Are Muscle and Strenght The Same?

im an absolute beanpole, but i can perform pretty damn well in armwrestling against people twice my size, often winning.

it's just ability to control the muscle aswell as how much is there i guess

Can i bring will-power into this ?

Its useless having a muscle mass if the host isnt determined to put it to its maximum capacity. Up to a certain extent muscle is strenght but without brain-power to back it up, its not as effective.

Willpower, spirit, adrenaline, etc, all play into strength, inner that transfers into outer...

Originally posted by Df02
im an absolute beanpole, but i can perform pretty damn well in armwrestling against people twice my size, often winning.

it's just ability to control the muscle aswell as how much is there i guess

Its also lever length from joints etc 🙂

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Willpower, spirit, adrenaline, etc, all play into strength, inner that transfers into outer...

Nowhere near as important as bio mechanics and body composition/chemistry although they do play a role with similarly matched individuals.

strength has a wider context as a word....it can be used to describe emotions or structural integrity and that sort of stuff

Its not as important for a consistent, regular use of strength, but in life or death situations a person has had the will and adrenaline to do INCREDIBLE feats, that all the training and genetics in the world would allow.

Lifting cars, backs of buses for seconds, etc.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Its not as important for a consistent, regular use of strength, but in life or death situations a person has had the will and adrenaline to do INCREDIBLE feats, that all the training and genetics in the world would allow.

Lifting cars, backs of buses for seconds, etc.

Can you show me properly documented examples of these 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Julie
strength has a wider context as a word....it can be used to describe emotions or structural integrity and that sort of stuff

Yes Julie the semantic meaning of strength has been mentioned in this thread. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr _Whirlysplat
Can you show me properly documented examples of these 😖hifty:

I cannot remeber this guys name something Angel.....guy is carazy🙂 at 165 lbs picked up the front end of a v8 taxito full extension of his legs and half pushed over a full grown palm tree in vegas......nuts

Originally posted by soleran30
I cannot remeber this guys name something Angel.....guy is carazy🙂 at 165 lbs picked up the front end of a v8 taxito full extension of his legs and half pushed over a full grown palm tree in vegas......nuts

can you show me documentation, its just with all of these situations, I have yet to see one that has not got another explanation.

muscle size doesn't equate to muscle strength...at the gym i go to there are lots of guys with far bigger muscles than me with far better definition (although i carry alot of body fat compared to them) but i lift far in excess of what most of them do

one of the main reasons are many of them are on steroids which build muscle size but dont increase density and so strength isn't proportional

personally i'd rather have the strength than the appearance of strength

Originally posted by jaden101
muscle size doesn't equate to muscle strength...at the gym i go to there are lots of guys with far bigger muscles than me with far better definition (although i carry alot of body fat compared to them) but i lift far in excess of what most of them do

one of the main reasons are many of them are on steroids which build muscle size but dont increase density and so strength isn't proportional

personally i'd rather have the strength than the appearance of strength

Also remember lifing for definition and all they might just be on a different cycle of their training regimine......big ripped guys aren't always going in there to lift their max........there are a TON of ways to fatigue your muscles and get growth other then lifting as heavy as you can.

Originally posted by jaden101
muscle size doesn't equate to muscle strength...at the gym i go to there are lots of guys with far bigger muscles than me with far better definition (although i carry alot of body fat compared to them) but i lift far in excess of what most of them do

one of the main reasons are many of them are on steroids which build muscle size but dont increase density and so strength isn't proportional

personally i'd rather have the strength than the appearance of strength

HMMMM....... SOME PROBLEMS WITH THIS THEIR IS............

If the big ripped guy is training properly eating five meals a day....having his supplements, dianabol, deca, sustanon, oxybolin etc.......

Its about body composition you may be fat but you carry muscle, your proportion of fast to slow twitch muscle may be high etc. Bodybuilding is about illusion also a big ripped guy may not really be that big his proportion may just make it look like he is. Powerlifters are rarely that ripped although use of human growth hormone has altered that a little, lever length also comes into it. As does length of muscle canals etc, etc, etc. But generally if the frame has the same dimensions length of levers etc the higher level of power "fast twitch" fibres does indeed lead to increased strength.

What do you call big.. or heavy weights I bench 165 Kg for 4 reps 🙂

Reps means more flexibility, power, and speed. And rippedness.

High lifting is more for brute strength and size.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Reps means more flexibility, power, and speed. And rippedness.

High lifting is more for brute strength and size.

I can do 120 Kg for 12 - 16 reps easily even now and I'm not training much🙂

I get back in shape fast, my bodyfat plummets quickly, though it is getting quite off topic.

12 reps isn't what I mean, when I say REPS.

I'm talking about 300-400 on a target area.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I get back in shape fast, my bodyfat plummets quickly, though it is getting quite off topic.

12 reps isn't what I mean, when I say REPS.

I'm talking about 300-400 on a target area.

lactic acid build up, it leads to muscle atrophy as it is being broken down beyond its ability to repair in the short term. No athlete uses that many reps.

No weights... Yes I know that overworking your muscles shrinks them, it took me quite some time to perfect my routine.

You've seen my pics, I'm a lightweight but very defined...

Routine takes about an hour, which afterwards I do some running.

depends on muscle fibres, muscle density, direction of muscle fibres , muscle structure, tendon density and amount, ligements, bone thickness and length, type of use the muscles are being put through, endurance{stamina meanin hymoglobin and red blood cell count, amount of blood vessels in the muscle and efficiancy of cardiovascular system} mental control and endurance to pain which inludes direct mental control over pain and tiredness, bein PUMPED up and thinkin anythin is possible for u, havin a high adrenaline level. and well LASTLY muscle size matter too in physical strength but the above factors play a greater part.