I have that issue as well... and scarlet spider GOT LUCKY with his impact webbing... using it to seperate venom from his host after shooting it down venom's mouth... that's not going to happen here... hell even ben admitted he got a lucky shot in with it.. the next time they fought, his tricks didn't work... all that happened was venom grabbed his ankle and used him as a human baseball bat all along the roof of a building...
before ben got lucky with that shot he was losing badly... nearly submitted to being choked out by his own sweater....lol...
and when he did win, it was also with the assistance of the fact that brock has a slightly above human level durability under the symbiote... TBK however does not suffer the same weakness....
Originally posted by K Von Doom
Does spider-sense work around/against the symbiotes?
Originally posted by Dizzle
It definitely isn't affected by being near them... Don't really know if it warns of one of them creeping up his leg with the intent to devour his brain though. (sorry, just wanted to use the "sneaking up his leg and devouring his brain" thing. Not saying I think it's really feasible...)
Originally posted by jinzin
to venom or any of his offspring?nu
uh...
sorry to disappoint you... but it's only Spider-Man's spider sense that doesn't work against Venom and Carnage.... Scarlet Spider's works just fine
as proved in this story where Scarlet beats Venom
Originally posted by jinzin
(why are you arguing spider sense again? why would that be working anyway?I mean, symbiotes can adapt to it and overcome even if it WAS working for some reason here... venom did it to spiderman, his children did it to spiderman, carnage did it to venom etc etc)
the only reason that Venom could adapt to Pete's spider sense was because they had been bonded .... all his offspring share his genetic memory so they can block it too.... Venom was never bonded to Reilly.... who is slightly different from Pete.... genetically speaking
Scarlet's SS has been proven to work just fine against venom
Originally posted by jinzin
as for your boy.. it would seem that general grevious, though agile, is no spiderman in terms of agility
go watch clone wars again, Grievous was performing huge leaps, incredibly fast movements and was even capable of fighting Jedi Masters while standing on his hands and holding his Lightsaber(s) in his feet.... He's Spidey's equal in agility
Originally posted by jinzin
as for your blasts.. they ARE short bursts are they not?
short bursts in rapid fire.... and their power source is in no danger of running out
Originally posted by jinzin
I mean, I've already laid down how venom can straight up DEAL with continuous blasts, radiation, pure light, fire, and sound being poured on him...
the symbiote always suffers though.... in fact in the examples where he does barely manage to survive sound blasts and whatnot, his symbiote is only ever partially covering him... a couple of plasma hits to vaporise the symbiote leaves you exposed and unprotected
Originally posted by jinzin
photgraphic reflexes fast enough to literally catch bullets and an energy shield
Spider-Man can catch bullets too (see recent issues).... and your energy shield is a very small circular shape that can only protect a very small portion of you at a time
Originally posted by jinzin
as far as your lightsabers go.... spinning them around would almost be impressive if it weren't for obi-wan having totally disarmed grevious in about 12 seconds with a discernible amount of ease... using TM's use of Swordsman's skills and his photographic reflexes to pick up on your patterns.. it wouldn't be all that hard at all to match you...
Obi Wan fought a post Clone Wars Grievous who was carrying an injury and had no SS... you're not SC has all of Grievous's training and skill + danger sense and kickass armour..... if you even came close to performing a stroke that could damage his wrists he'd have more than enough time to move that arm.... or thrust through you with another
Originally posted by jinzin
how you ask? quite simply really... use my energy sheilds to close the distance.. tendril around you like crazy to keep some of your arms busy while I chop off appendages with my energy claws, katana, or adamantium claws.. take a lightsaber as the rest of your arm falls to the ground.
your energy weapons are useless against my armour, Your Katana is also severely impaired by the bulletproof aspects of the armour to the point where it will slow down to such a degree as to be ineffective against my droid body...Claws... well, to use them you have to get very close... and that just gives me more advantages
Originally posted by jinzin
unfortunately, even with 4 arms and some lightsabers, you simply don't have an advantage with appendages.. with my tendrils
your tendrils which are very easy to slice off considering my SS gives me plenty of warning for my superfast limbs to react
Originally posted by jinzin
you have less efficiency with you precog here, where as I don't...
My pre-cog works just fine.... whereas yours is... well.... nonexistent Venom's "moc spider sense" is just his ability to see in various directions at once..... it doesn't give him any advance warning
Originally posted by jinzin
my last two opponents knew their best shot at taking THE BIG KAHUNA down was by doing it from a distance, using methods that kept TBK away from them in h2h situations while in turn attacking him.... where they actually had the tools to attempt such a maneuver, you simply do no....
hell.... if you stay at a distance my plasma blasts will take care of you easily enough.... i just have more options up close in this case.... plus your shield.... when i hit it with Impact Webbing it'll just wrap around it and then travel up your arm... continual hits will incase Venom just like it did the other time he fought Scarlet Spider (in that comic i posted)
FYI, Impact Webbing took Venom out for a good couple of minutes leaving him helpless.... when that happens here i'll just follow it up with a Lightsaber assault
Originally posted by jinzin
scoobs seems to think that fever will be able to simply dodge the tendrils... ummm no.... he can't "dodge" the tendrils... he can try.. but it will fail.. again.. spiderman using a more agile body than grevious can't "dodge the tendrils" what chance have you scoob? your only option is to run away...
Spider-man had a useless SS... i don't... plus CW Grievous is just as agile as Spidey has ever been
Originally posted by jinzin
we have an entire amusment park full of assorted things to throw at you... check out marvel knights spiderman 11.. venom brings down nearly a city block with ease by sprouting out tendrils in 100 different directions and pulling
and Spidey has time to knock him around and catch all the debris with webbing to save a bunch of people.... with the same speed, and no reason to try to save anyone, as soon as you attempt that you'll be sporting several new holes through your suit and body
Originally posted by jinzin
and if we get in close of course.. one adamantium packin super powered punch oughta take care of fever period..... maybe two... 😉
you wont be punching anyone from inside an impact webbing cocoon... or once the flesh has been melted/cut from your bones
Originally posted by grey fox
Hmmmmm , i'm voting for jinzin no amount of lightsabers are gonna save grevious's ass this time.
dammit... at least wait for a couple of responses before voting.... and BTW...Lightsabers and plasma blasts will go through Venom, Taskmaster or Sabretooth pretty damn easily
unlike Khell and Piggy, it looks like Jin and myself are going to be on at different times.... so not as much back and forth arguing to be had
to get a fuller idea of the match, wait a couple of days before voting so you can read the counters and new attack plans from both of us (this should go for all the matches)
Originally posted by Spawnrules
hey who is a good opponent for me
a chimp?
Originally posted by Scoobless
sorry to disappoint you... but it's only Spider-Man's spider sense that doesn't work against Venom and Carnage.... Scarlet Spider's works just fineas proved in this story where Scarlet beats Venom
as proved? how? scarlet was losing that entire fight after he got gutted by venom.... he won by luck... then admitted to winning by luck.. then "proved" it the next time they fought.. and venom flung him around like a damned rag doll...
Originally posted by Scoobless
the only reason that Venom could adapt to Pete's spider sense was because they had been bonded .... all his offspring share his genetic memory so they can block it too.... Venom was never bonded to Reilly.... who is slightly different from Pete.... genetically speakingScarlet's SS has been proven to work just fine against venom
like when he was gutted by venom? no.. how about when venom nearly killed him by stragling him with his own sweater? no... oh I know.. how about when venom grabbed him and smacked him up and down an apartment building like a crash dummy?...pffffft 🙄