Originally posted by Quiero Mota
🤨Ok.....now you're just starting to sound like a nutcase.
Oh...really? Well let me clue you in.
1 Peter 4:14
If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified.
Matthew 5:11-13
“Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven , for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Luke 6:22-24
Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you,
And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
For the Son of Man’s sake.
Rejoice in that day and leap for joy!
For indeed your reward is great in heaven,
For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.
2 Corinthians 4:17
For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory,
1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.
That should vindicate and clarify my outlook on persecution.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Oh...really? Well let me clue you in.[B]1 Peter 4:14
If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified.Matthew 5:11-13
“Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven , for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.Luke 6:22-24
Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you,
And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
For the Son of Man’s sake.
Rejoice in that day and leap for joy!
For indeed your reward is great in heaven,
For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.2 Corinthians 4:17
For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory,1 Peter 4:16
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Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.
Ah, after reading that I understand and agree with everything you are saying. My apologies, rays of righteous judgement will fall, oh lord, penetrate me.
Now, you see what Quiero has done there? That's worthy of respect, because even if I don't agree with anything he thinks at all, if it is clear that some thought or reason has gone into a view, it is worthy of respect. If it is clear that you are not going to slavishly follow something without any question or evidence of self-wll, then people can at least stand up and listen.
If religion DOES survive, it will be because of this sort of flexibility, and indeed in many places huge changes in this area, a willingness to engage and debate rather than just state categorically, has already made it more survivable than it was.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Tell me about it.I guess it makes sense; I'm not a redneck from Arkansas, I'm Chicano from Arizona.
bwt: My love for guns goes back to my rather "dubious" past.
Boy, you like guns a lot, you keep bringing them up for no reason. I mourn the person who breaks into your house.
Originally posted by BackFire
Homosexuality is a key part of what the person is, that's like saying I don't hate black people, only the color of their skin. It's no less terrible or mean spirited.You referenced the bible to show what you felt, these attempts of hiding behind the bible so you don't have to take responsibility for your beliefs is beyond pathetic, it's so sad it makes me smile.
You obviously insist on reiterating accusations that I have clearly explained. I will not engage you in conversation any longer until you refrain from doing so.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Oh...really? Well let me clue you in.[B]1 Peter 4:14
If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified.Matthew 5:11-13
“Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven , for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.Luke 6:22-24
Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you,
And revile you, and cast out your name as evil,
For the Son of Man’s sake.
Rejoice in that day and leap for joy!
For indeed your reward is great in heaven,
For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets.2 Corinthians 4:17
For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory,1 Peter 4:16
Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.That should vindicate and clarify my outlook on persecution. [/B]
Yeah, I've read the Bible too. What's your point. And if you ever said that too my face, I'd whoop your ass.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Now?
Quoting the Bible is one thing, acting like he's God himself is a whole nother matter.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Now, you see what Quiero has done there? That's worthy of respect, because even if I don't agree with anything he thinks at all, if it is clear that some thought or reason has gone into a view, it is worthy of respect. If it is clear that you are not going to slavishly follow something without any question or evidence of self-wll, then people can at least stand up and listen.If religion DOES survive, it will be because of this sort of flexibility, and indeed in many places huge changes in this area, a willingness to engage and debate rather than just state categorically, has already made it more survivable than it was.
Religion will be exterminated by Jesus Christ. Only His Kingdom will prevail and remain. A Kingdom wherein dwells righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yeah, I've read the Bible too. What's your point. And if you ever said that too my face, I'd whoop your ass.Quoting the Bible is one thing, acting like he's God himself is a whole nother matter.
And you are Catholic correct? I am a Christian, and I follow Jesus Christ. I have never once threatened to do you bodily harm. You are following the wrong person.
Please, if it's a "Kingdom" filled with people with the same mentality as you, I doubt any of the sane population would want to be there.
Originally posted by UshgarakDoes that mean he can be "exterminated" as a sock and the Kingdom of KMC's religion forum can return to being somewhat interesting.
Uh oh... we're onto extermination now.Hey! JIA does sound remarkably like a Dalek, now I think about it.