCON and kubik beat him AFTER HIS RETCON into an incomplete cosmic cube, kubik is not stronger than galactus. neither is the retconned beyonder, the current beyonder wont stand too much of a chance against pheonix.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
havent u had enough gs, pheonix is not jean and u dont have a point, franklin would annihlate even the pheonix force without too much effort.
Jeans relationship with Phoenix is discussed in depth in thi sthread. Read it and find out how very wrong you are:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=368313&pagenumber=7#post5191706
As for Franklin his full potential is actually stated on panel to be Celestial level. You have no support on panel to back up your claims therefore they are neither credible or valid. Unlucky mate. Maybe next time. 🙂
Originally posted by leonheartmm
the full potential one would singlehandedly destroy the pheonix.
One of the stupidest sentence in a long time.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
or onslaught alone can desytroy any jean pheonix incarnation{in which jean is in control}
This one is even worse.
Anyway, both of them would be destroyed pretty much easily simunetnosly. Ok, I could understand Franklin with full control of his powers and experience being actully beyond Celestial level and going against Galactus, but in no way against Phoenix.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
franklin would annihlate even the pheonix force without too much effort.
I was wrong, this one is the worst of all.
Originally posted by Xplosive
One of the stupidest sentence in a long time.This one is even worse.
Anyway, both of them would be destroyed pretty much easily simunetnosly. Ok, I could understand Franklin with full control of his powers and experience being actully beyond Celestial level and going against Galactus, but in no way against Phoenix.
I was wrong, this one is the worst of all.
hmmm, ud think that a being who could create universeS will stand a chance against an abstract who just plays a part in the cycle of one universe.
n yea gs go to hell, ur bein owned a lil too badly on the other forum to have the right to shoot ur mouth off here.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
hmmm, ud think that a being who could create universeS will stand a chance against an abstract who just plays a part in the cycle of one universe.n yea gs go to hell, ur bein owned a lil too badly on the other forum to have the right to shoot ur mouth off here.
hmmm, ud think that a being who could create existence in which Franklin lives, Phoenix who created Abstracts, actully Franklin exist because of Phoenix, could go against Phoenix.
leonheartmm, Franklin is nothing to Phoenix, absolutely nothing, Jean is a mutant, Franklin is a mutant, it was established that Phoenix is ultimate mutant and not Franklin, so that is enough. Phoenix is immesurably beyond Franklin, literally. There are three options, such a fanboy that would suck a dick from Franklin or you are stupid and cannot understand that Phoenix is ultimate mutation or you simply hate the facts, and actullt there the forth option, you must except that Phoenix is beyond Franklin.
i MUST accept nuthing, n u better watch ur mouth. this is a debate n i dont wanna make it personal, i never said pheonix didnt make franklin, but pheonix also made dr strange, n dr strange actually resisted the tribunal, the infinite gauntlett{which would kill pheonix}, and death herself{another abstract}, just cause they made him doesnt mean hes below them, n just cause uve become a gs groupie n deny all that is shown doesnt mean i have to waste my time on u.