I still give to Supes (sorry for any Thanos lovers, I just can't see him taking the majority), Thanos has no superspeed and is rarely speedbiltzed, but when he is being speedbiltzed (CA who's way slower then Superman, Genis, and Runner all was running circles around the guy), he was in huge trouble. I see Supes taking this, with speed, strength and being just as durable as Thanos.
Originally posted by bigbran
darkseid also has plenty of feats to prove hes beter than supes. i know since supes has tooken blast by people that dont actully job to him.( basically knowone)
So because Supes beat strong guys, the characters he beat are always jobbing? But it's okay for Thanos to beat Surfer them? 😕
Whatever, like I said, Supes wins IMO, and it's not changing any time soon. 🙂
Re: Re: Why CAN'T Superman beat Thanos??
Originally posted by aliveinboston
Thanos is stronger, faster and more intelligent.
Thanos is not faster. Even on the Thanos fan sites, they admit his speed isn't all that. Stop giving Thanos powers he just doesn't have.
Thanos is not more intelligent. Why do some people seem to forget that Superman is extremely intelligent ? There's not much he doesn't know, and he has - how stupid it may sound - super intelligence.
Speedblitz is a stupid concept.
Conclusion : Superman is way faster, stronger, at least as intelligent as Thanos, his durability is the same or very close and he can fly.
Gee, I wonder who would win this fight.
Re: Re: Re: Why CAN'T Superman beat Thanos??
Originally posted by who?-kidThanos is not stronger, Superman practically invented strength feats. Thanos strength feats are pretty weak compared to Supes.
Thanos is not faster. Even on the Thanos fan sites, they admit his speed isn't all that. Stop giving Thanos powers he just doesn't have.
Thanos is not more intelligent. Why do some people seem to forget that Superman is extremely intelligent ? There's not much he doesn't know, and he has - how stupid it may sound - super intelligence.
Yeah, you Thanos fan boys really don't like speedblitzes 🙂 I think I know why
Conclusion : Superman is way faster, stronger, at least as intelligent as Thanos, his durability is the same or very close and he can fly.
Gee, I wonder who would win this fight. [/B]
Gee, thanos is alot more intelligent; hes a inter-galactic mastermind who frequently out-wits cosmics even with cosmic-awareness. How can a Reporter match up to that? dont be silly clark might be a smart human. But Thanos is a Titan; his intelligence is out of clark's/anyone's league for that matter.
His durability is not the same or very close, Superman had the fight of his life with Thor; whereas Thanos has taken thor & surfer and crew on many occasion more than once, he has also taken Odin. Whom would destroy Supes very easily.
Strength? wow lets see, Thanos tangles with hulk, thor, thing, gladiator, adam warlock, silver-surfer all the time (sometimes at the same time) of whom he schools alot of them and laughs off their blows.
IMO Thanos: Intelligence, Durability, Strength
Supes: Speed and Flying.
and dont try call me a fanboy, I actually despise the Mad titan.
"Thanos has no superspeed and is rarely speedbiltzed, but when he is being speedbiltzed (CA who's way slower then Superman, Genis, and Runner all was running circles around the guy), he was in huge trouble. I see Supes taking this, with speed, strength and being just as durable as Thanos."
With huge trouble you mean still taking them out?
Thanos is more durable.
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"Thanos is not stronger, Superman practically invented strength feats"
For someone that isent stronger he sure beats alot of top tiers and heralds easily.
Say, when was the last time Superman looked physically dominating with ease against other top tiers.
I even let you use bloodlust Superman.
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"Thanos survived a blackhole. He was hella hurt, but he survived it. Superman flees blackholes at his highest speeds."
The blackhole that was created with the exact porpuse to kill him iirc?
The two examples arent the same thing.
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"Thanos strength feats are pretty weak compared to Supes."
You have it the other way around. Direct combat with other top tiers have him easily above. Supes dont. And besides the direct combat feats you still have him destroying a planet when battling the pre power up Drax.
Now if that doesnt make one here above the other i dont know what it will.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why CAN'T Superman beat Thanos??
Originally posted by Mr.V
Gee, thanos is alot more intelligent; hes a inter-galactic mastermind who frequently out-wits cosmics even with cosmic-awareness.
How can a Reporter match up to that?dont be silly clark might be a smart human.
But Thanos is a Titan; his intelligence is out of clark's/anyone's league for that matter.
His durability is not the same or very close, Superman had the fight of his life with Thor
Mjolnir is all about Magic, Superman has no special protection against magic. Thanos also has no or very few magic attacks, so Superman won't have that problem with him.whereas Thanos has taken thor & surfer and crew on many occasion more than once, he has also taken Odin.
Third mistake. Thanos never has taken Odin. Whom would destroy Supes very easily.
No he wouldn't. Odin would destroy Superman - like he'd destroy Thanos by the way - but not very easily.Strength? wow lets see, Thanos tangles with hulk, thor, thing, gladiator, adam warlock, silver-surfer all the time (sometimes at the same time) of whom he schools alot of them and laughs off their blows.
Fourth mistake : you confuse durability and overall power with strength. Strength is for example being able to lift heavy things. Superman has these feats in his pocket. Again, Thanos is very powerful, very strong (stronger than a normal Hulk) but not stronger than Superman.
You know why I say that ? Because in almost every Superman comic, he does something completely insane with his strength (PC Superman was even stronger). Thanos doesn'tand dont try call me a fanboy, I actually despise the Mad titan.
And I like him. He's a cool villain. But I don't give him powers he doesn't have. At least you don't give Thanos super speed like some other members. There is still hope for you.
Originally posted by olympian
You have it the other way around. Direct combat with other top tiers have him easily above. Supes dont. And besides the direct combat feats you still have him destroying a planet when battling the pre power up Drax.
speculation. it's impossible to say that was a strength feat. they could have used energy at any point in the battle. the text says it 'ultimately' blew up. that clearly implies their initial meeting wasn't the only part of the battle. and in any event 2 other points: he didn't do it alone, he had drax to help him (and don't give me the old 'drax is only 40-tons so how much could he have helped!' clearly if their initial meeting shifted the 'ebbs and tides' of this world, and a planetary explosion only weakened him, drax was being depicted as beyond his later 40-ton level. in later meetings, drax was ko'd by thanos with simple blasts) AND there was a planetary explosion -- the planet did not blow up or get destroyed -- they were still ON it at the end of the fight.
only thing clear about that very unclear fight: a portion of the planet blew up while they were fighting. we don't even know the size of the planet. maybe it was puny. 😬
"speculation. it's impossible to say that was a strength feat. they could have used energy at any point in the battle."
Maybe so, maybe not. But a planet or a large part of it, was destroyed easily as a result of the two fighting. Whatever that was pure slugest or not its hardly the point.
I seem to recall both grappling when the explosion happened tho. Anyone have the scans avaiable?
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"he didn't do it alone, he had drax to help him (and don't give me the old 'drax is only 40-tons so how much could he have helped!"
I personally dont belive he was. Its impossible, he wasent stronger than Thanos either but the handbooks are wrong in that regard. In fact they are mostly worthless when applied in the medium aside from the sheer fun of it.
But both wer powered up from those days. Thanos its easy to see how much. Drax he was at least oficially, altho he probably has some better feats too. Im not too aknowleged in the character to say in what ways. Only physically perhaps.
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"we don't even know the size of the planet. maybe it was puny"
Its still something that average wise its beyond what usually the top tier folks do.
that's all fine. but since it may or may not have happened, then it can't be listed as a strength feat for him. or at best you can call it one but not have proof of it.
drax was later shown to be a LOT weaker than thanos and sort of became pathetic. seriously -- why the hell create an arch-nemesis who can't even compete with the person he was created to battle??
drax is one of the characters who really lost his way in marvel, then he became the superstrong joke with the gem. the latest mini appeared to have promise, though i've not read it.