Re: Re: Why CAN'T Superman beat Thanos??
Originally posted by Beyonder
Because Surfer flying around and blitzing Thanos with energy blast and such don't do jack to Thanos. Surfer has never hurt Thanos with PC.Speedblizting doesn't work for Superman or Gladiator because his durability is greater than there punch. And in comics, the laws of physics don't apply in exact. Class 100 punch X Lightspeed = Someone getting knocked away into some mountain or wherehouse and then getting up to fight some more.
As for limited moment, he's fast. Not superfast. But he's not one to run about. Ever really seen him rush anything? That's not his style. The only time you see him active is in a fight with someone stronger or on par with him. Surfer ain't that guy.
No. As an Eternal Titans, he's already powerful. A mutant of his race he's more powerful than your average Titan. He's enhanced his powers through mechanic means. Fought Drax and an even footing; foot Thor and Thing on an even footing. After that, Death gave him an even more powerful body.
Can they hurt him? Strange could, but even he has to exert his power and talismans.
Superman, Surfer, Gladiator would do what to him? Punch him? Drax hasn't been successful in that.
Also consider than Tyrant stomped a slew of bricks and energy wielders. Same argument could be made that PIS/CIS was on. Surfer, Bill, Terrax, and Gladiator weren't doing speedblitz or matter manipulations eithers. When it comes done to it, Tyrant is just more powerful and they couldn't hurt him with those attacks if they tried. Same with Thanos, Odin, Galactus, Hela, Set, etc.
Basically, Thanos appearances show him as a powerhouse. His experiences and achievements result in the current Thanos. There's progression in his power; in first appearance, he wasn't portrayed this powerful like most beings (PC Darkseid, Cube Beings, Thor, Surfer, etc.)
They didn't gain more power, he did throughout his years.
well put sups get crushed like the bug he is everytime they hook up
Originally posted by dvampire
So because Supes beat strong guys, the characters he beat are always jobbing? But it's okay for Thanos to beat Surfer them? 😕Whatever, like I said, Supes wins IMO, and it's not changing any time soon. 🙂
thats becuz ur completly insane pal. sups gets stomped and outlasted every damn time daryl
People can argue about a lot of things, but Thanos being smarter than Clark should not be in question. Is Supes smarter than Batman? If not, why do you even put him in Thanos league? He can outsmart Doom easily and he is a human genius; if you think Clark is smarter than Batman, you still dont prove anything against Thanos intelligence, but you make a very good point about an assumedly intelligent character who with the potential of using his wisdom to increase his overall status does... Nothing about it.
So wait, Superman's claim to the fight is that he's faster and debated as strong and durable? He wins by speedblitz because Thanos doesn't fight speedblitzers all the time, and can't react?
In that case, with that justification, why can't Superman also beat Odin? Or Tyrant for that matter? Those two don't deal in speedblitzes, so...how is that any different than Superman fighting Thanos?
IMO, he's certainly not going to beat either of those two, and he's not going to beat Thanos.
Why?
Because Thanos outclass him in every sector, except for the flight speed.
Thanos before being resurrected by Lady Death was already a threat for most of Marvel's Earth and other non Earth based beings.After his resurrection, and further quests for power, his physical stats reached even higher levels.See he could take out the Fallen One like he was some kind of a freak, and during Annihilation he's not even dazed by Annihilus new power levels, which means he's above him and probably by far.Superman only chance is being imbued by that cosmic entity like against Imperious in OWAW, or he's screwed.
Thanos is not the average team wrecker, he's a galaxy wrecker.Mastermind, physical brute, capable of energy manipulation feats for almost any offensive and defensive purpose
Originally posted by Kid KurdyYa, and Surfer would beat Superman.
I don't see the big deal here. Odin and Tyrant are above Thanos and Superman.Both Thanos and Superman would get beaten in the end by these two.
What he is saying, is that Odin hasn't dealt with speedsters. Your reasoning is that Thanos hasn't (well, Fallen One, and Runner... with the Space Gem), so that is why your saying Superman would speedblitz him?
So why can't Superman speedblitz Tyrant, or hell, let him Speedblitz Maker.
If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. Speed does not always make a difference. Spider-Man is faster than Juggernaut, but he's not putting Juggernaut down. Captain America was faster than Kingpin, and look what happened to him. The list just goes on and on and on. Superman cannot, and would not, beat Thanos. That is the end of the story. Any person who says otherwise, to be honest, doesn't know jack shit about Thanos.