How strong is a Thor WITHOUT Mjolnir ?

This is the pic b4 it.

Here is Thor struggling with a smaller building. It too must weigh more than the Midgard Serpent. 🙄

Have i made my point yet Sentry. 🙂 As your not exactly the 'quickest' guy around here I'll make it simple.

My point is, one min a character is Lifting something the size of earth, next min he is struggling with buildings. Its all down to a writers interpretation 😉 Namor in the feats department is far more consistent than Thor. And he has as many battle victories. Hence my original point :

"has more IMPRESSIVE feats, But Namor has a lot MORE feats. In the battle department they seem pretty even"

Now stop being an arse !!!!!!!! 🙂

Thank you yahman. Thats what i was trying to say.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Thank you yahman. Thats what i was trying to say.

Mate i must commend you on seeing past Sentry's Bull Shit !!!!!!!!!!

As you justly stated;

'Well in Namor's defence, let him try to lift the Midgard Serpent and fail. Until then, you still cant say Namor can do this or that if he hasnt even tried.'

🙂

hmm, a telling point in the thor/namor issue happened when namor really struggled against abomination underwater.

IF you fell thor beats abomination, it's likely he would be stronger than namor even underwater.

personally? i think it's close, but i'd give the edge in strength to thor, but it's close enough that the difference would likely be negligible.

Once Namor got serious, he didnt struggle at all and the fight ended rather quickly.

it was still very close fight. i give namor the edge in strength over abom, but it WAS pretty close. didn't namor have to take the fight to the air??

^ No, Abom threw him in the air.

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/345/namorfeat686lx.gif
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Sorry for the wrong links before.

no worries. but in that fight (thanks for the scans, btw, saved me looking for the book!) it looks like it was more namor's durability under water than his strength that was the difference. i mean, abom was suffering the bends!

anyway, why are we discussing this again? 🙂

Yahman brought it up. Thor is stronger. 🙂

I don't believe Mjolnir has any effect on thors strength level.
However...it gives him a ton of versatility.

Avalonofthewind>>I don't believe Mjolnir has any effect on thors strength level.
However...it gives him a ton of versatility.<<

^ True.

Adam Warlock>>Thor is stronger. <<

^ Never been proven, therefore an in-valid statement. 😄

I could take Thor even with his hammer.box 😆

"In the 2004 X-men handbook is says that he is still class 100 and strength level is still unknown.

He took on AF and Was fighting Sasquatch, Vindicator, and Guardian in a fairly recent Uncanny issue. He was actually winning but quite fighting and left AF take him into custody. I think Sasquatch was wearing Hulk-buster armour also"

I dont recall Sas wearing an armour. Ill check it tho.

Handbooks aside, in the comics, since he was depowered hes has not been in his classic levels. Not of strenght and neither of durability.

Originally posted by olympian
"In the 2004 X-men handbook is says that he is still class 100 and strength level is still unknown.

He took on AF and Was fighting Sasquatch, Vindicator, and Guardian in a fairly recent Uncanny issue. He was actually winning but quite fighting and left AF take him into custody. I think Sasquatch was wearing Hulk-buster armour also"

I dont recall Sas wearing an armour. Ill check it tho.

Handbooks aside, in the comics, since he was depowered hes has not been in his classic levels. Not of strenght and neither of durability.

He did KO Rhino with one punch. The second fight with Sasquatch did involve Hulk buster armour. He beat a Juggernaut who was 'more than 2 as strong as him'. She hulk referred to him as being much stronger, and she is a Level 6 character. All this clearly suggest he is Level 7 character. Marvel . com still has him listed as level 7.

There is no doubt his durability has decreased immensely, since the Avengers Exemplar incident. Beings such as Iceman, Black Tom, Sasquatch and blob could never have dreamed of hurting him, when at his classic levels. IMO the jury is still out on his strength. For me he always relied heavily on his durability, rather than brute strength, when fighting power houses such as the Hulk and Thor. Maybe his strength hasn't decreased that much. 🙂

Originally posted by yahman
This is Thor struggling with a Sky Scraper. There for it weighs more than the Midgard Serpent. 🙄

Enjoy !!!!!!!

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I don't believe Mjolnir has any effect on thors strength level.
However...it gives him a ton of versatility.

Originally posted by jrodslam
^ No, Abom threw him in the air.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Man he's not struggling, the problem is keeping the building in equilibrium, he hasn't got that limited telekinesis which grant guys like Superman or Superboy to avoid objects from collapsing or falling.

A clever response ! Although it is flawed by your own theory. The same laws of physics that in your words are 'the problem is keeping the building in equilibrium,' would prevent him from lifting the building all together. It is impossible to lift an object that heavy from a single point of pressure. You cannot use science to justify your argument and then ignore when it suits you. 🙂