On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Started by Alliance274 pages
Originally posted by Nellinator
Exactly. Marriage should be seperated from the state and handed over for religions to deal with. I also disagree with there being economical benefits in marriage (other than those related to combined costs of living).

Ok well thats an entirely different posistion then.

But if there are no economic benefits...there should be NONE.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Apollo. I'm pretty sure he's gay.

Argh.

Apollo is not gay.....he is the Jesus before there was a Jesus.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Apollo is not gay.....he is the Jesus before there was a Jesus.

No he's not.

Yes Jesus was based on Apollo. Amongst others.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yes Jesus was based on Apollo. Amongst others.

Or Jesus is the fulfillment of the OT prophecies that were undoubtedly uninfluenced by the Greeks. Isaiah in the passages of the suffering servant gives a perfect description of Jesus. I also fail to see any real connection between them.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No he's not.

Hello... Sun disk?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Or Jesus is the fulfillment of the OT prophecies that were undoubtedly uninfluenced by the Greeks. Isaiah in the passages of the suffering servant gives a perfect description of Jesus. I also fail to see any real connection between them.

I'd just say bullshit, but which prophesis were those again?

Maybe this "failure to see" explains a lot ot things.

Originally posted by Alliance
Hello... Sun disk?

I'd just say bullshit, but which prophesis were those again?

Maybe this "failure to see" explains a lot ot things.


I still fail to see the relevance of Apollo to Jesus. Jesus was not the sun disk. However, that does make Apollo comparable to Aten.

Isaiah 52:13 to 53:12.
It such an accruate description of Jesus that some Jewish sects have taken in out of the Bible.

Psalm 16:10-11
Psalm 22:7-8
Psalm 78:1-3
Micah 5:2
Zechariah 12:10
Zechariah 13:1-7

These are some that I remember that are fairly obvious and acknowledged by the Jews as being Messianic prophecies.

Originally posted by Alliance
Hello... Sun disk?

The sun disk is from Pharonic Egyptian.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Apollo. I'm pretty sure he's gay.

No he wasn't. He was often just as heterosexually promiscuous as other Greek Gods.

There is a myth involving how a young women tricked him into giving her the ability to see the future and past - in return she was meant to sleep with him. She didn't, so he made it so that while se could see what had happened, and what would happen no one would believe her. So she was trapped with a sight she couldn't use and considered mad as a result.

You're reffering to Cassandra.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Exactly. Marriage should be seperated from the state and handed over for religions to deal with. I also disagree with there being economical benefits in marriage (other than those related to combined costs of living).

wow, that's retarded.

also, you disagree with the monetary benefits of marriage...."EXCEPT"? There is no "except". There is, or there is not.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Apollo. I'm pretty sure he's gay.

No, he had the hots for a mortal chick. I can't remember her name though.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I still fail to see the relevance of Apollo to Jesus. Jesus was not the sun disk. However, that does make Apollo comparable to Aten.

Isaiah 52:13 to 53:12.
It such an accruate description of Jesus that some Jewish sects have taken in out of the Bible.

Psalm 16:10-11
Psalm 22:7-8
Psalm 78:1-3
Micah 5:2
Zechariah 12:10
Zechariah 13:1-7

These are some that I remember that are fairly obvious and acknowledged by the Jews as being Messianic prophecies.

As soon as you post some links to greek mythology, you might be taken seriously. But, as it is, you only post biblical passages. And while I'm sure those aren't self serving, I doubt they would reveal that the mythological Jesus was based on an amalgam of other historically religious figures.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You're reffering to Cassandra.

Indeed I am.

And there was the case, as Ovid put forward, about the class of rational mind over emmitonal heart where "cupid" got back at Apollo by making him fall in love with a girl who was incapable of loving him back (mainly as Cupid had used his abilities to make Apollo repulsive to here.)

I have never seen anything to suggest Apollo is gay. Bisexual would even be a struggle to prove.

No, he had the hots for a mortal chick. I can't remember her name though.

Daphne if I'm not mistaken, due to the above mentioned act by Cupid. Of course in Ovid's version she gets turned into a tree and has Apollo making out with it - from here the laurel wreath was derived.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Bisexual would even be a struggle to prove.

Most likely because he never existed.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Most likely because he never existed.

True, but in literative terms it would be hard to claim he was bisexual (even though the Greeks would have been relativly comfortable with the idea he was.)

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
I have never seen anything to suggest Apollo is gay. Bisexual would even be a struggle to prove.

You're right. My bad, homes. I'm confusing him with another Greek god I can't think of.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
True, but in literative terms it would be hard to claim he was bisexual (even though the Greeks would have been relativly comfortable with the idea he was.)

way to suck the life out of a sarcastic comment.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You're right. My bad, homes. I'm confusing him with another Greek god I can't think of.

I assume you've seen teh "why can't I think of nothing" thread.

Yeah, I actually posted in it.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
wow, that's retarded.

also, you disagree with the monetary benefits of marriage...."EXCEPT"? There is no "except". There is, or there is not.

As soon as you post some links to greek mythology, you might be taken seriously. But, as it is, you only post biblical passages. And while I'm sure those aren't self serving, I doubt they would reveal that the mythological Jesus was based on an amalgam of other historically religious figures.


The exception was not a government related one. Its just cheaper to live with someone that's all I meant. Cheaper rent because its split, buying food in bigger bulk... I should have just left out the stuff in the brackets.

OT prophecies were written between 1200 and 600 years before Christ was born. Jesus is placed solely on these. That is the whole premise of Jesus being able to claim himself as the Messiah. If Jesus was to influenced by mythology it would have happened in the Hellenic culture spread around 300BC, but the prophecies were already written before this influence.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Yeah, I actually posted in it.

yeah, but the answer is: "because I'm not buddhist"