Savage Hulk vs. Classic Juggernaut vs. Gladiator vs. Hercules

Originally posted by crucifixio
I always read that Hulks strength...came from an extra-dimensional source....which had a seemingly limitless amount of energy or "strength" to supply him with. Even with that being said though their is n way he could EVER beat Juggs physically unless his powerset somehow changed after this Planet Hulk saga

It wouldn't matter in this fight, Gladiator Throws the moon at earth and its "no more continues remain" for Hulk, and Hercules, Juggernaut just floats in space until he decides what to do.

shouldn't Juggs have more exotic powers than just being unstoppable and really strong....for some1 who is an avatar of a god ...he is pretty one-dimensional

Originally posted by crucifixio
shouldn't Juggs have more exotic powers than just being unstoppable and really strong....for some1 who is an avatar of a god ...he is pretty one-dimensional

He uses only a fraction of the gems total power, it is unknown what he could really do if he devoted himself to discovering its true power.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I agree with this but however some of these things could happen, Wolverine (as much as i hate to go here) has proven he can take punishment from class 100's, hanging with the Hulk is not that far out of reach considering his agility is Superior to Hulks. Rhino is class 80-85, with very high durability, getting a KO on the Hulk isn't that far out of reach either, should it happen all the time, NO, but could it happen 1-2/10, yes. Doc Oct, had his adamantium arms, hitting with class 20 force multiple times every few seconds, should Oct beat Hulk everytime, NO, but could it happen 1-2/10, of course.

Not all of it is PIS, some of the people hulk has fought have powersets very much capable of KO a non-enraged to a moderately en-raged Hulk. Now if he was FULLY enraged, IE Onslaught saga, then I would have to throw up the PIS flag real quick, but thats not the case in these fights, or most fights Hulk is in.

But as for the fight, Gladiator wins this fight EAAAAAASSSSYYYYY, the guy travels at light speed and sends everybody into orbit, or just tosses the moon at earth, or mars, or venus, or he flings all three of them into the sun before the fight even begins.

The only one I see him having trouble with is Juggernaut, as Glads powerset offers nothing to actually harm him, let alone kill/ko him.

He would probably just keep knocking him into orbit everytime he came back.

Now I didn't say all losses the Hulk had were PIS, and I never have.

Doc Ock shouldn't be able to get any wins in against the Hulk simply because of his Human Durability. 1 Clap and he's down, and if he tries to grab Hulk to stop that well he's now essentally the ball on a chain with Hulk as the Absorbing Man 🙂

Rhino is 80-85 against a Base Mid-Tier Class 100 Hulk. If it was that simple Thing would have beaten Hulk more than once in Hard Knocks where Hulk was explicitly weakened (I've heard, I've never seen scans of the fight and it's hard to find them). Doc Sampson can't even KO the Hulk that easy and he's a fellow Gamma Mutant with the capability to be stronger than a Base-Line Hulk if he grows his hair out.

Wolvie hanging with Regular Class 100's are okay, because no all of them have teh Healing Factor that Hulk does, but that is why Wolvie should never get a win in on Hulk. Long Distance Toss, Sonic Clap.

And as I've said before in this thread, Glads takes this without any trouble. Because if necessary he can knock Juggs into a Black Hole/Worm Hole if necessary and have the Ringout Stick.

Hulk vs Juggs I will leave to another thread, but my stance has been shown on multiple occasions (Hulk Smash PHysics, Juggs is Ringouted. No BFR? Stalemate until Hulk's punches begin to affect the Magic of the Juggernaut directly) And if you want to argue Juggs vs Hulk anymore I suggest it be taken to an already established thread on the matter.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Nothing. Did I ever say he could? They are going to stalemate in a straight fight, unless Juggernaut plays smart. You know, making him to calm down. But he better not screw up, because the Hulk isn't really THAT dumb.

I know that Juggernaut wouldn't have drowned. Professor didn't, because he figured he was just your average superhuman fighter, not the Juggernaut himself.

Okay, my bad. I believe I misunderstood your points with a lack of knowledge on the two, especially Juggernaut. My apologies.

I still believe, however, that even an enraged Hulk can be put down by Juggernaut. Constant pounding has the potential to put him down. Especially if Juggy, too, is enraged. Whenever that happens, someone gets their ass kicked.

Originally posted by crucifixio
shouldn't Juggs have more exotic powers than just being unstoppable and really strong....for some1 who is an avatar of a god ...he is pretty one-dimensional

Well, he's the avatar of (basically) the God of strength/durability. There are other Celestial Gods that are bretheren to Cyttorak, but he just happens to exhibit that power.

Plus, it has been shown before that Juggy discovered some other powers he has, including being able to actually cast out magic spells in the form of some sort of magic beam. I don't know the comic off-hand, but I've seen the scans before.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Okay, my bad. I believe I misunderstood your points with a lack of knowledge on the two, especially Juggernaut. My apologies.

I still believe, however, that even an enraged Hulk can be put down by Juggernaut. Constant pounding has the potential to put him down. Especially if Juggy, too, is enraged. Whenever that happens, someone gets their ass kicked.

Can we move Hulk vs Juggs to another thread? There are points that you aren't taking into effect on Hulk's side.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I still believe, however, that even an enraged Hulk can be put down by Juggernaut. Constant pounding has the potential to put him down. Especially if Juggy, too, is enraged. Whenever that happens, someone gets their ass kicked.

I doubt it. An enraged Hulk isn't just going to stand there. He's going to be fighting like crazy. And the Hulk has taken "punishment" from characters stronger than Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I still believe, however, that even an enraged Hulk can be put down by Juggernaut. Constant pounding has the potential to put him down. Especially if Juggy, too, is enraged. Whenever that happens, someone gets their ass kicked.

I doubt it. An enraged Hulk isn't just going to stand there. He's going to be fighting like crazy. And the Hulk has taken "punishment" from characters stronger than Juggernaut. Not necessarily physical characters, but still.

I just bumped the most recent Hulk vs Juggs thread for this argument to take place in so we can stop hyjacking this one. Diabloman made it but eh, he's gone and the thread remains.

You did what? Mate, you just plunged us into a new age of digital darkness. May the proverbial heavens be with us.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
You did what? Mate, you just plunged us into a new age of digital darkness. May the proverbial heavens be with us.

Well it seems that thread was closed, and the big one you are worried about I couldn't find in the search.

Originally posted by Dalak
I just bumped the most recent Hulk vs Juggs thread for this argument to take place in so we can stop hyjacking this one. Diabloman made it but eh, he's gone and the thread remains.

You did? I don't see it anywhere. I could always go bump the legendary Juggernaut vs. Hulk thread.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You did? I don't see it anywhere. I could always go bump the legendary Juggernaut vs. Hulk thread.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You did? I don't see it anywhere. I could always go bump the legendary Juggernaut vs. Hulk thread.

That's what I was told to do, so if we are to continue this debate it must be done. I couldn't find it in the Search though.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I dunno, I don't think Apolloknight would like that too much. It's pretty epic really.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I dunno, I don't think Apolloknight would like that too much. It's pretty epic really.

That's what I've heard, but that's what I was told by a Mod when they closed the thread by diabloman.

just for the record, gladiator would win this fight quickly by bfr. the other characters on the other hand, hulk and juggs mainly, would fight for a long time.

but for all intents and purposes of this thread, they don't matter once they are bfred.

The last 2 would be Gladiator and Juggernaut.....Problem is Juggernaut can't fly.But Gladiator will help him with that by tossing him into outer space.

Originally posted by crucifixio
shouldn't Juggs have more exotic powers than just being unstoppable and really strong....for some1 who is an avatar of a god ...he is pretty one-dimensional

But yeah don't count out Juggs in this match just because you think you have a handle on them.