On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Started by Alliance274 pages

Most of us have tried, but she never provides arguments back. The best she's done (and by best I mean only thing she's done) is say that Dr. Laura (a radio personality) said so.

Since then, she has never provided any points besides "I'm just right" and "I have an opinion." Yet, she continues to post.

However, that doesn't justify spelling attacks.

Nor does it prove that you or anyone else had a good answear to any of the questions I had given you.So I guess in a way we are both even.jm

Its not even at all, we've consitantly provided rational reasons why your opinion is incorrect. Yet, you never respond with any criticism of our arguemnts.

This is a one-sided game ADJ, and you're loosing. If you don't wan't to debate, thats fine, but then don't state your opinons.

You should be stating why you think it is not a sin being gay and that is all not caring what others think or why they are againt it.jm

I personally have tried to actually debate it with you.

If you think the sky is made of gumdrops, I have a problem with that, because its clearly not.

I will then provide unbaised facts, as I have, to show that the sky is indeed made of air and water.

There is no reason to be against gay marriage.

This forum is for debate, not to shout "I HAVE AN OPINON," especially when that opinon is not based on any logic or fact. Peopel will attack your position, regardless of what it is. If you want to be credible, you need to defend it.

If you'd like to debate, I'd be happy too, but it needs to be a debate using real evidence to back up your opinon.

I am debating reather you think I am or not.I think that a man and a woman should be married and not the same sex it is a sin like I said and is unature.JM

Then did you read my previous posts when we went tyhrough thsi exercise the first time? Or just ignore them?

Read them.jm got to go through.see yea.walkman

Ok, well, you didn't debate them. Therefore, you're not debating.

Therefore you are not debating.jm

Homosexuality is exhibited across the animal kingdom.
Homosexuality has been shown to have some genetic component and has been shown not to be a choice.

It is far from unnatural.

According to the Bible, shaving is a sin, yet I don't know any Christian male or female who does not shave. Its also a sin to approach the alter of god with poor eyesight. I know many Christians with contacts or glasses who approach their altar. Killing is a mortal sin, yet I know Christians who have killed people.

Sin is interpretation. The defenition of sin has changed thorugh history. They will change again. Many Christian churchas are fine with homosexuality and embrace their brothers.

This argument is not a religious debate, its a legal debate. The constituition clearly states that all men are created equal and are given certain rights as defined by government. Marriage is among these rights as decided by the supreme court/constitution. Homosexuals are denied rights. That is illegal.

The constitution also garuntees the freedom of religion and no group of people is to be restrained by anothers religoius views.

If you want a historical exampel of when this same thing has happened before, look at interractial marriages in the US. Christians said that it was "unnatural" and "a sin" and they used biblical arguemtns to back up theirs. They we're wrong then, just as you are wrong now.

Oh, come on. Do you actually believe what you just wrote, or am I going to have to make a thread about the Old Testament's laws?

Its well known to people on this forum that you are also a Christian fundamentalist. Just one with a differing interpretation.

However, anyone who disagress with you is just some fool who misinterprets the Bible because only your interpretation is correct.

Originally posted by Alliance
Its well known to people on this forum that you are also a Christian fundamentalist. Just one with a differing interpretation.

However, anyone who disagress with you is just some fool who misinterprets the Bible because only your interpretation is correct.


I'm a Christian evangelical, and, yes, a person who disagrees with my interpretation is incorrect.

Originally posted by FeceMan
a person who disagrees with my interpretation is incorrect.

Exactly why your interpretation is narrowminded, unproductive, and detrimental to society.

Originally posted by Alliance
Exactly why your interpretation is narrowminded, unproductive, and detrimental to society.

*Sighs.*

When was the last time your opinions might have been wrong? When was the last time you considered the possibility that Christianity might be correct? When was the last time you stepped outside of your atheist bubble of anti-Christianity, pro-everything-else and took the time to consider anything that I've actually written?

There is one correct interpretation of the Bible. The only correct interpretation of the Bible is the one Yahweh Elohim intended when He gave His word to us thousands of years ago. Any viewpoint that deviates from His word is wrong when argued from a Christian perspective--and that's that. There is no middle ground. There is no "well, that doesn't really apply today." What I do is try to understand the correct interpretation of the Bible not as I'd like to see it, but as it is.

Does that mean my beliefs are all right? Possibly not to YHVH. But, are they right to me from what I've learned from the Bible? Yes. Scripture supports them, giving them weight--and that's the best I can do. When someone blatantly disregards or manipulates Scripture in an attempt to support his or her misguided beliefs, that person is wrong.

Originally posted by FeceMan
*Sighs.*

When was the last time your opinions might have been wrong? When was the last time you considered the possibility that Christianity might be correct? When was the last time you stepped outside of your atheist bubble of anti-Christianity, pro-everything-else and took the time to consider anything that I've actually written?

There is one correct interpretation of the Bible. The only correct interpretation of the Bible is the one Yahweh Elohim intended when He gave His word to us thousands of years ago. Any viewpoint that deviates from His word is wrong when argued from a Christian perspective--and that's that. There is no middle ground. There is no "well, that doesn't really apply today." What I do is try to understand the correct interpretation of the Bible not as I'd like to see it, but as it is.

Does that mean my beliefs are all right? Possibly not to YHVH. But, are they right to me from what I've learned from the Bible? Yes. Scripture supports them, giving them weight--and that's the best I can do. When someone blatantly disregards or manipulates Scripture in an attempt to support his or her misguided beliefs, that person is wrong.

When was the last time you considered the possibility you were wrong? Never? Then you narrowminded.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I'm a Christian evangelical, and, yes, a person who disagrees with my interpretation is incorrect.

That is what deems you a fool...

A person who truly beleives they know everything that is true, and is 100% convinced of thier own infallibility in knowledge.

Originally posted by dani_california
When was the last time you considered the possibility you were wrong? Never? Then you narrowminded.

Silly girl, I considered myself wrong when I changed my beliefs on homosexuality. Now, if you could perhaps grow an IQ in the double digits and step out of the way so Alliance can answer, it would be much appreciated.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That is what deems you a fool...

A person who truly beleives they know everything that is true, and is 100% convinced of thier own infallibility in knowledge.


I guess I'm quite the wise man, eh?

Originally posted by FeceMan
I guess I'm quite the wise man, eh?

You think you know all that is truth...you said that those who disagree with your intepretation are in fact, incorrect.

So No..