Porno tax

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's all wrong though isn't? Because someone could see a murder being committed and enjoy it, yet still be afraid of the consequences enough to not do it. It's like women who have sexual fantasies, for some reason, about rape. I doubt they actually want it to happen just because they enjoy a certain aspect of the idea.

Pete Townshend was revealed to have child material on his comp, the man is no abductor. He said himself that he'd never dream of going out, kidnapping a kid and hurting him or her.

-AC

Well, obviously there are exceptions to everything.

The point I was trying to make without coming off as anti-porn was the idea that Porn desensitized a great deal of the people who watch it to the act of "normal" sex, and in doing so, they try to find more and more devious porn to give them the same thrill that they had when they first saw a naked chick. Which could, and has, lead to enjoying child pornography.

Then, I connected the two by saying that some of those people who were bored with normal porn, and then turned on to kiddie porn would become more and more comfortable about the idea of pedo sex. And since having sex with minors is more culturally taboo than naturally taboo, it won't take too much for this to happen.

Originally posted by long pig
Porno does indeed **** your mind up.

No a mind that's already f*cked up may get even more so by not grasping the reality of what he/she is watching.

Originally posted by long pig
Seriously, though, porn really has no positives.

As many people have previously stated. Porn can often assuage the desires of someone be they deviant desires or not.

Originally posted by long pig
If you watch enough weird kiddy porn or whatever is sick at the moment, it will become more and more natural to you, thus making the act less and less offensive. Which might lead to real life acts

Who said anything about kiddie porn? When did that jump occur? Are you saying watching adult porn leads to kiddie porn? That is an entirely different debate (which you would most likely loose). You are aware that paedophilia is defined as a sexual attraction or preference for children. Adult porn does not encourage paedophilia, people who want to find kidde porn go looking for kiddie porn.

Originally posted by long pig
I know where you're coming from, but it's pretty much common sense that porn can lead you astray. It has no positives.

Well, people have told you the positives, and though there are also negatives (i.e. negative self image or stereotyping) saying that porn can leave you astray and has no positives is a general statement with little evidence to hold it up. Because it is your opinion does not make it fact.

Originally posted by long pig
If at first you're curious about kiddy porn, but still have the cultural disgust toward it, you won't even think about acting it out.
But, if you watch kiddy porn, it slowly rusts away the natural/cultural disgust, making the act more and more acceptible to you.
Which hightens the chances you are going to attempt it.

Here you go again with kiddie porn. I have a feeling you have some unresolved issues.

Originally posted by long pig
No, it's saying before there were porn, there were less sex crimes, which is true.

Where are your facts on this? Where are you getting this information? There are more sex crimes now because there are more people to commit them.

Originally posted by long pig
Of course, there always has been porn, but never the amount there is today.

This is the only valid thing you have said so far.

Originally posted by long pig
The chances of her becoming a metal vocalist after actually hearing & slowly enjoying metal music doubles 100 fold in compairison to the chances of her becoming a metal vocalist before hearing hard rock & knowing it exists.

So you are comparing the effects of media stimulus on the career desires of a child to the progressive development of someone watching adult porn to preferring kiddie porn to committing acts of paedophilia? Sounds rational....no, wait, it doesn't sound rational at all!

Originally posted by long pig
It's pretty simple rational that a person will be more willing to commit an act after seeing it and enjoying it than a person who didn't know that the act existed in the first place. Especially concerning pedophelia, which is governed more so by culture than by natural law.

It may be simple to you, but the more I read, the more I question your rational.

Originally posted by long pig
Well, obviously there are exceptions to everything.

The point I was trying to make without coming off as anti-porn was the idea that Porn desensitized a great deal of the people who watch it to the act of "normal" sex, and in doing so, they try to find more and more devious porn to give them the same thrill that they had when they first saw a naked chick. Which could, and has, lead to enjoying child pornography.

Then, I connected the two by saying that some of those people who were bored with normal porn, and then turned on to kiddie porn would become more and more comfortable about the idea of pedo sex. And since having sex with minors is more culturally taboo than naturally taboo, it won't take too much for this to happen.

So basically what you are basing your entire argument on are the exceptions? It seems that you have lightened your stance from " Porno does indeed **** your mind up." to "
The point I was trying to make without coming off as anti-porn".

I have a question for you. There's a cannabis leaf in your avatar. Do you smoke? If you do won't that lead to you doing coke or heroin?

Originally posted by long pig
The point I was trying to make without coming off as anti-porn was the idea that Porn desensitized a great deal of the people who watch it to the act of "normal" sex, and in doing so, they try to find more and more devious porn to give them the same thrill that they had when they first saw a naked chick. Which could, and has, lead to enjoying child pornography.

Hahaha, I get it now. You're just confused. See, you're using is the theory of addiction and craving which would apply to a chemical dependancy and the need for a heightened rush. Not a sexual one. You want the drugs thread, it's down there on aisle 5.

Originally posted by long pig
Then, I connected the two by saying that some of those people who were bored with normal porn, and then turned on to kiddie porn would become more and more comfortable about the idea of pedo sex.

Yes I know you connected the two. Judging by the sheer nonsense of the above quite, I hope we both realise that connecting them was wrong.

Originally posted by long pig
And since having sex with minors is more culturally taboo than naturally taboo, it won't take too much for this to happen.

What are you basing all this on?

-AC

Originally posted by long pig
No, it's saying before there were porn, there were less sex crimes, which is true.

Of course, there always has been porn, but never the amount there is today.

In what context are we speaking? Technically speaking, by population ratios sex crimes are less common now in modern society where such things are more defined by the law and it's less likely one will get away with it - history is full of raping, child abuse and so forth - nothing to do with porn really, and far more common then, then now.

One example is the fact Rome was founded in a way that today would be considered rape on a massive scale - nothing to do with pornography, just the culture of the time and the proto-Romans "right" do take the women of there defeated enemies as there own.

Still, porn doesn't appeal to me, but I don't believe in deamonising genres based on what a weak willed few do - the ones who say "I killed because the TV said so" or "I raped because some porno made it seem alright."

And meh, they can tax it, everything else gets taxed, why not this?

How has Pron desensitized us as a culture........back in the 1800's you weren't cool unless you had like 10 kids running around.......I'd say something was going on.......Brothels all over the place!

i dont think you actually made point or asked a real question in that

It was what I like to call a mental ejaculation.

Originally posted by soleran30
How has Pron desensitized us as a culture........back in the 1800's you weren't cool unless you had like 10 kids running around.......I'd say something was going on.......Brothels all over the place!

It's difficult to explain, but it's a conspiracy worthy of Deano. Tiny shrimp trying to take over the world. Oh, and it's spelled 'prawn'.

yeah Forest Gump tried to kill as many shrimp as he could before they took over the world, but he wasn't good enough...tis a shame

Seamen catch prawns; in porn... I'm sure we all get the gist.

Or do we, I never know anymore.

they catch porn at sea...well thats an eye opener