"considering i have seen thanos get knocked out by a fake thor in the gauntlet series there no reason to think that superman couldnt do the same."
In nowhere in that storyline Thanos was knocked out by Macsterson Thor.
Being able to punch Thanos its something in the range of the high top tier.
Beating him its what its not.
Originally posted by olympian
"considering i have seen thanos get knocked out by a fake thor in the gauntlet series there no reason to think that superman couldnt do the same."In nowhere in that storyline Thanos was knocked out by Macsterson Thor.
Being able to punch Thanos its something in the range of the high top tier. Beating him its what isent.
So if Aunt May punched him, she would become Top tier ? 😕
Originally posted by olympian
"considering i have seen thanos get knocked out by a fake thor in the gauntlet series there no reason to think that superman couldnt do the same."In nowhere in that storyline Thanos was knocked out by Macsterson Thor.
Being able to punch Thanos its something in the range of the high top tier.
Beating him its what its not.
Actually while he had the gauntlet when he was fight the all the heros Thor suprised him with a punch and knocked him out for a few seconds and then doom tried to take the gauntlet from him but thanos quickly gained back consiousness, so yes actually thanos was knocked out for a few seconds if you would like i could give you the page number when i get home later.
Originally posted by olympian
I though you mentioned when he punched him. The instance your talking about was when he trew the hammer (full hit) at Thanos and he fell. Doom tried to take the Gauntlet and Thanos blasted him.
He didnt just fall he was laid out on the ground, as in he wasnt awake. Why else do you think doom said something along the lines of i need to take it while i have a chance.
Im not saying you are wrong. Your interpretation is valid.
If he was, it was definatly for some seconds only, since he was like that when Doom tried to take the Gauntlet and in the next moment he was blasted and Thanos was up like nothing happened.
Either that or he was stunned in the floor. Either works.
Re: Why CAN'T Superman beat Thanos??
Originally posted by long pig
Ok, before I say anything, I don't want any of that bullshit fanboy D.C/Marvel bias.I just want to know why someone as fast as Surfer & Superman & Gladiator can't beat Thanos. Why couldn't they speedblitz him? Why could they not throw him to space where he can't fly and use their powers against him there?
How does he beat someone who is so fast, and very strong and can fly when he has very limited movement?
Because Surfer flying around and blitzing Thanos with energy blast and such don't do jack to Thanos. Surfer has never hurt Thanos with PC.
Speedblizting doesn't work for Superman or Gladiator because his durability is greater than there punch. And in comics, the laws of physics don't apply in exact. Class 100 punch X Lightspeed = Someone getting knocked away into some mountain or wherehouse and then getting up to fight some more.
As for limited moment, he's fast. Not superfast. But he's not one to run about. Ever really seen him rush anything? That's not his style. The only time you see him active is in a fight with someone stronger or on par with him. Surfer ain't that guy.
I've often wondered if the heroes don't go through a P.I.S/C.I.S fase when they fight Thanos.
No. As an Eternal Titans, he's already powerful. A mutant of his race he's more powerful than your average Titan. He's enhanced his powers through mechanic means. Fought Drax and an even footing; foot Thor and Thing on an even footing. After that, Death gave him an even more powerful body.
There is no real reason why Superman/Surfer/Gladiator/Strange couldn't beat him.
Can they hurt him? Strange could, but even he has to exert his power and talismans.
Superman, Surfer, Gladiator would do what to him? Punch him? Drax hasn't been successful in that.
Also consider than Tyrant stomped a slew of bricks and energy wielders. Same argument could be made that PIS/CIS was on. Surfer, Bill, Terrax, and Gladiator weren't doing speedblitz or matter manipulations eithers. When it comes done to it, Tyrant is just more powerful and they couldn't hurt him with those attacks if they tried. Same with Thanos, Odin, Galactus, Hela, Set, etc.
Basically, Thanos appearances show him as a powerhouse. His experiences and achievements result in the current Thanos. There's progression in his power; in first appearance, he wasn't portrayed this powerful like most beings (PC Darkseid, Cube Beings, Thor, Surfer, etc.)
They didn't gain more power, he did throughout his years.
Originally posted by long pig
Surfer always ends up h2h with Thanos(For unknown reasons), but a bloodlusted Surfer with no pis/cis would never once touch him. Just do his 300x lightspeed while blasting.
Strange has taken on far more powerful people than Thanos, and yet he says "He's too powerful"? Strange has fought the LT and lived. Fought Dormammu(A full fledged Skyfather)and has a winning record.
Yet, Thanos...too powerful? That's jobbing to the extreme. What keeps Strange from simply banishing him?
Hell, Strange's highest feats(Other than I.G type stuff) make Thanos' look like childsplay.
At the least, they should all be capable of stalemating him.
I am NOT saying Superman will win, or will have it easy, but there's no plausible explanation why Superman couldn't win.
For a number of the characters out there that end up being pawned by Thanos, I guess I never completely questioned it as he does it so often.
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Once during the Infinity Gauntlet story, Strange transported the essences of Silver Surfer and Thanos to another dimension to "work out their differences". Both had their cosmic powers removed and only had some knight armor and a horse of some sort. Surfer came out on top and probably could have killed Thanos then and there, until some choice words from Thanos made the Surfer back away, resulting in a quick turn of events and Thanos came out on top. It seems that whenever these two fight, Thanos can easily get into Surfer's head, and that advantage gives Thanos the upper hand most of the time.That and Thanos is more powerful.
I think it was more like an astral plane-like version as both of them never left their physical bodies and I think Surfer was told by Strange to eventually lose, despite getting the upper hand.
Originally posted by long pig
Well, SS isn't known for his intelligence. He's a bit retarded at times.
Originally posted by K Von Doom[/i]
Before he was changed to the Surfer, Norrin was a smart guy.
He was suppose to be a brillant, but due to the time gap of Zenn-la and what he is currently, his knowledge has deteriorated. In Dynamo City when his power cosmic was neutralized, he tried getting a job to get a ticket out of there and when talking to the job recruiter about his skills, he said he was limited to Zenn-la tech. knowledge and his typing skills were rusty as he hadn't typed in 50 years (the time may have been reconned now as before, he was only a herald for 250 years and not the 2,500 + years now).
Originally posted by Scoobles
the first time Surfer ever met Thanos he used full power cosmic blasts on him to no effect...... that's probably why he doesn't waste his energy on pointless assaults
Pacifist Surfer to a then unknown villain to him? I doubt he would go out with a full blast. Just a little more of a warning shot as he's done with Jack of Hearts when he sort of snuck behind him (when his containment armor was damaged).
Originally posted by radioboy121
I think Surfer was told by Strange to eventually lose, despite getting the upper hand.
I don't remember this happening. From what I know, Strange had no control over the fight, nor did he have any way of communicating with the two of them while they were fighting. The rest of them on the physical plane... Drax, Hulk, Thor, Firelord, Warlock and Strange were worried about Thanos' well being when Surfer had that crazy look on his face. I'm quite certain it was Thanos' words that caused Surfer to lose.
I don't think anybody mentioned Starfox flying around Thanos and dodging Thanos's punchs before eventually getting knocked out by Thanos.
There was also that time where he didn't notice Surfer was trying to speed blitz the IG from his hand and Thanos didn't notice it until SS missed.
Thanos's reaction times are overrated.