Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Now this I want to hear. How does Magneto beat someone who has all these powers?
Right, and Magneto has about the same amount, if not, more powers than Apocalypse does. His power of electromagnetic energy manipulation grants him a seemingly endless array of powers.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Apocalypse possesses great superhuman strength and is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons.
Whoopity friggin’ doo. Magneto has broken Hercules’ bear hug he had on him with his own strength. He’s also stood toe to toe with Colossus, and has taken a full shot from Namor without damage. What makes you think Apocalypse’s strength is going to make the slightest bit of difference in this fight?
Let’s also mention the fact that Magneto’s force fields have taken a shot from She Hulk and Thor wielding Mjolnir at the same time. Magneto laughed it off stating mere physical force couldn’t penetrate his shields.
http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Known Powers: Apocalypse is easily one of the most powerful mutants who ever lived. Apocalypse is a Alpha-Level mutant.
Yeah, and the same goes for Magneto as well.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Body Control: Apocalypse can alter the molecular structure of his body at will.
And all of this means next to nothing when your body is being manipulated on a subatomic level. Magneto either draws his life energy out, or fuses a large amount of metallic particles to his body, or rips his blood out, or gives him an aneurysm, or a stroke, etc. etc.
Tell me something… I realize that Apocalypse can alter his size and shape, but can he actually transmute the iron in his blood? If not, then he’s screwed, because it can be manipulated and falls subject to Erik’s power.
Drawing the life energy out of the Phoenix:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2629/magdrawslifeenergy8et.jpg
Fusing metallic particles to a body:
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4233/magfusesmetal13lp.jpg
Ripping apart Neo’s body:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/940/magripsapartneo7do.jpg
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Energy Generation:
Right… and this is MAGNETO we’re talking about here. He’s basically the king of energy when it comes to X-Men villains.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
* Energy Absorption:
Yeah, and the same goes for Magneto. Nothing special here.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
* Superhuman Speed:
It’s funny you mention Apocalypse’s super speed; because Erik also has superhuman speed and reflexes that get overlooked from time to time. He’s been shown to fly at mach 100 before, and has reflexes 15.5 times greater than a normal human.
His reflexes have allowed him to catch a speedblitzing Northstar right out of the sky.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-04.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-05.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-11.jpg
He’s also trapped Quicksilver going on a speed rampage in some metal like it was nothing.
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00191fw.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00205bt.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00214fn.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00225xo.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00232ox.jpg
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
* Forcefields:
😐
I shouldn’t even have to respond to this point…. But I will. 😄
Here’s Magneto taking a nuke with his force fields up like it was nothing.
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3455/magtakesamegatonbomb9cn.jpg
Here’s Magneto taking a telekinetic blast from the Phoenix.
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magtakesphoenixblast7nn.jpg
Captain Universe Spider-man’s blasts ricochet off of Magneto’s shields.
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1623/magshieldeasilydeflectscapt0fq.jpg
Plus, there’s the blast from Galactus he took…
Etc. etc. etc.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
* Concussive Blasts:
Yeah, and Magneto’s energy projection and manipulation is among the best out there.
Cyclops’ optic blasts can be manipulated by Magneto.
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrux400p273fz.jpg
He can even control SOUND.
http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classicxmen01815vi9.jpg
When Magneto first manifested his powers, he accidentally went thermonuclear and destroyed a city.
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excaliburv30903elcarinox5.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excaliburv3090405elcarinkv1.jpg
Also, an inexperienced Magneto blasted through a mountain with ease.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4888/magblastblowsthroughmountainwitheasewm1.jpg
Magneto has been shown to make…. That’s right ladies and gentleman… WORMHOLES!!!!!
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excalibur0821de3.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excalibur0822gi2.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excalibur0825xx4.jpg
Magneto has better control over lightning than even Storm does.
http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg
Magneto can tamper with peoples’ bio-electric currents in their bodies and f*ck them up that way as well. Like when he prohibited Storm from creating lightning (he’s also preventing Nightcrawler from teleporting).
http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page0203tm2.jpg
He can see force and energy on a subatomic level. He can also rearrange matter on a subatomic level.
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm212page125uq.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm212page132oz.jpg
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
TelepathyBlah blah blah, etc. etc.
So basically this is just a long-winded way of saying that Apocalypse has telepathy. Cool.
Xavier needed Jean Grey’s help in order to penetrate Magneto’s psychic defenses and only succeeded when Magneto was distracted.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2509/tbreakthroughhispsychicdefense.jpg
Magneto can jam psychic powers like he’s done to all the X-Men telepaths at once.
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5716/magelectromagneticjamspsionics.jpg
He can reflect psychic power on the person who uses it on him.
http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magreflectspsychicpowerandreve.jpg
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Telekinesis:
Great… and Magneto has shielded himself from a telekinetic blast from the Phoenix.
This is also the same Magneto who’s lifted Avalon M which is the size of a small state. 😐
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Virtual Immortality:* Superhuman Stamina:
* Retarded Aging:
* Blood of Apocalypse.
He can still be hurt and KO’d.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
* Technology Interface: Apocalypse is able to directly interface with various technologies he has at his disposal.Known Abilities: Apocalypse is a genius, a level of which humanity cannot comprehend, and has knowledge of certain areas of biology, primarily genetics, and technology that is far in advance of contemporary science and technology. This was not merely a result of his exposure to alien technology, as he was able to make significant new advances beyond the alien materials to which he was exposed.
Apocalypse’s tech would be void in this fight considering Magneto was powerful enough to send out a global electromagnetic pulse that disabled every single machine on the planet.
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3365/magcutsaswath8vm.jpg
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I realize that is a long list. But......as chikorita said, this could be a spite thread. Batdude asked for it though.
No, this isn’t a spite thread at all. Magneto hangs with the big boys on a consistent basis and has beaten the likes of Thor. Apocalypse loses this fight, sorry to tell you Trickster. 😬
Apocalypse is a versatile bastard, but I’ve never seen his powers work on a more intricate, or on a grander power level than Magneto’s. Magneto also has a broader range in terms of power.
Magneto>Apocalypse
Get over it.
Originally posted by guy222
Apoc
Right, because we all know that Magneto can only control metal. 🙄
Originally posted by Chikorita
batdude, you fanboy😄
haha😉
I’m not a fanboy at all. I’m simply one of the few here who actually knows what he’s capable of.
In short: DON’T PISS ME OFF WHEN IT COMES TO MAGNETO STUFF!!!!
Thank you. 🙂
Originally posted by ashroro
Magneto wins this. But, just to set things straight, magneto should not be able to control sound. sound energy is not even part of the electromagnetic spectrum. sound is a form of mechanical energy. The writers messed up on that one.
Fair enough, but he's also been shown to manipulate gravitons (anti-gravitational field, and Cyclops' blast), and that isn't a part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
He's living proof of the unified theory of energy where all energy is fundamentally related. He can control other forms of energy besides electromagnetic energy. 🙂
yeah, but they said he might be. How often does he show control over gravity tho? Does he have control of gravity like say Gravitron does? The writers just seem to think that just because electromagnetism is so fundamental they can use it to try to give magneto control of other forces at will, when thats not the case. Yes, he is powerful and is one of the most fearsome villians in marvel, but they try to make him too much like a silver surfer lite. He needs to be just plan magneto master of magnetism and the EM field
Originally posted by ashroro
yeah, but they said he might be. How often does he show control over gravity tho? Does he have control of gravity like say Gravitron does? The writers just seem to think that just because electromagnetism is so fundamental they can use it to try to give magneto control of other forces at will, when thats not the case. Yes, he is powerful and is one of the most fearsome villians in marvel, but they try to make him too much like a silver surfer lite. He needs to be just plan magneto master of magnetism and the EM field
Cyclops' optic blasts are made out of gravitons, and he's manipulated that before. He's also created anti-gravitational fields before.
http://img285.imageshack.us/img285/2884/magreflectspsychicpowerandreve.jpg
Originally posted by batdude123
I did not make this long-winded post for nobody to read it. 😐Let this be a lesson to those of you who underestimate Erik Lensherr. 😉
he got beat by logan(a man with metal covered bones)
APOC thats it
magneto is ok....but can't even beat hulk(who APOC owned)
can magneto even stand up to mr sinister???(real question)
Originally posted by swerve1988
he got beat by logan(a man with metal covered bones)
APOC thats itmagneto is ok....but can't even beat hulk(who APOC owned)
can magneto even stand up to mr sinister???(real question)
😆
Right, he got owned by Logan.
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magnetoripslogansadamantiumoutqy9.jpg
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7186154
That sure does look like he got owned right there!!! 🙄
Magneto can't beat the Hulk? Um... of course he can. The Hulk radiates gamma radiation, which is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum. Hulk would be as susceptible to Magneto's power as Logan.
If you hop off of Apoc's sack for two seconds, you'll realize that Magneto is indeed superior to him. 😉
He can't actually control gravity like that. he indirectly caused the gravitional field to reverse by generating enough power. He didn't manipulate gravitons like how Gravitons does. Also, do you know how much power and energy it would take just to do what Magneto did?!!!! It takes a lot. Lets just say that Magneto should not be doing what he did. The writers just wanted to add more powers to his character. Whenever Magneto starts manipulating gravitons like Gravitron does, then we can say that it is within his power set.
Also, couldn't we say that magneto magnetically levitated those young mutants? Writers are not the most scientific lot. Magnetic levitation occurs when the magnetic field generates enough magnetic force to the extent that the magnetic force is effectivly more than the gravitational force. Maybe the writers meant that.
Originally posted by ashroro
He can't actually control gravity like that. he indirectly caused the gravitional field to reverse by generating enough power. He didn't manipulate gravitons like how Gravitons does. Also, do you know how much power and energy it would take just to do what Magneto did?!!!! It takes a lot. Lets just say that Magneto should not be doing what he did. The writers just wanted to add more powers to his character. Whenever Magneto starts manipulating gravitons like Gravitron does, then we can say that it is within his power set.
Um... I just showed you a scan earlier that depicted Magneto manipulating Cyclops' optic blast... and his blast is made out of gravitons.
And Marvel's bio of him seems to agree with me.
"He can manipulate gravitons to create an anti-gravity field, and does so whenever he levitates a non-magnetic object. Hence, Magneto may be living proof of the long-sought Unified Field Theory that all forms of energy are related."
Originally posted by batdude123
Right, and Magneto has about the same amount, if not, more powers than Apocalypse does. His power of electromagnetic energy manipulation grants him a seemingly endless array of powers.Whoopity friggin’ doo. Magneto has broken Hercules’ bear hug he had on him with his own strength. He’s also stood toe to toe with Colossus, and has taken a full shot from Namor without damage. What makes you think Apocalypse’s strength is going to make the slightest bit of difference in this fight?
Let’s also mention the fact that Magneto’s force fields have taken a shot from She Hulk and Thor wielding Mjolnir at the same time. Magneto laughed it off stating mere physical force couldn’t penetrate his shields.
http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg
Yeah, and the same goes for Magneto as well.
And all of this means next to nothing when your body is being manipulated on a subatomic level. Magneto either draws his life energy out, or fuses a large amount of metallic particles to his body, or rips his blood out, or gives him an aneurysm, or a stroke, etc. etc.
Tell me something… I realize that Apocalypse can alter his size and shape, but can he actually transmute the iron in his blood? If not, then he’s screwed, because it can be manipulated and falls subject to Erik’s power.
Drawing the life energy out of the Phoenix:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2629/magdrawslifeenergy8et.jpgFusing metallic particles to a body:
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4233/magfusesmetal13lp.jpgRipping apart Neo’s body:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/940/magripsapartneo7do.jpgRight… and this is MAGNETO we’re talking about here. He’s basically the king of energy when it comes to X-Men villains.
Yeah, and the same goes for Magneto. Nothing special here.
It’s funny you mention Apocalypse’s super speed; because Erik also has superhuman speed and reflexes that get overlooked from time to time. He’s been shown to fly at mach 100 before, and has reflexes 15.5 times greater than a normal human.
His reflexes have allowed him to catch a speedblitzing Northstar right out of the sky.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-04.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-05.jpg
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/X-Men113-11.jpgHe’s also trapped Quicksilver going on a speed rampage in some metal like it was nothing.
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00191fw.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00205bt.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00214fn.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00225xo.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan00232ox.jpg😐
I shouldn’t even have to respond to this point…. But I will. 😄
Here’s Magneto taking a nuke with his force fields up like it was nothing.
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3455/magtakesamegatonbomb9cn.jpg
Here’s Magneto taking a telekinetic blast from the Phoenix.
http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magtakesphoenixblast7nn.jpg
Captain Universe Spider-man’s blasts ricochet off of Magneto’s shields.
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1623/magshieldeasilydeflectscapt0fq.jpg
Plus, there’s the blast from Galactus he took…
Etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, and Magneto’s energy projection and manipulation is among the best out there.
Cyclops’ optic blasts can be manipulated by Magneto.
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrux400p273fz.jpg
He can even control SOUND.
http://img49.imageshack.us/my.php?image=classicxmen01815vi9.jpg
When Magneto first manifested his powers, he accidentally went thermonuclear and destroyed a city.
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excaliburv30903elcarinox5.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excaliburv3090405elcarinkv1.jpgAlso, an inexperienced Magneto blasted through a mountain with ease.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4888/magblastblowsthroughmountainwitheasewm1.jpg
Magneto has been shown to make…. That’s right ladies and gentleman… WORMHOLES!!!!!
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excalibur0821de3.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excalibur0822gi2.jpg
http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excalibur0825xx4.jpgMagneto has better control over lightning than even Storm does.
http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg
Magneto can tamper with peoples’ bio-electric currents in their bodies and f*ck them up that way as well. Like when he prohibited Storm from creating lightning (he’s also preventing Nightcrawler from teleporting).
http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page0203tm2.jpg
He can see force and energy on a subatomic level. He can also rearrange matter on a subatomic level.
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm212page125uq.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm212page132oz.jpgSo basically this is just a long-winded way of saying that Apocalypse has telepathy. Cool.
Xavier needed Jean Grey’s help in order to penetrate Magneto’s psychic defenses and only succeeded when Magneto was distracted.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2509/tbreakthroughhispsychicdefense.jpg
Magneto can jam psychic powers like he’s done to all the X-Men telepaths at once.
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5716/magelectromagneticjamspsionics.jpg
He can reflect psychic power on the person who uses it on him.
http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magreflectspsychicpowerandreve.jpg
Great… and Magneto has shielded himself from a telekinetic blast from the Phoenix.
This is also the same Magneto who’s lifted Avalon M which is the size of a small state. 😐
He can still be hurt and KO’d.
Apocalypse’s tech would be void in this fight considering Magneto was powerful enough to send out a global electromagnetic pulse that disabled every single machine on the planet.
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3365/magcutsaswath8vm.jpg
No, this isn’t a spite thread at all. Magneto hangs with the big boys on a consistent basis and has beaten the likes of Thor. Apocalypse loses this fight, sorry to tell you Trickster. 😬
Apocalypse is a versatile bastard, but I’ve never seen his powers work on a more intricate, or on a grander power level than Magneto’s. Magneto also has a broader range in terms of power.
Magneto>Apocalypse
Get over it.
Right, because we all know that Magneto can only control metal. 🙄
I’m not a fanboy at all. I’m simply one of the few here who actually knows what he’s capable of.
In short: DON’T PISS ME OFF WHEN IT COMES TO MAGNETO STUFF!!!!
Thank you. 🙂
Best. Post. EVER! I now have all that stuff saved. It's so amazing. Though I already know Mags wins in a curbstomp against Apoc, that made it even more so. I'm going to do my happy dance! 💃
Originally posted by batdude123
Um... I just showed you a scan earlier that depicted Magneto manipulating Cyclops' optic blast... and his blast is made out of gravitons.And Marvel's bio of him seems to agree with me.
"He can manipulate gravitons to create an anti-gravity field, and does so whenever he levitates a non-magnetic object. Hence, Magneto may be living proof of the long-sought Unified Field Theory that all forms of energy are related."
I have a question. Would you mind if I used that stuff on a different forums as a Magneto Respect Thread?
Thats the thing tho, he doesn't use it to the extent gravitron does. Why doesn't he use more powerful gravity based attacks? If the bio is true, then he should be crushing people in gravitional force fields. Why doesn't he? Since writers give him control over gravitons to, why not use it to its fullest. Like I said, Magneto would merc Apoc, but they don't need to give him extra powers. Stay the Master of Magnetism, not gravity, sound, nuclear, kinetic, mechanical, and chemical energy.
Originally posted by demigawd
The problem is that Apoc's control over his atomic structure isn't enough to hold himself together against Magneto's power over sub-atomic components. Magneto can just will Apoc to discorporate...and he does. There's nothing Apoc can do to stop it.
Magneto does not have this kind of power. He is no Sersi. Magneto has only defeated Poccy because Apocalypse's powers are ignored. He can rechannel energy like Bishop, he has a near-indestructable body with extreme class 100 strength, control over his body at the atomic level, etc. Maybe Magneto could pull this on Kitty if she were intangible as the bonds that hold her body together at such levels are probably substantially weaken in this state and makes it easier for him to do something like this, but certainly not to a normal person or a near-indestructable guys like Poccy. Show me where Magneto has even taken apart somebody on this level where the issue states it is so and the guy not be intangible or something. I have seen Magneto have to strain VERY hard just to pull atoms together to create a comb for Wasp.
I don't see how Magneto can win this fight when the other guy is a psi of the highest order, has extreme class 100 strength, very difficult to hurt, can grow in stature to enormous proportions, absorb and rechannel energy, fly, etc.
