How strong is a Thor WITHOUT Mjolnir ?

Started by kgkg4 pages

Originally posted by Wynndar
that moon is the size of a highschool though? Its more like a asteroid with a diameter aproximately fifty or sixty times wider than Superman's shoulders...isnt our moons diameter about 3,000 miles?

yep

it's says a SMALL MOON and it's not even destoryed

The smallest moon of Saturn is 5.6km. Mid-size is about 110km. The largest "small" moon would be about 37km.

Most small Saturn moons are made of ice.

I'm not concluding anything from that, just giving some facts.

And is it just me, or are kgkg and Cosmic Cube disagreeing???

Originally posted by demigawd
The smallest moon of Saturn is 5.6km. Mid-size is about 110km. The largest "small" moon would be about 37km.

Most small Saturn moons are made of ice.

I'm not concluding anything from that, just giving some facts.

And is it just me, or are kgkg and Cosmic Cube disagreeing???

No, we aren't. Usually we only disagree on issues involving Thanos.

Hey, demi. 😉

<<i just find it amusing that one has too dig up a Thor comic that was being read by Cavemen, to see him do anything impressive. >>

yahman, the book is actually not old at all. it's either thor 400 or an annual that was right about that time. it was drawn to LOOK old to give it the feeling of an old myth/legend. it could actually be considered pretty current.

i'm also not sure what you are contending. just that thor's not as strong as some are saying?

Originally posted by leonidas
<<i just find it amusing that one has too dig up a Thor comic that was being read by Cavemen, to see him do anything impressive. >>

yahman, the book is actually not old at all. it's either thor 400 or an annual that was right about that time. it was drawn to LOOK old to give it the feeling of an old myth/legend. it could actually be considered pretty current.

i'm also not sure what you are contending. just that thor's not as strong as some are saying?

At first, he insisted that Thor is only strong enough to barely lift a skyscraper, or slightly above. I firmly believe that Thor is in the same class of strength as Superman, a belief shared by just about every comic book writer. Kgkg just further substantiated this belief with his scan.

Originally posted by demigawd
The smallest moon of Saturn is 5.6km. Mid-size is about 110km. The largest "small" moon would be about 37km.

Most small Saturn moons are made of ice.

I'm not concluding anything from that, just giving some facts.

And is it just me, or are kgkg and Cosmic Cube disagreeing???

I responded to your post in "Can Hulk beat Superman." Check it out.

hey cc!! so do YOU think iw can block tp? heheheh. sorry, long debate . . .

anyway, of course thor is in supes' class. as you know i'll give the nod to supes, but it is still very close imo.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
No, we aren't. Usually we only disagree on issues involving Thanos.

Hey, demi. 😉

Ah, and that's why you're the undead tribunal! I haven't seen you around in awhile. Must be spending too much time logged in as your two alter egos. 😄

I'll go read your other post...

Originally posted by demigawd
The smallest moon of Saturn is 5.6km. Mid-size is about 110km. The largest "small" moon would be about 37km.

Most small Saturn moons are made of ice.

I'm not concluding anything from that, just giving some facts.

And is it just me, or are kgkg and Cosmic Cube disagreeing???

I dont think that the writer or artists were really all that concerned with science when they made that illustration. Moons that size i.e. the moons of neptune and pluto dont even have a spherical shape because during their formation they lacked sufficient gravity to acquire that shape.

But considering we can see the outline or blur of a 230lb humanoid who doesnt have shoulders bigger than 50 inches, splitting that tiny moon in half, it cant resemble anything in our solar system. The DC solar system is different anyway.

Originally posted by demigawd
Ah, and that's why you're the undead tribunal! I haven't seen you around in awhile. Must be spending too much time logged in as your two alter egos. 😄

I'll go read your other post...

*sigh* Demigawd and his conspiracy theories.... 😄

Something to consider - there's a big difference between being able to lift/move a set weight and being able to lift certain object. A skyscraper is extemely delicate - struggling with it is a much a function of balance as it is strength. How good a handle you have on something is also a big factor. You guys have experienced it before - that annoying bag with the handle that just squeezes the blood out of your hand. Even though it's not heavy, you have to keep adjusting it because it fricken hurts.

So don't be so quick to look at all feats as matters of weight. Thor isn't a tactile telekinetic like, say, Gladiator.

very good point

Originally posted by demigawd
Something to consider - there's a big difference between being able to lift/move a set weight and being able to lift certain object. A skyscraper is extemely delicate - struggling with it is a much a function of balance as it is strength. How good a handle you have on something is also a big factor. You guys have experienced it before - that annoying bag with the handle that just squeezes the blood out of your hand. Even though it's not heavy, you have to keep adjusting it because it fricken hurts.

So don't be so quick to look at all feats as matters of weight. Thor isn't a tactile telekinetic like, say, Gladiator.

Try telling that to yahman. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Wynndar
I dont think that the writer or artists were really all that concerned with science when they made that illustration. Moons that size i.e. the moons of neptune and pluto dont even have a spherical shape because during their formation they lacked sufficient gravity to acquire that shape.

But considering we can see the outline or blur of a 230lb humanoid who doesnt have shoulders bigger than 50 inches, splitting that tiny moon in half, it cant resemble anything in our solar system. The DC solar system is different anyway.

Most of the moons of Saturn do have a spherical shape, though. Either way, its largest moon, Titan (which does exist in DC) isn't THAT much larger than Earth's moon - so a "small" moon is going to be a lot smaller. And like I said, it's mainly ice too. So it's not going to be a hugely impressive feat. though getting there in four minutes is.

Why do you people argue with DC/Superman supporters?
It always comes down to Supes is the original Superhero, blah blah blah! Inconsistency of feats is never a good measure of character. Many writers have a favorite character, and other characters suffer because of it. The only reason why Superman is never shown failing with lighter loads is because he's DC's premier superhero. He can't be allowed to fail, because then it takes away from DC. think about it. Why in the DOS, was he the last one fighting Doomsday? He isn't the most durable character(at least not biologically) in the league. But if he fought DD with other top tier leaguers, and died while they continued to fight DD, and eventually put him down, that would've shown Supes to not be "The Best". Mass fanboy suicides would occur.
Even in his death, they had to beat into our heads that only he can put Doomsday down cuz he's Superman!! If Thor was the premier hero of Marvel(do they even have one?), i bet his showings would be more consistently awe inspiring.

Originally posted by demigawd
Most of the moons of Saturn do have a spherical shape, though. Either way, its largest moon, Titan (which does exist in DC) isn't THAT much larger than Earth's moon - so a "small" moon is going to be a lot smaller. And like I said, it's mainly ice too. So it's not going to be a hugely impressive feat. though getting there in four minutes is.

I agree. I was just saying, since that moon is so small i wouldnt compare it to Titan which is more like a small planet. The moons of pluto and neptune are very small and stone and not even spherical but still bigger than the one in the scan. I was just pointing out how it wasnt exactly astrophysically accurate. The moon must be close by though, Superman has admitted himself he cant fly faster than light.

He is still a bad mo-fo.