On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Started by debbiejo274 pages

Originally posted by Bardock42
Can't be sure, but what I seem to have observed are not implying it.
But I have observed it, so which is true?

Originally posted by debbiejo
But I have observed it, so which is true?

Where have you observed it? Are you maybe kidding yourself?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Where have you observed it? Are you maybe kidding yourself?
And you have not been observant??

Originally posted by debbiejo
Are you making fun of me?? 🙄

I guess I just don't agree.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm

Some emotions do more harm then good.........It's your intention with the emotion that makes the difference.

I'm not making fun of you, I'm just commenting on the often narrow obeservations of those who think only positive emotions are beneficial.

Masaru Emoto is a crackpot and honestly I don't find much validity in his study. Granted, its difficult to gauge a scientific study from a pop news piece, but generally heres my interpretation.

Quotes like thisshow many things. "Water from pristine mountain streams and springs show the beautifully formed geometric designs in their crystalline patterns. Polluted and toxic water from industrial and populated areas and stagnated water from water pipes and storage dams show definitively distorted and randomly formed crystalline structures."

Any person who knows anything about water know that poluted water has other compounds in it, therefore when freezing it the crystal structure is interrupted, casign a breakdown.

These water droplets are randomly selected, frozen down under unnamed conditions, there are so many variables here, the one that makes the least sense, (some sort of etherial emotion connection) is the one attributed to this. One principle: Occam's Razor.

Besides, even if you don't buy my argument on this, were talking about emotions on humans, not water. Humans and water are very different study systems, especially mentally and emotionally, which is what is most pertenant here.

I believe that we should embrace all aspects of being humans and intelingetly apply all the gifts given to us. Read Hermann Hesse's Demian. Its only 245 pages and goes into a lot of my position. Hesse is brilliant and its a great read.

If you want to debate and exchange thoughts on a certain topic, then please feel free to start a new thread in the appropriate forum.

Yeah we went WAYYYYY OFFFFF there lol

first i must say. HOW DARE YOU PEOPLE.

people who honestly think that being gay is a sin have no brains! you people are the ones going to hell. God's word is to love others. The God i worship tell me to love others, no matter what, and he will love me back and will show me heaven.

Being gay is as natural as being left handed. It's a proven fact! look it up. It's not a choice or a lifestyle. it's in our genes that we were BORN WITH. you might not relise your gay until your about 13 (around puberty) thats when i found out. not all genes kick in right when your born. like most diseases, like i'm also type 1 diabetic (not some fat lard on a couch. i was born with it..i'm actually rather skinny) but i didn't get it until i was 13 and a half.

If you have somthing against gays, your going to hell. you are judgeing a WHOLE GROUP of people. Which is against God's law.

I'm going back to the left hand thing. it's actually a very good example. Being left handed is in your genes also. Sure, theres more right handed people then left handed. And theres more heterosexual then homosexual people. either way, your born with it.

You people need to grow up. What has people being gay directly affected you? i can tell you right now. NOTHING. and it's people who think that creates pain and suffering for gays. we're scared to come out and express who we really are because we're afraid of you guys! we're living a lie.

if you haven't figured out yet....i'm gay. and i have to live a lie with my friends and family because i'm afraid to tell them the truth. i live in pain every day. i've tried to kill myself because of it. if people could be more open with it...oh gosh. it would do wonders to the world.

^ you said MOST of it.... being gay is fine, i'm sure.
But, you really should tell them. its not good to keep a lie for too long, cause soon you'll get caught up in it yourself and wont live your life like you should. if you also lie too long, and eventually tell them, then they wont trust you as much. Advise: you should tell them.
Do what your heart says.

Originally posted by mister sno
Being gay is as natural as being left handed. It's a proven fact! look it up. It's not a choice or a lifestyle. it's in our genes that we were BORN WITH. you might not relise your gay until your about 13 (around puberty) thats when i found out. not all genes kick in right when your born. like most diseases, like i'm also type 1 diabetic (not some fat lard on a couch. i was born with it..i'm actually rather skinny) but i didn't get it until i was 13 and a half.

I'm going back to the left hand thing. it's actually a very good example. Being left handed is in your genes also. Sure, theres more right handed people then left handed. And theres more heterosexual then homosexual people. either way, your born with it.


Scientists previously believed handedness runs in families, but recent studies seem to run counter to what is increasingly looked upon as little more than unfounded lore.

There are notable differences between the physiology of a heterosexual male and a homosexual male, but conclusive proof of a definite genetic component of sexual orientation is currently still absent.

Originally posted by Storm
There are notable differences between the physiology of a heterosexual male and a homosexual male, but conclusive proof of a definite genetic component of sexual orientation is currently still absent.

I'd like to know what those differences are and who published the studies you are using.

Alliance I saw a special on Logo.

This certain study was done on the brains of two sheep. One homosexual, one heterosexual,

Some part of the Cerebrum was TOTALLY different in both sheep, and the scientist said that although she is unsure what caused this condition, the effects were FIXED...

The homosexual sheep had a part of its brain developed WAY differently than that of all the striaght sheep.

She then stated that to Claim that being gay is a choice is a completely invalid and uneducated argument.

I was just curious, a lot of the "science" on this is unpublished baised studies.

Science needs to tread carfully here. I don't think Logo would have an unbiased opinon. 😐

It's possible, but then again Alliance what other network do you think would broadcast ANY study on homosexuals ?

It doesnt have to be network, I wonder what the lit has to say on this. Scienctific journals aren't on TV for a reason.

And besides, homosexuality has been in the mass media before. Kinsey's study on male sexuality caused quite a public discussion (manifesting itself in an American masculinity crisis)

Love Thy Neighbour... no matter what.

Accept them for who they are.

Originally posted by Because I can
Love Thy Neighbour... no matter what.

Accept them for who they are.

Exactly... 😎

How do you know? Have you been in front of every movie theater across the nation of the opening day of any of those films? Do you know the family discussions that go on in peoples homes about those films? You dont have to protest to be against a movie.

I didn't completely ignore your statement. I actually devoted a whole paragraph to it. But allow me to explain it again.

I had my KMC account blocked for about a year and half. During that time I stopped watching alot of movies together because I realized some of the movies I was watching weren't good for me spiritually and in most cases made my hypocritical. "FvJ" and most of the other movies on my list where among the kind of movies I stopped watching. I told you I didn't even remember those movies where on my list until you brought it up just now.


Okay, you watch... Lost, don't you? Isn't that a little too immoral also?
Hurley's gluttony, Jack and Locke's greed, Anna's wrath, Sawyer's pride.
Not to mention the fact that Sun was going to leave her husband. Or that Claire had premarital sex and got pregnant.

Sin, sin, sin, sin. How can you watch that?

I dont watch LOST anymore. A few months ago I stopped watching. I did, however tune into the season finale on ABC.COM. Exactly thats the whole reason I stopped watching. In fact I stopped watching television all-together. I dont even own television hook-ups anymore.

Quit trying to bring out skeletons in my closet. Im not a hypocrite. And your not going to make me out to be.

Originally posted by Punker69
I dont watch LOST anymore. A few months ago I stopped watching. I did, however tune into the season finale on ABC.COM. Exactly thats the whole reason I stopped watching. In fact I stopped watching television all-together. I dont even own television hook-ups anymore.

Quit trying to bring out skeletons in my closet. Im not a hypocrite. And your not going to make me out to be.


Skeletons out of your closet? Unless you don't watch any movie at all or any TV show, my argument still stands. In fact if you believe the bible to be god's true word then you are a hypocrite as well.

But yeah of course, you never read anything, hear anything, watch anything other than the bible.

Lost isn't amoral though. In fact, it's just the opposite. These strangers all have flaws and are forced to over come them and work to gether in order to survive. I have even heard that the iland is supposed to represent purgatory, and all the characters are struggling to redeem themselves from past sins.