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Guys, she's obviously very young. Her spelling, grammar, and line of arguementation all point to a person of low maturity and thus young age.

It's like explaining linear equations to a third-grader...or trying to make a third-grader admit that he/she is wrong.

It just won't happen...

Originally posted by Draco69
Guys, she's obviously very young. Her spelling, grammar, and line of arguementation all point to a person of low maturity and thus young age.

It's like explaining linear equations to a third-grader...or trying to make a third-grader admit that he/she is wrong.

It just won't happen...

Although to be fair I can't remember the last time I met a third grader with such an opinionated world view on a subject they know so little about. More like trying to tach linear equations to a rock.

Maybe it is an Australian thing, not having opinionated kids.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Although to be fair I can't remember the last time I met a third grader with such an opinionated world view on a subject they know so little about. More like trying to tach linear equations to a rock.

Maybe it is an Australian thing, not having opinionated kids.

I met a 9 year old who thought that sharks were the deadliest species on Earth. I tried to tell him that wasn't true with facts, logic and even pictures but he just went "lalalalalala" mode on him.

The "Lalalalala" Defense is nearly indestructible....

Originally posted by Draco69
I met a 9 year old who thought that sharks were the deadliest species on Earth. I tried to tell him that wasn't true with facts, logic and even pictures but he just went "lalalalalala" mode on him.

The "Lalalalala" Defense is nearly indestructible....

Even worse is the "nah, nah" one. It is horrible. Didn't encounter it till towards the end of high school. Where the argument reaches the point where they have thoroughly exhausted whatever meager ammunition they might have had, but they aren't prepared to admit that they may have been wrong. Just "nah, that's not right, nah, your wrong"

Then of course there is the ultra patronising "Well, it is clear no one will be proved wrong here today, so I suggest we move on" - after, in terms of a debate, they have been faced with matters they are incapable of arguing against.

As seen here "You don't know for sure, nobody does, which means what I am saying is right"

Seems unnatural somehow. Kids should be hungry for knowledge. It is always disturbing to think of ones already locked into a faulty view on something (a view that often derives from parents)

Regardless of her age...opinions in this world are not a right. You need to back up what you say.

Its my opinon that its better for children to learn in a real world than in a fake one. We don't need to tolerate her opinions simply because of her age.

Originally posted by Alliance
Regardless of her age...opinions in this world are not a right. You need to back up what you say.

Its my opinon that its better for children to learn in a real world than in a fake one. We don't need to tolerate her opinions simply because of her age.

Indeed - and besides, there comes a time where by rights a child should be learning, especially when presented with perfectly understandable information.

It doesn't bode weill when it goes in one ear gets lost in the great empty space then emerge our the other.

She's 15/16. She should be able to realize what an argument is. Then again, most people don't know.

Originally posted by Alliance
She's 15/16. She should be able to realize what an argument is. Then again, most people don't know.

And 15/16 isn't realy that young anyway. Hell, not far of and she has the power to vote and drive a car!

(Since people thought it strange that I got all excited when I was turning 18 because my birthday would fell just before a federal election. Thta's right, I didn't care about going to pubs, but rather the fact I would get to vote.)

Thats why the ability to vote should depend on two things...military service and education.

Military service? No. Education? Debatable. Depends how far you're talking about taking it.

Why no? If you're not willing to defend your nation and to serve it, why should you have any choice in its future?

If you're not a veterinarian, why should you have any choice in what your dog eats?

It's the same thought process. Just because someone doesn't join the military doesn't mean they don't love the country, mean that their opinion is invalid, or that they have any less of a right to decide who makes the laws they have to abide by.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
And 15/16 isn't realy that young anyway. Hell, not far of and she has the power to vote and drive a car!

(Since people thought it strange that I got all excited when I was turning 18 because my birthday would fell just before a federal election. Thta's right, I didn't care about going to pubs, but rather the fact I would get to vote.)

I am fifteen and I can't vote till I am eighteen in the states anyway.Not be able to drive till I am sixteen.Can't wait.Anyway why are we geting off topic again?jm 😕

Originally posted by Alliance
Why no? If you're not willing to defend your nation and to serve it, why should you have any choice in its future?

Taxes seem to be reason enough for me.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Anyway why are we geting off topic again?jm 😕

Because you cant make an argument.

Originally posted by Kinneary
If you're not a veterinarian, why should you have any choice in what your dog eats?

It's the same thought process. Just because someone doesn't join the military doesn't mean they don't love the country, mean that their opinion is invalid, or that they have any less of a right to decide who makes the laws they have to abide by.

No, its not really the same thought process. Vetrinarians develop dog food, and you pick one of a couple pre-prescribed bags fo dogfood.

Why should someone who has served their country be treated equally with someone who hasnt? I think its clear that if you have served, you have more of a right to have a say than anyone else. If you loved your nation so much, why ddin't that person serve?

Originally posted by Eis
Taxes seem to be reason enough for me.

Ahh...a somewhat logical argument. But its more like you are paying for the protection of the county, not so much for a right to participate.

Originally posted by Alliance

Ahh...a somewhat logical argument. But its more like you are paying for the protection of the county, not so much for a right to participate. [/B]

You're military argument is severely flawed, not everyone is capable of being in the military. Some people are either mentally incapable and/or physically incapable of serving, but that doesn't mean they cannot be patriots. Taxes are the fuel of the military, without the masses of non-military shmoo's out there paying taxes, no military would exist. In my opinion, if you're a citizen and you pay taxes,you should be allowed to vote.

I am with you on the education part though, far to many uneducated people out there who's vote can be bought with a single empty bias promise. Just not sure how the education standard would be set.

Sorry to take the debate way off track people... Back to Gods & Gays...

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I am fifteen and I can't vote till I am eighteen in the states anyway.Not be able to drive till I am sixteen.Can't wait.Anyway why are we geting off topic again?jm 😕

What they are trying to say is that you are young, immature, ignorant, and stupid. I happen to agree ✅

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I know.

How about you, Urizen. Can you tell me the exact size of a 1964 Mustang's engine or who the current World Heavyweight Boxing champion is? Probably not, because you're bi.

Can you tell me what year women were granted the right to vote in the United States ? Can you also tell me who was the prime political figure who pushed for this change?

Probably not, because you're straight 😉

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
She's right though. Many doc's think they know everything and just like to hear themselves talk.

Like Dr. Laura for example....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Can you tell me what year women were granted the right to vote in the United States ? Can you also tell me who was the prime political figure who pushed for this change?

Probably not, because you're straight 😉

Ohh, Ohh. I know I know. Well, I know what year. But there were a lot of important figures in the women's sufferage movement.