Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
By default we are each born heterosexual (this is the norm). [B]God does not have to make anyone heterosexual as such because He has alreay built that natural principle or bent into the human race.Therefore (and as I already stated in the previous post), a person must go against this natural bent or principle. Thus, a person must choose to be a homosexual. [/B]
Homosexuality is natural and found in nature. Homosexuality is a population safety valve. As a population grows, so does the % of homosexuals. This increase will decrease the population and the % goes back down. It is completely natural.
Originally posted by ThePittman
Again you gloss over the post, what about the ones that I have posted which you have not answered. If God made someone with the hormones of a woman and the outside of a man what "choice" do they have? 👆
I see what your problem is ThePittman: you continue to subscribe to and believe an assumption that is false. You presume that God is responsible for all of the problems that people are born with, including the choices that they make. Let me illustrate. Just because a person is born with down syndrome, autism, retardation, blindness, or is a hermaphrodite, etc. that does not mean that God created them that way. Those are genetic defects, aberrations, or other pathologies that exist in the human race. But you are incorrect in assuming that God had anything to do with those conditions because He did not. Some people are born missing certain limbs, but again that is not God's fault or doing. People are simply the victims of either hereditary flaws or defects or their parents did something to induce that condition (such as consuming alcohol or using drugs during pregnancy.
In short, don't blame God for other people's physical or physiological aberrations. God does not create disorder. However, homosexuality is not a genetic issue it is a matter of choice.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God didn't make anyone a homosexual, that person chose to become a homosexual.
Oh God! Again with this crap!
Answer me this, why would someone "choose" to be homosexual when throughout history they've been nothing but persectued? And please dont answer me with bible quotes.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I see what your problem is ThePittman: you continue to subscribe to and believe an assumption that is false. You presume that God is responsible for all of the problems that people are born with, including the choices that they make. Let me illustrate. Just because a person is born with down syndrome, autism, retardation, blindness, or is a hermaphrodite, etc. that does not mean that God created them that way. Those are genetic defects, aberrations, or other pathologies that exist in the human race. But you are incorrect in assuming that God had anything to do with those conditions because He did not. Some people are born missing certain limbs, but again that is not God's fault or doing. People are simply the victims of either hereditary flaws or defects or their parents did something to induce that condition (such as consuming alcohol or using drugs during pregnancy.In short, don't blame God for other people's physical or physiological aberrations. God does not create disorder. However, homosexuality is not a genetic issue it is a matter of choice.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveOK, so again God would already know that they were going to be born with that "defect" but that is not what I'm talking about. What about the 5% or the population that can't be classified as a male or female? What about the the "man" that has the outside but the hormones of a female, do you really think that they have a choice? If they have sex with men that is what their hormones tell "him" to do, but if "he" has sex with a female then "he" is telling himself that "he" is gay.
I see what your problem is ThePittman: you continue to subscribe to and believe an assumption that is false. You presume that God is responsible for all of the problems that people are born with, including the choices that they make. Let me illustrate. Just because a person is born with down syndrome, autism, retardation, blindness, or is a hermaphrodite, etc. that does not mean that God created them that way. Those are genetic defects, aberrations, or other pathologies that exist in the human race. But you are incorrect in assuming that God had anything to do with those conditions because He did not. Some people are born missing certain limbs, but again that is not God's fault or doing. People are simply the victims of either hereditary flaws or defects or their parents did something to induce that condition (such as consuming alcohol or using drugs during pregnancy.In short, don't blame God for other people's physical or physiological aberrations. God does not create disorder. However, homosexuality is not a genetic issue it is a matter of choice.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonI know but this has gone off the topic a long time ago. 😉
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=374847&from=thread&pagenumber=221#post9032976
However I'm more talking about transgender and hermaphrodites then homosexuality.
Originally posted by Crimson Phoenix
Oh God! Again with this crap!Answer me this, why would someone "choose" to be homosexual when throughout history they've been nothing but persectued? And please dont answer me with bible quotes.
Why would someone choose to dye their hair purple or dress gothically when historically they have also been regarded as strange and the victims of persecution?
People do what they do regardless of the consequences.
Hey, why would I make threads and posts on this forum when I have been subjected to all kinds of abuse and yet I am still going like the energizer rabbit? We do what we do regardless of the consequences.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why would someone choose to dye their hair purple or dress gothically when historically they have also been regarded as strange and the victims of persecution?People do what they do regardless of the consequences.
Hey, why would I make threads and posts on this forum when I have been subjected to all kinds of abuse and yet I am still going like the energizer rabbit? We do what we do regardless of the consequences.
Because they havent...what the hell are you talking about? goths (or todays modern goths) havent been persecuted, and "historically" they have been around for a few decades.
The reason people abuse u is because of your intolerant views. I have nothing against your veiws on jesus, but your inability to look at other peoples point of view is quite disturbing